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Re: 東堤灣畔CLUB HOUSE 游水

I'm a staff of my boss, if my boss really shout at me, I won't go back home to shout at my maid, you know someone like this? You better introduce the "management course" to YOUR friends. I believe if sukimama can do this to the maid, she don't need to spend time at coffee shop rather to stay at home, someone seems need to attend some other course to understand more about human behaviour.

Matau, we don't know you, you seems didn't introduce yourself or I just miss it? Do you have kids? Are you someone's mother? Why I ask about it just because you seems don't understand what is the feeling of a mother and how a mother want to protect the family

Oh, maybe you have some bad experience before? You can share here and we also make comments, right?

Sukimama, no need to get angry, we understand you just want to share it with your friends, don't talk to the stranger if you don't feel safe.

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發表於 06-7-27 13:49 |只看該作者

Re: 東堤灣畔CLUB HOUSE 游水

funnymama,

Thank you

Thank you :) you totally support

You are "RIGHT". I no need to get angry with stranger

May be she crazy ?-( ?-(
funnymama 寫道:

I'm a staff of my boss, if my boss really shout at me, I won't go back home to shout at my maid, you know someone like this? You better introduce the "management course" to YOUR friends. I believe if sukimama can do this to the maid, she don't need to spend time at coffee shop rather to stay at home, someone seems need to attend some other course to understand more about human behaviour.

Matau, we don't know you, you seems didn't introduce yourself or I just miss it? Do you have kids? Are you someone's mother? Why I ask about it just because you seems don't understand what is the feeling of a mother and how a mother want to protect the family

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發表於 06-7-27 22:39 |只看該作者

Re: 東堤灣畔CLUB HOUSE 游水

我無細路無工人就識答你地咁多問題，唔介紹自己就唔可以俾意見？係唔係咁小圈子先？我都一樣唔識你地啦！我唔係想幫你地搵出問題所在，我真係好我閒打咁多字！

如果大家永遠覺得自己係最不幸個位，sorry，我真係幫你唔到！

出面大部份的managment course都有教manage staff，sukimama對工人的態度由佢一直到而家都覺得無問題就真係一個大問題！我兄弟最初都唔信我，到第二個工人都係有同一個問題時，佢先開始改變自己，而家用到第五個工人，而且可以renew都無問題！信不信由你，我只係好言相告，唔信就算！

對人有一大忌，過份瀝愛就是自掘墳墓！sukimama而家最好就係另請高明，如果唔信我，佢可以再用同一方法對待工人，一年半戴就可以試到個工人。不過我當然希望sukimama可以請到個聖人，咁就可以一勞永日。

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發表於 06-7-28 10:25 |只看該作者

Re: 東堤灣畔CLUB HOUSE 游水

oic, no maid and no kids.......that's why you don't understand

Anyway, I think sukimama will THANKS for your advise and time.........

thank you!

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發表於 06-7-28 14:00 |只看該作者

Re: 東堤灣畔CLUB HOUSE 游水

funnymama 你有無睇清楚我講乜？好明顯，你已經先入為主！

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點解話先入為主

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發表於 06-7-28 14:06 |只看該作者

Re: 東堤灣畔CLUB HOUSE 游水

matau,

我唔明你係話無工人無細路都識答定係無工人無細路就唔識答o甘多問題??? 我諗單憑三言兩語o甘片面唔係o甘容易就搵出問題所在o既.

sukimama 從來都無話過佢係最不幸o既, 我亦都唔覺得佢係最不幸呀, at least 佢有老公, 有細路, 有工人......

我覺得如果要幫人搵出問題所在都要知得全面o的先得o既, 只憑三兩句就 certify 好似有點兒戲兼容易斷錯症o羅!

