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大宅

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21#
發表於 07-4-24 10:42 |只看該作者

Re: 請問邊隻日本奶粉近人奶配方呢


大宅

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22#
發表於 07-4-24 10:45 |只看該作者

Re: 請問邊隻日本奶粉近人奶配方呢

Soy milk does contain phytoestrogens (an estrogen-like hormone found in plants such as whole grains, potatoes, dried beans, and apples) It is only good alternative for children over a year old who won't drink or are allergic to cows' milk.

Because soy milk contains phytates, naturally occurring substances found in whole-grain foods, legumes, and nuts that can decrease the absorption of calcium and other minerals, you have to make sure your child's diet contains other sources of calcium-rich or calcium-fortified foods.

Soy milk or cow's milk is not a silver bullet in any case.


水晶宮

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23#
發表於 07-4-24 11:47 |只看該作者

Re: 請問邊隻日本奶粉近人奶配方呢

gunsou,

我覺得久唔久補一次,奶粉/豆奶都唔會差太遠,不過如果聽nikitac咁講,又好似奶粉好d。我有個姊妹俾開名牌日本奶粉囝囝食(無餵人奶),點知敏感,未滿月醫生就叫佢要轉豆奶,但過得兩個星期就要轉返奶粉,因為營養/熱量等不足夠bb生長,唔可以長期食,除非有特別原因,所以我諗如果bb補過某隻奶粉又唔敏感,都唔好隨便轉,但如果有敏感而又只係久唔久補一次,咁可能豆奶會好d,因為都唔知轉邊隻奶粉至唔敏感。

不過妳都有冰奶庫,其實唔洗放罐奶粉看門口。
我都有兩罐細nanha1(sample),係用黎塞住奶奶把口同俾我睇住奶粉既成份,然後好proud咁對住個罐發顛咁自言自語,你有無抗體哎?你有無活細胞哎?你d蛋白質有無我d咁幼細哎?你d鈣有無我d咁易吸收哎?你d鐵質加黎做乜,bb都吸收唔到?
識網友只限吹下水、交換下資訊、發揮網力,邊個認真就邊個輸。


複式洋房

積分: 125


24#
發表於 07-4-24 11:48 |只看該作者

Re: 請問邊隻日本奶粉近人奶配方呢

有些嬰兒對豆奶都有敏感,所以要小心觀察。

豆奶的營養不會比牛奶多,只不過嬰兒飲用豆奶的歷史尚短,暫時未見報告而己。


大宅

積分: 3415


25#
發表於 07-4-24 19:50 |只看該作者

Re: 請問邊隻日本奶粉近人奶配方呢

eeb,

i think whether to have cow's milk or soya milk or other supplement (i know someone not giving cow's milk or soya milk but other supplement to her bb) really depends on personal background and knowledge. and it is quite controversial if not political. i have not bought anymore formula milk after last episode of mastitis. the consideration of soya milk is for the time after weaning off few months later when milk is just as supplement for the bb. maybe i saw more ppl with allergy and other illnesses due to milk rather than soya milk, so i still prefer soya milk. but breastmilk is still the best so i plan to BF till at least 6 months.

anyway, i did an interesting experiment in these 2 days. i looked at my breaskmilk under the microscope. haha... i cannot find any cells though ppl keep telling there are white cells in the milk to help the bb's health. i will further confirm that later.


大宅

積分: 1167


26#
發表於 07-4-24 22:14 |只看該作者

Re: 請問邊隻日本奶粉近人奶配方呢

how about goat milk? have anyone tried that?


大宅

積分: 2466


27#
發表於 07-4-24 23:52 |只看該作者

Re: 請問邊隻日本奶粉近人奶配方呢

There's no scientific evidence to date that drinking soy milk is harmful to children or adults. People have been drinking soy milk since the 1960s without ill effect.

In theory, goat's milk is less allergenic and more easily digestible than cow's milk, but it should not be used as a substitute for infant formula. Like cow's milk, it can cause intestinal irritation and anemia. Again, I must stresst that Infants below the age of one year should not be fed cow milk, goat milk, or soy beverage. These milks are low in iron and differ in the protein composition compared to mothers milk.

Really, breast feeding or infant formula are the way to go, with breast feeding most superior.


水晶宮

積分: 51073

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28#
發表於 07-4-25 09:45 |只看該作者

Re: 請問邊隻日本奶粉近人奶配方呢

gunsou,

can't believe you actually look at it under microscope, are you working in lab?
I think the amount of cells in breastmilk is not that many, how large is your sample volume? And is your microscope powerful enough to see the antibodies as well? Would be very interesting.
識網友只限吹下水、交換下資訊、發揮網力,邊個認真就邊個輸。


大宅

積分: 3415


29#
發表於 07-4-25 10:26 |只看該作者

Re: 請問邊隻日本奶粉近人奶配方呢

eeb,

yeah. i work in lab.

antibodies cannot normally be seen under microscope without special technique. i will try another method to examine the milk later. i also sent some milk for cultures (to grow bacteria/other microorganisms). will see the result.

seems that i'm getting more and more crazy with BF.


