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複式洋房

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21#
發表於 11-7-27 22:26 |只看該作者

回覆:sophielau 的帖子

同意有試用期,我地去打人工,都有試用期,表現好才可以簽約,表現唔好,都被人炒啦!表現唔好,仲要比機票佢,即係請佢黎香港玩,玩完仲有專機送反屋企!



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rainbowsend  agree!  發表於 11-8-18 18:35
Cammy3007  agree  發表於 11-7-28 14:08


別墅

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22#
發表於 11-7-27 22:49 |只看該作者

回覆:HC603 的帖子

我做十年係同一公司都無21日假, 而我地嘅年假係為咗佢地而放.
我上個工人用拖鞋打我d細路, 我可以點??我個細路比度門夾到爆指甲, 又唔出聲, 問先知兩個細路打交無人理, 這是否疏忽照顧?法例有無保障我們?斷手斷腳都係因為我嘅小朋友曳.
每天在公司就擔心家裡的事.. 遲早精神病.



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熹曈媽咪  唉,真係鄧你激氣,不如試下裝cam,得閒打電話比d仔,好過下下問佢都I don't know  發表於 11-7-28 01:54


禁止訪問

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23#
發表於 11-7-27 23:44 |只看該作者
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大宅

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24#
發表於 11-7-27 23:56 |只看該作者
sophielau 發表於 11-7-27 22:04
要設試用期,試用期內不合用,唔該唔好要僱主出機票,因為好多係來玩,都唔係做野,我個6日賓就係啦,請佢等左3個 ...

1. They are always LIE to me.:;pppp:
2. Anything say `I DON'T KNOW'.
3. At least 2 mobile phone. 1 for SMS and 1 for internet use.
4. No sense.


複式洋房

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25#
發表於 11-7-28 00:56 |只看該作者
I had numerous bad experiences with foreign domestic helpers and agencies. The recent one was a Filipino terminated abt 3 months ago and the agency was Hundred Years in Mongkok. I strongly believed that they made use of local maid (which could not earn much commission) to do many dirty, terrible actions to get double pay (payment-in-lieu of notice) and agency fee. They totally sided on their clients, even brought children went downstairs to attend activity class complained that not only downstairs, needed few minutes which would make the maid feel tire. The maid's behaviour was very bad, made my home liked a war place everyday and said "you fire me la, you fire me la severely" Her attitude made me vomitted and worried. After she left, I found she stole all my new USBs which I bought from book fair at school. That helper worked at my home (5 months), all the consumption increases, water (increased 155%), electricity gas and electricity (more than 25%) + very very poor performance and behaviour. Often used Tangalo scolded my children and quarreled with them almost everydau. When my daughter took bath, she liked to switch off her light, took every chance to answer back severly (eg gave her note and brief her again to do jobs, cleaning, not do, gave her a note again to clean, shouting and asked why I wrote a note to ask her to do something. That RUBBISH AGENCY - Hundred Years still told me many good comments about that domestic helper. They said her ex-boss fried her after 2 months service because that woman (the employer was mad), When I complained to that agency, that woman still wanted to helper that Filipino to find another job.

Another agency Megsea? "Hoi Ying" in Mongkok gave unreal helper's information, took care of twins in Singapore and excellent in English, however, she knew nothing about Singapore, could not handle basic housework and not able to communicate in English, Cantonese and Mandarin. Just like a piece of wood and almost use hot milk to feed my son.

One Filipino was mentally disordered but still passed their exam in the Philipines and came to Hong Kong to work. Bachelor degree in Finance but forgot all the subjects she learned except English. She admitted that she did not work as domestic helper in Philipines, gave fault information in the application form. She left my son in public area, then left my 3-year old daughter at home. Could not manage very simple work, not able to operate my washing machine (just on and off, but she turned the temperature to 90 or sometime could not dry the clothes. The clothes was totally we and dipping water like a WATERFALL still hung in my bedroom. She often worn clothes inside out. My son complained him used both her hands to press the back of his neck. When I called him, he was still crying. Afterward, I gave her one-month termination notice, she might forgot and gave me a resignation afterward.

Sometimes, even I know the maid stole my things (One I bought things from supermarket, but she sent home or sold) at unreasonable time. When my daughter stayed in hospital, 6 people told me that my 1.5 daughter fell down from the adult bed (as she took care of my daughter in hospital in day time as I need to back to office to work) 2 times, she did not comfort my daughter and just put her back on the bed. Those people in the same room told me that this reflected the maid's personality (she treated my daughter good in front of me) and the worse was that she did not tell me so I did not know what would be the problems after fell down. However, I still could not terminate her immediately. As I need to find a replacement and take leave to train up a new helper. Moreover, it is very pity that for young children to change their caregiver very often. I employed a part-time local helper to take care of my daughter instead which caused me great economic burden. Finally I terminated her almost after 1 year until I got my leave. What's the choice for my case?