你兄弟聽o左你忠告後o甘有無去上 management course 去學o下 manage staff 呀? 佢得到你全面性o甘幫佢搵出問題所在到要請到第五個工人先至請到個"聖人"呀???

matau 寫道:
我無細路無工人就識答你地咁多問題，唔介紹自己就唔可以俾意見？係唔係咁小圈子先？我都一樣唔識你地啦！我唔係想幫你地搵出問題所在，我真係好我閒打咁多字！

如果大家永遠覺得自己係最不幸個位，sorry，我真係幫你唔到！

出面大部份的managment course都有教manage staff，sukimama對工人的態度由佢一直到而家都覺得無問題就真係一個大問題！我兄弟最初都唔信我，到第二個工人都係有同一個問題時，佢先開始改變自己，而家用到第五個工人，而且可以renew都無問題！信不信由你，我只係好言相告，唔信就算！

對人有一大忌，過份瀝愛就是自掘墳墓！sukimama而家最好就係另請高明，如果唔信我，佢可以再用同一方法對待工人，一年半戴就可以試到個工人。不過我當然希望sukimama可以請到個聖人，咁就可以一勞永日。

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發表於 06-7-28 15:25 |只看該作者

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matau，我地呢班都係有仔女､有工人､要返工既師奶。因為我地同sukimama背景近似，所以我地會容易啲明佢講既野。如果你覺得我地呢班媽咪諗野都係諗埋一邊，諗得唔夠全面的話，不如你分享吓你自己個人親身經驗，等我地了解多啲你既諗法。我諗咁會好過大家繼續誤會落去，發展成駡戰。

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發表於 06-7-28 19:02 |只看該作者

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matau 寫道:
funnymama 你有無睇清楚我講乜？好明顯，你已經先入為主！

matau o甘你又有無睇清楚 sukimama 講乜呀? 好明顯係你首先先入為主對號入座o羅!

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發表於 06-7-28 22:14 |只看該作者

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發表於 06-7-28 22:51 |只看該作者

Re: 東堤灣畔CLUB HOUSE 游水

matau,
您使唔使返工架,
您咁多見解,有時間出黎一齊tea下呀,
等我聽下您d高見呀麻

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發表於 06-7-28 22:56 |只看該作者

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唔好意思咁多位，多謝PinkyBeBe提醒先發現打漏一隻字。

我原意係無工人無細路就唔識答o甘多問題。

我個兄弟就係唔信我講，又唔想去上堂，到第三個先開始慢慢改善，到第五個佢先明白故中道理，而佢第五個已經就快完第二個contract。

人有好好種，有部份人對人士管理得好，有部份人對財務管理好，，有部份人只會對自己人好！但無論邊一種人，最好就係可以互相學習。你地喜歡小圈子，我無所謂，因為我講出我所見所聞，唔係要大家認同，你地唔接受，背後可能有一、兩個CD-ROM會有所得益或啟發。

另外，我之所以會覺得sukimama有問題，係因為佢第一篇文章係如何的小氣，完全無大將之風。如果佢真係講都好似佢之前對個工人咁好，點解要妒忌個工人去游水，佢又唔係開工時間去。

同大家交流之後，我知我點講你地都會覺得你地先係最了解sukimama，因為你地互相介紹過，重可能見過面！但要記著，中國有句至理名言叫旁觀者清。

PinkyBeBe 寫道:
matau,

我唔明你係話無工人無細路都識答定係無工人無細路就唔識答o甘多問題??? 我諗單憑三言兩語o甘片面唔係o甘容易就搵出問題所在o既.

sukimama 從來都無話過佢係最不幸o既, 我亦都唔覺得佢係最不幸呀, at least 佢有老公, 有細路, 有工人......

我覺得如果要幫人搵出問題所在都要知得全面o的先得o既, 只憑三兩句就 certify 好似有點兒戲兼容易斷錯症o羅!

你兄弟聽o左你忠告後o甘有無去上 management course 去學o下 manage staff 呀? 佢得到你全面性o甘幫佢搵出問題所在到要請到第五個工人先至請到個"聖人"呀???

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發表於 06-7-29 10:00 |只看該作者

Re: 東堤灣畔CLUB HOUSE 游水

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matau 寫道:
唔好意思咁多位，多謝PinkyBeBe提醒先發現打漏一隻字。

我原意係無工人無細路就唔識答o甘多問題。

我個兄弟就係唔信我講，又唔想去上堂，到第三個先開始慢慢改善，到第五個佢先明白故中道理，而佢第五個已經就快完第二個contract。

人有好好種，有部份人對人士管理得好，有部份人對財務管理好，，有部份人只會對自己人好！但無論邊一種人，最好就係可以互相學習。你地喜歡小圈子，我無所謂，因為我講出我所見所聞，唔係要大家認同，你地唔接受，背後可能有一、兩個CD-ROM會有所得益或啟發。

另外，我之所以會覺得sukimama有問題，係因為佢第一篇文章係如何的小氣，完全無大將之風。如果佢真係講都好似佢之前對個工人咁好，點解要妒忌個工人去游水，佢又唔係開工時間去。

同大家交流之後，我知我點講你地都會覺得你地先係最了解sukimama，因為你地互相介紹過，重可能見過面！但要記著，中國有句至理名言叫旁觀者清。

Still not understand ah?