男爵府

積分: 7768


30#
發表於 07-4-25 10:41 |只看該作者

Re: 請問邊隻日本奶粉近人奶配方呢

Hi gunsou,

Wow! Laughing me for your "crazy" lab. test on human milk! Anyway, I'm quite interesting to your findings. Wait for your result, Hoho...

妳真闊綽, 捐出幾滴 "無價母乳" 做偉大科研! 努力啊!

Hayes mama
Hayes had been breastfeeding for almost 3 years, then naturally weaned by himself!

Wish Hayes with Love, Peace & Joy!!


大宅

積分: 3415


31#
發表於 07-4-25 12:59 |只看該作者

Re: 請問邊隻日本奶粉近人奶配方呢

Hayes mama,

no 偉大 lah. just advised by my doctor as i have not been feeling well for some time with BF. she knows my occupation, so she reminded me that. though i admit that i'm a bit crazy sometimes.


水晶宮

積分: 51073

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32#
發表於 07-4-25 17:04 |只看該作者

Re: 請問邊隻日本奶粉近人奶配方呢

gunsou,

Hey, could I ask a question? What's the density of breastmilk? Is it fairly similar, almost the same, as water? I am doing some reading on breastmilk and the report using gram not ml or oz, could I assume 100g = 100ml?
識網友只限吹下水、交換下資訊、發揮網力,邊個認真就邊個輸。


大宅

積分: 1192


33#
發表於 07-4-26 14:32 |只看該作者

Re: 請問邊隻日本奶粉近人奶配方呢

在公司泵奶後可以怎樣keep住它?


大宅

積分: 3415


34#
發表於 07-4-26 14:39 |只看該作者

Re: 請問邊隻日本奶粉近人奶配方呢

eeb 寫道:
gunsou,

Hey, could I ask a question? What's the density of breastmilk? Is it fairly similar, almost the same, as water? I am doing some reading on breastmilk and the report using gram not ml or oz, could I assume 100g = 100ml?


i'm not sure about its density. interesting question. probably not the same as water, i guess. there is fat and other solid stuff after cooling.

have you bought the milk collection shell yet? i shall go to celki to buy sth next week (friday). will have 15% off on that. see if you want my help. do you know the discount on medela items in the nursing staff association?


大宅

積分: 3415


35#
發表於 07-4-26 14:40 |只看該作者

Re: 請問邊隻日本奶粉近人奶配方呢

ANNYwwc 寫道:
在公司泵奶後可以怎樣keep住它?


i have a small fridge in my office. maybe you can use a fridge-to-go or cold pack.


子爵府

積分: 11765

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36#
發表於 07-4-26 14:43 |只看該作者

Re: 請問邊隻日本奶粉近人奶配方呢

eeb 寫道:
然後好proud咁對住個罐發顛咁自言自語,你有無抗體哎?你有無活細胞哎?你d蛋白質有無我d咁幼細哎?你d鈣有無我d咁易吸收哎?你d鐵質加黎做乜,bb都吸收唔到?

好好笑


子爵府

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37#
發表於 07-4-26 14:54 |只看該作者

Re: 請問邊隻日本奶粉近人奶配方呢

要視乎你公司有無雪櫃, 如果有, 你可以買一個fridge-to-go放在公司冰箱, 它隨冰袋有一個黑色布袋送, 當我pump完奶之後會放進黑色袋, 然後放入雪櫃(not冰箱, 因不可立即將微暖的人奶放進冰箱), 等放工後便從冰箱內取出冰袋, 將凍奶放進冰袋, 然後9秒9回家, 但我之前要返學, 回到家後(約4.5小時後)還有少許凍
ANNYwwc 寫道:
在公司泵奶後可以怎樣keep住它?


複式洋房

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38#
發表於 07-4-26 15:13 |只看該作者

Re: 請問邊隻日本奶粉近人奶配方呢

ANNYwwc 寫道:
在公司泵奶後可以怎樣keep住它?


由去年二月一直泵奶到上個月,我都沒有將奶放公司雪櫃,因為太多人用,放滿東西很dirty .我一直只是用冰袋+冰種,放在office(有空調),放工馬上帶回家,仍很凍.即使在炎夏日子都不曾試過有問題.

當然你要考慮工作環境溫度會否偏高,e.g.你的坐位是否西斜 or 很近熱源(例如機房)等因素.


大宅

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39#
發表於 07-4-26 15:16 |只看該作者

Re: 請問邊隻日本奶粉近人奶配方呢

BB喝冰奶有冇問題呢? 人奶不是暖的嗎?
冰奶BB肯飲嗎?


水晶宮

積分: 51073

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40#
發表於 07-4-26 15:41 |只看該作者

Re: 請問邊隻日本奶粉近人奶配方呢

要坐暖先

yang_ma 寫道:
BB喝冰奶有冇問題呢? 人奶不是暖的嗎?
冰奶BB肯飲嗎?
識網友只限吹下水、交換下資訊、發揮網力,邊個認真就邊個輸。

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