One maid worked abt 1 month, said she needed to back home as his son's ear was breeding and could not stop. I believed her and hired a temp helper which caused me great trouble and extra money. After she backed to HK and worked no more than 1 month, often showed very angry and one time lied on the bed for 3 days, cried and wanted to back home. My god. I am a working mother, nobody help me to take care of my children. Under those worse circumstances, one time I really worked very tired as nobody could help me, even I got fever, I also need to take care of my child.
Our government, those political parties (esp those help foreign domestic helpers to claim the right to be permanent HK residents.

One helper got phone calls and SMS almost every minuite, her mobile phone rang from mid-nights (2 am, 3 am, 4 am, 5 am until early morning 6 am, 7 am), used internet, her notenook when I was not at home though I told her could not keep any notebook, netbook and USB at my home. When I just called her name (I wanted her to stop, we were in a hurry to school), she even shouted to me, shown long faces everyday. After she left I found she stole many things. Her behaviour might be the result as she knew I need somebody to take care of my children, otherwise I cannot go to work.

Too many! I am a working mother, even not a reasonable helper, I must keep her at home until I can find a replacement.
Nobody can help me!

When some (poor) people asked government to provide them with ... or some politicians biased certain kinds of people because of vote, any political parties can help our class of people?

Can our weak government review those unfair employment terms to employers of foreign domestic helpers?


珍珠宮

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26#
發表於 11-7-28 01:04 |只看該作者
節目幾時出街?

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熹曈媽咪  18/8 (四), 時事追擊  發表於 11-7-28 01:36


複式洋房

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27#
發表於 11-7-28 01:06 |只看該作者
回覆 熹曈媽咪 的帖子

Can impose some requirements on agency or not?

e.g
1 verify the helper's information, check their ex-employment record
2 provide their renew contract rate which must be audited by audit firms.

Review the existing foreign domestic helpers' policy which totally protect them, but what's the protection for us, for our children?


大宅

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28#
發表於 11-7-28 01:41 |只看該作者
回覆 新手媽咪仔 的帖子

想請問你知唔知, 星架坡個邊, 係有咩條例比香港更好架?
我淨係知佢地簽2年約, 續約可以係之後1年/2年,
大肚係咪要即抄? 使唔使補錢? 使唔使比機票?

請問仲有咩條例架? 我想引用黎講下, 我真係乜都唔知........

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seatootoo  Check the "Topics" on this page  http://singaporemaid.blogspot.com/  發表於 11-7-28 01:56
喜樂的心,便是良藥;
優傷的靈,使骨乾枯. (箴 17:22)


男爵府

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29#
發表於 11-7-28 01:55 |只看該作者
they always say 'i don't no' everytime i asked :;pppp::;pppp::;pppp::;pppp::;pppp:
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別墅

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30#
發表於 11-7-28 08:16 |只看該作者
I found the information

Going by the law, these employers must notify the Manpower Ministry (MOM) if their maids become pregnant. Their work permits must be cancelled, and the maids sent home. Employers who fail to do this risk losing the $5,000 security deposit they parked with the ministry.

Under MOM regulations, those on work permits cannot become pregnant or give birth here unless they are married to Singapore citizens or permanent residents, with the Government’s permission.


from the link below
http://www.healthxchange.com.sg/ ... nt-home-a-year.aspx

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熹曈媽咪  好詳細, 好有用, 唔該晒!!  發表於 11-7-29 00:22


別墅

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31#
發表於 11-7-28 08:17 |只看該作者
I found the information

"Going by the law, these employers must notify the Manpower Ministry (MOM) if their maids become pregnant. Their work permits must be cancelled, and the maids sent home. Employers who fail to do this risk losing the $5,000 security deposit they parked with the ministry.

Under MOM regulations, those on work permits cannot become pregnant or give birth here unless they are married to Singapore citizens or permanent residents, with the Government’s permission."

from the link below
http://www.healthxchange.com.sg/ ... nt-home-a-year.aspx


別墅

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32#
發表於 11-7-28 08:18 |只看該作者
I found the information

"Going by the law, these employers must notify the Manpower Ministry (MOM) if their maids become pregnant. Their work permits must be cancelled, and the maids sent home. Employers who fail to do this risk losing the $5,000 security deposit they parked with the ministry.

Under MOM regulations, those on work permits cannot become pregnant or give birth here unless they are married to Singapore citizens or permanent residents, with the Government’s permission."

from the link below
http://www.healthxchange.com.sg/ ... nt-home-a-year.aspx


大宅

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33#
發表於 11-7-28 09:35 |只看該作者
樓主,因為我請工人經驗好少,只之前炒過一個,現在的則OK,故我無特別的情況可分亨給你.
但是,無論如何,多謝你為我地的僱主平反,如有播出時間,請亦告知我.