旁觀者清 or 自命清高 or 自以為是, is there any course teach about it? I don't really clear of the meaning, maybe I didn't take enough course.

小圈子? How many people then become 小圈子?

A group of 旁觀者 will it become 小圈子?

Tung Chug mama club become 小圈子? BK is a Big or small
圈子?

Any course teach about it?

It's fun that this topic can really make me think more about MANAGEMENT but not SWIMMING.....

Maybe I'll join the management coruse later to see how it can help to manage the maid. :mrgreen:

Thanks again everyone, I think we should stop

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發表於 06-7-29 21:47 |只看該作者

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Yes, you are right, that should be stopped.

Anyway, from the discussion with you. My feeling is same as the Rich Dad.

Rich Dad, Poor Dad. Page 232. "one of the management skills is the management of people. Many people only manage people they feel smarter than and they have power over, such as subordinsates in a work situation."

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發表於 06-7-29 22:37 |只看該作者

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我個人見解"旁觀者清"都要知多o的全面o的先會清o既, 如果只係睇幾句就覺得自己好清 :tongue:

我唔覺得 sukimama 妒忌個工人去游水wor, 有咩好妒忌o者自己無得游就話o者! 我覺得 sukimama 只係個工人o既態度再加上先前佢o既所作所為所以先至o係度呻兩句o者. 呻兩句就叫做無大將之風???? 攪笑o的o羅!!!

更何況有工人有細路都唔代表"清"晒所有o既o者, 家家有本難唸的經你食o左蕃薯放臭屁唔代表人人食o左都會放 or 放親就因為食o左蕃薯o者!!!

你兄弟o既 case 可能佢第五個工人係同你o既工人一樣係"聖人" o羅!!!

如果你覺得我o地係小圈子o既話我o地就真係一個互相 support/關懷 & 和諧o既小圈子, 平時我o地少食蕃薯&唔會用個肺o黎講o野o既!

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發表於 06-7-29 23:28 |只看該作者

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PinkyBeBe ,

小心動到胎氣呀

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發表於 06-7-30 01:27 |只看該作者

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如果你覺得我o地係小圈子o既話我o地就真係一個互相 support/關懷 & 和諧o既小圈子, 平時我o地少食蕃薯&唔會用個肺o黎講o野o既!

更何況有有工人有細路都唔代表"清"晒所有o既o者, 家家有本難唸的經你食o左蕃薯放臭屁唔代表人人食o左都會放 or 放親就因為食o左蕃薯o者!!!

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發表於 06-7-30 01:44 |只看該作者

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Rich Dad, Poor Dad. Page 232. "one of the management skills is the management of people. Many people only manage people they feel smarter than and they have power over, such as subordinsates in a work situation.

you think that's a Bible? Matau, I feel sick of you, can you shut up? "Management skill is the management of people", let me tell you something, I finished this book many years ago and it's not update anymore, please try something new!

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發表於 06-7-30 11:13 |只看該作者

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Matau,

諗深一層其實我o地同你三九唔識七你都願意以"旁觀者"身份去打o甘多字o黎幫sukimama搵出問題所在, 實在係出於一番善意o既.

但你有無諗過點解我o地呢班小圈子唔係o甘接受到你o的o甘"清"o既意見呢? 連你兄弟都要去到第三個工人先慢慢發覺問題所在但要去到第五個工人先開始接受你o既意見.... 其實坊間好多關於 communication o既課程可以學o下點樣同人 communicate 從而 improve interpersonal skill o架!

至於你兄弟點解唔能夠即時聽取你o既意見, 因為我呢個旁觀者所得o既資料實在有限真係唔係好"清", 所以俾唔到咩意見& 介紹o的咩課程/書本俾你啦. 如果你有興趣我o地呢班小圈子以旁觀者o既身份去幫你分析o下問題所在o既歡迎你o係呢度講出o黎 or 另開 topic 一齊研究研究o既.

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