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Re: 工人!!!!!!!!!!!

icecrm,

好同意mycathy的message呀! charmaine 仲細, 同新工人接觸, 佢會係好害怕同唔適應. 要比d 時間相處的.

係啦, 唔好太worrry 啦, take it　easy!!!

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Icecrm
poor you :-( But it really take some times for Charmaine to "adopt" with the new maid. Let's give her some time la~ Wish you everything to be smooth so

妹妹1歲la~

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發表於 05-7-12 15:07 |只看該作者

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Dear Pizza, Holmanma & Cathay,

ai.......... :cry: 眼淚...在心裡流~~~~~~

From my 12 days observations... I realised many things, and Cathy, you bingo!<--- as you mentioned 佢真係唔鐘意小朋友.. I think you are right... I don't know why she could be a teacher for years in Philippines... she still doesn't willing to speak to my Charmaine and us!!!!!! she is very 高姿態 everyday to us... I don't feel she works like a maid here at all! This is from her attitude.... Pls refer to what I have expressed in other forum:

she is university graduated, 5 years teacher experience and first time to work overseas.

It was myself so 一廂情願 (仲以為自己執到寶... 哎~) believed that a well-educated maid can provide good English environment for my kid, but the fact made me very disappointed because she doesn't like to speak to my kid and everyone of us here. I very much agree with wskwok, seems that she looks down at the Hong Kong people cannot really speak very fluent English as she can. On the 2nd day she worked for me, she already asks me if everybody can speak English as I do, I answered her, ' for my generation, most of us can speak English, but may not be very fluent as native. For my mum's generation, they can understand simple English but they may not be able t express themselves in Eng. If you would like to make life easier in HK, I think you should earn some simple Cantonese, at least some food items and simple commands because the sellers in wet market, they don't really speak good Eng and they may not understand you.' Her response to my answer was quite odd at that moment.

These few days, I observes her very closely. I found that her attitude was not very good too.. and 我覺得佢無心機同我個女玩.... Becos I taught her how to communicate with my daughter with Disney's World of English (DWE), I think it's easier for her to handle my daughter if she read the books with my daughter or sing her songs because my daughter loves everything of DWE very much.... but what I have observed was she only took out the books for her, then she just sit on the sofa and let my daughter to hold the book, not reading with her or saying anything to her at all. In my mind, if somebody love children and want to get close to the kid, she has to 投其所好, right??

Anyway, I have issued the one way air-ticket and will send her back home tomorrow morning. I have expected she will definitely ask me 'WHY?'<-- she always asked me WHY when I ask her to do something!!! Becos she always thinks she is 'no problem' and always 高姿態.

It is my bad luck and 有眼無珠請著佢... for here only 12 days (but she did amost nothing within these days) that I will pay her everything ACCORDING TO LABOUR ORDINANCE (我好唔憤氣要pay her 1-month wage in lieu of notice, but I will pay).

其實我炒佢損失好慘重, 但我覺得係佢個人睇唔起人, brief過佢幾次都唔聽..... 俾時間佢都唔會好架喇... 都係送佢返歸喇!:
DIRECT- HIRE agency fee: $2000.-
13 working days salary: $1371.-
Levy tax for Govt: $ 2400.-
1-month wage in lieu of notice: $3270.-
HKG-MNL air-ticket: $1279.-

佢黎混吉13日... 我就唔見左成$10,320- 好好好好好肉赤呀!!!!!!!!

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發表於 05-7-12 15:28 |只看該作者

Re: 工人!!!!!!!!!!!

Icecrm,
The $2400 gov't levy is transferrable ga~ It can be transferred to another maid that you will employed. I realise what you are thinking as I also paid my first maid ($11xxx) for only 8 days (agency fee $3800, medical check $600, air-tickets, etc. :-()

妹妹1歲la~

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發表於 05-7-12 15:38 |只看該作者

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Holmanma,

But I am afraid my 2400 levy will 'go to the ocean'! Becos I may keep my current Indonesian maid, at least she loves Charmaine very much... for other performance, I will be blinded if she can handle charmaine well la...