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熹曈媽咪  18/8 (四), 時事追擊, 節目會由多位僱主分享  發表於 11-7-29 00:24


侯爵府

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34#
發表於 11-7-28 09:46 |只看該作者
Support you!
Please voice out our concerns!

Is it better to summarize all the good points?


大宅

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35#
發表於 11-7-28 10:15 |只看該作者
support ~


大宅

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36#
發表於 11-7-28 10:23 |只看該作者
我覺得香港政府的責任最大:

1. 入境處批外傭visa, 點解要咁鬼耐, 可以等成2個月無工人用的話, 都唔駛請喇。因為批核期耐, 迫使好多僱主要在香港請斷約工人, 斷約的, 好極有限, 跟住再炒工人, 再請....., 不斷循環。

2. 明知d工人用各種方法去誣告僱主, 勞工處只係識勸僱主比錢和解, 不然就有排煩, 點解咁唔公平, 公理何在。

3. 點解d合約條款全保障d外傭, 無試用期, 佢地好多當旅遊咁, 做得唔happay就唔做, 我地等成2個月先有個人用, 佢地一個唔like, 劈砲唔撈兼失蹤, 仲要告僱主無比代通知金, 僱主要花時間上庭, 唔好彩仲要被屈賠錢, 要包機票及meal allowance比佢地返歸。

4. 唔明點解要比400元的外傭稅, 雖然而家豁免, 但若要再比, 僱主的負擔真係好重。 外傭人工係3740, 但僱主要包3餐, 要比地方佢地住, 佢地用水, 電, 媒, 唔會同你慳, 要包佢地保險, 養佢地每月要起碼5000, 若佢地真係比個心出來打工都ok, 但, 10個中有8個都係廢柴, 更什的仲要偷嘢, 虐待小朋友....

政府如果肯做d嘢, 我地班苦主唔會咁慘!


大宅

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37#
發表於 11-7-28 10:28 |只看該作者
Agree with 'HC603"

Some helper provide the resume is not truth.
They without provide the cert. of education/ course..etc.
Also, so many helper without provide the past contract as reference or reference letter.

They just writing something on the application forms for us as resume. How we know which are truth? Which point are lying?


子爵府

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38#
發表於 11-7-28 10:45 |只看該作者
雖則我個工人還可以,但我覺得法例好唔公平, 呢版先有甘多苦水,好多謝樓主肯出聲,
18/8 (四), 時事追擊 幾點播????

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熹曈媽咪  sorry, 我都唔知幾點, 等我問下個記者先  發表於 11-7-29 00:46


大宅

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39#
發表於 11-7-28 11:14 |只看該作者
1/ 監管外傭公司
(A) 檢討發牌制度 -> 收緊
(B) 打擊非法經營的外傭公司 -> 查牌
(C) 如何監管現有的公司 -> 扣分制, 合約制
(D) 從公司請的工人要有試用期, 如工人犯有嚴重錯誤, 公司要負責任! 吾則不應收取龐大的中介人費用, 而致工人要借財仔還錢比中介人!
(E) 中介公司收容黑工, 應該要坐監! 就等同港人用黑工都係犯法!

2/ 非法黑工
(A) 入境處只理入境, 逾期黑工冇人捉?
警察只查香港人ID, 唔查外傭? 因為冇指令? 工人張ID又有咩用?
(B) 可否在入境處公佈逾期居留的名單?

3/ 如何保障僱主
現今大多是雙職家庭或家中有小孩老人的家庭請工人照顧及打理日常
(A) 我小孩/自理能力有問題的老人家 在家中有"意外"發生的時候, 唔可以告工人疏忽照顧呢??? 案例港媽落街買, 留個小童在家中, 都比人告疏忽照顧啦! 點解工人可以用"我唔知道"帶過??
(B) 工人有工會, 僱主有什麼支援??
(C) 有什麼條例係有針對外傭?



大宅

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好媽媽勳章


40#
發表於 11-7-28 11:15 |只看該作者
仲有hk 僱主要全包醫療, 保障仲好過local people, 佢地睇醫生, 全費要我地負責, 有時超左保險cover 要我地僱主俾.

但我地hk 人呢? 我公司只cover 80%, 上限 $150, 起出都係要自己俾, 法例都冇保障到我地播.

我地只係一般打工仔, 如果工人不幸有乜, 我地要全俾, 好金呀. 但我地服務d公司, 都只包保險cover 果d呀.

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Cammy3007  我公司咩都唔比添!  發表於 11-7-28 14:14

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