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發表於 05-7-12 15:41 |只看該作者

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Icecrm,
Did you ask the immigration dept whether such $2400 can be kept and transferred to your existing maid (after the existing $2400 is expired). Although it helps a little but better than nothing la~

妹妹1歲la~

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發表於 05-7-12 15:44 |只看該作者

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Holmanma,

Good suggestion! I never think of this.... let me ask... Thank you!!

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發表於 05-7-12 15:50 |只看該作者

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Icecrm,
Good luck

妹妹1歲la~

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發表於 05-7-12 15:57 |只看該作者

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poor icecrm~! 我真係好難想像有人會唔仲意小朋友(可能我自己太仲意小朋友)

不過我有少少多事, 我覺得妳用返之前既工人會唔會無咁好, 佢會唔會覺得妳結果都係無左佢唔得, 而變得更加差呢。

其實長遠來講會唔會慢慢再搵下, 托人介紹下, 搵返個好d既。或者請個係香港做過既, 可以面對面in既, 帶埋charmaine一齊去見。我相信係有好工人既。亦相信妳始終會有GOOD LUCK搵到好工人。(我都衰左兩個工人先搵到個好既。 :-P )

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發表於 05-7-12 17:22 |只看該作者

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Hi, Icecrm

Long time no chat!! Poor us!!!! We really suffered a lot from our maids. I also agreed with Cathy, your current maid would no longer under your control if you ask her to come back. I would rather hire a new one and well educate her.

You know my maid also caused an accident couple weeks ago. She locked our door accidently when she thrown away the rubbish, but she was such stupid to keep the fire on and put oil on the frying pan, finally the mgt. office had no choice but to call Fire Dept. and broke my door.

I have to spend few thousand to repair them. But luckily she didn't fire my house.

Apart from this incident, her performance is good and Tsz Chuen also loves to play with her and follow her. So I just give her a warning and punish her for no holidays in the first 7 months. Hope she could keep up her good work la. Good luck to you.

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發表於 05-7-12 18:00 |只看該作者

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mycathy 寫道:
我覺得妳用返之前既工人會唔會無咁好, 佢會唔會覺得妳結果都係無左佢唔得, 而變得更加差呢。

Cathy,

Your concern is also of one of my worry. But as my old Indonesian maid knew that she had to leave my home, she was very upset and treated Charmaine very well, she told me 佢由bb手抱湊大charmane.. 佢話佢當Charmaine係佢個女咁錫佢.... 我從來都好肯定佢真係好錫charmaine既... 我想換工人係因為佢有d蠢, 早排成日搏嘴同埋想(奢望)請個有學識既工人教女唶~ 但係我真係怕怕~~~ 同埋我今年唔可以再take leave to coach any new maid.. or else I will be fired soon!!! ( I have taken leave since 28th June until now..)

So, in my mind, I have no choice to use my old Indonesian maid... But I will brief her very seriously tmr after my bun bun gas gone and I will show to my Indonesian maid that if I don't like the maid, i can kick her back right a way.

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發表於 05-7-12 23:09 |只看該作者

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ICECRM,

OH....件事進展到如此.... :-( :-(

你用噃OLD MAID....記得佢係知道你將會唔要佢, E 家你因為咁而請噃佢, 佢會唔會有 D 唔開心同懷恨在心呀? 你真係要諗清楚呀! 可能我言重左D, 不過你真係三思呀!

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發表於 05-7-13 09:31 |只看該作者

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icecrm,
最緊要係妳工人錫charmaine, 但如果妳真係忍唔到佢駁咀既態度就唔好忍佢, 激得多唔靚女架。同埋佢好似都就來約滿喎, 咁要再續約嗎?

我摛晚同紫鈺睇返以前d video竟然有d掛住我第二個工人(思鄉自己辭職既), 佢真係好錫紫鈺同揍得佢好好

亦係佢令紫鈺由5安奶變到7安奶既。

依家哩個都好錫紫鈺, 成日同佢扮靚, 教佢野, 但係就照顧方面, 食野果part不夠用心囉~!

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發表於 05-7-13 09:47 |只看該作者

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mycathy & icecrm,

我成同自己講工人真係好難十全十美, 如果係佢都唔會做工人啦! 只要佢錫梓銓搞好屋企就算. 希望大家都 Good Luck!!

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發表於 05-7-13 14:26 |只看該作者

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icecrm
近日好忙,一上來睇先知原來你個新工人嚟咗十幾日仲走咗....
好風回路轉呀....
你個old maid 是否已答應反來幫你呀?
希望工人事件可以快快解決

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發表於 05-7-13 14:45 |只看該作者

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艾菲,
好同意呀~! 只要錫紫鈺,屋企企企理理就得啦∼！

艾菲寫道:
mycathy & icecrm,

我成同自己講工人真係好難十全十美, 如果係佢都唔會做工人啦! 只要佢錫梓銓搞好屋企就算. 希望大家都 Good Luck!!

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發表於 05-7-13 15:23 |只看該作者

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Cathy, Ivy and Ziggy,

Thank you for all your support! :-P I am now very happy because I have kicked her out by this early morning at 8am. 我覺得我無炒錯佢... 因為佢晌philippines都唔係窮, 所以佢d態度唔係好志在... 同埋佢覺得又要湊我個女, 又要做家務好辛苦... (我都唔駛佢煮飯買送啦~) 佢分明就係簡僱主啦.... 見過我auntie屋企個工人淨係清潔同煮飯, 日頭個個返晒工, 佢未覺得好正囉~~~ But she is a very clever person..... I can say 佢個腦轉得好快囉...
1. 我一話要dismiss佢, 叫佢簽收返d文件... 佢就話要打電話....

2. 我俾機票佢,佢第一句就話唔走, 要find a new employer, 問我張機票valid幾耐...

3. 話要囉左張正式身份證先, 我話你黎左十幾日, 邊有咁快得... 同埋我話係agent幫你囉, 叫佢問返agent.. 唔關我事...

第一次出國都咁醒....

About my current Indonesian maid, she is ok.. and today Charmaine is very happy since the bun bun has gone and only with my Indonesian maid... She still have 7 months to finish her first contract. I have to observe her performance of these 7 months to decide if I will renew her contract or not.

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發表於 05-7-13 15:46 |只看該作者

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Icecrm,
For both my 1st and 2nd maid, both agencies issued the air-tickets for that night (immediately) and asked her to change the flight number by herself if she wanted. I think your maid has 收風 before she came to HK. My 2nd maid also request to phone to her relatives before signing the termination agreement. I refused her to do so until she signed. The 2nd maid even 同我玩野, 同我地講話唔想揍b, 自己話唔做, 同agency 講話我地抄佢

我就特登同agent 講我想佢留低ga (in fact, I wanted to fire her and I knew that she wanted to leave also, she think揍b very 辛苦). At last, I asked her to sign the termination letter and save one month salary

妹妹1歲la~

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發表於 05-7-13 16:03 |只看該作者

Re: 工人!!!!!!!!!!!

真係好多工人揀工做，我之前都有一樣擔心，就係我個工人揍開老人家唔知會唔會唔鐘意細路，好彩佢係好鐘意小朋友，仲成日同我媽咪講叫我生多個，我表弟個ｂ幾日大來我屋企，佢又流晒口水，幫手揍得好好。不過有樣唔同就係有我媽咪係度幫。

Icecrm,
希望妳舊工人睇在Charmaine份上，生生性性好好做啦∼！ｇｏｏｄ　ｌｕｃｋ∼！

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