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你都好勁, 咁多版, 仲要有"千字文"都追晒, 我都無心機睇多次~

1.有時bb未必準時捱到4個鐘飲奶有時早半個鐘就嘈,有時 3個字,我都盡量拖到早5-10分鐘,可以嗎?
OK呀, 個時間差唔多過15分鐘都得

2.bb飲奶連掃風,大約半個鐘就完成,我迫佢同我玩,但多數佢半個鐘就不停大呵欠,有時玩下仲訓埋tim..唔知係咪我同佢玩得悶呢?因為佢咁細個真係唔知同佢玩咩好...失想問如果咁就做唔到食1hrs,玩1hrs,訓2hrs點算呢??
而家係食連玩1hrs,最利害都係1.5hrs..咁算唔算1個CYCLE呢?
唔係悶, 而係食奶對BB黎講已經係好大運動量, 佢D "RAM"又少, 所以攰, 個世界對佢咁新, 同佢玩咩野, 介紹咩野俾佢識, 佢都覺得新奇; 介紹身體部位/按摩/郁下手腳/介紹家具/讀書都得; 2個月大好細個, 1HRS食+玩, 瞓3HRS都得, 不過唔多過3HRS一個NAP...慢慢佢加左RAM, 就要同你玩/自己玩長D時間

3.佢每次nap的時間都唔定的有時1,5鐘有時斷斷續續1hrs,,多數係離下一餐奶半個鐘或45分鐘就醒,跟住就喊la,,咁佢醒咗我好唔好抱佢呢?
我未試過咁, 但如果係我, 我唔會第一時間理佢, 等多幾分鐘, 做埋手頭上D野先, 可能到你理佢前佢已經瞓返...因為我地唔知佢係想瞓, 但落唔到下一個睡眠CYCLE, 定係已經瞓夠, 所以等多一陣先

4.佢nap個陣一定要奶咀先可以自己訓到係床度,到佢訓到咁上下我就拎走(中途都跌跌執執好幾次ga)
咁算唔算成功呢?
樓上有媽媽試過, BB瞓著前攞走奶咀, 一黎唔洗執, 二黎瞓之前同瞓之後一樣, 所以唔會因為唔同而喊...不防一試~

5.到夜晚7點餐奶後8點度開始喊要訓覺好難先拖延佢半個鐘,就一定要訓la,一直訓到11點我抱醒他飲奶,飲完掃完風多數呢餐唔雖要奶咀都可以訓番,但他一定會要飲夜奶,試過加多份量佢都係要飲多餐..我想問我呢一part有無問題呢?
佢未必係肚餓, 而係落唔到下一個睡眠CYCLE, 要用奶去安慰....一方面唔喊唔餵, 另一方面每晚喊醒減奶量20ML, 直至無晒, 就用拍去安慰2分鐘

6.我想問2個月bb大通常飲幾多安奶呢?我個bb每次飲完個口都仲會keep住啜緊咁係咪應該加份量,咁佢就唔會每餐之間早咗咍要食呢?但我加份量又驚多過頭....佢而家飲緊4安奶...
我隻B2個月大時食120ML, 佢地啜奶反射要到4個月先消失; 如果食奶粉, 我醫生教我開滿一支細樽, 由得佢食...不過我隻係細碼B....如果你BB太肥, 我唸你都係跟正常份量

7.而家我暫住係媽咪(即bb婆婆)度住,都住咗1個月la諗住bb4個月大到先搬返屋企,我想問咁對bb會唔會唔係咁適應呢?返到屋企係咪要再train過呢?係咪應該d早搬番去呢?
而家TRAIN好未必要再TRAIN過, 正如TRAIN好O既BB可以帶出街都定時想瞓一樣, 最重要個SCHDULE唔好改, 尤其般屋初期, 另外就係KEEP住同一樣安慰物.....不防多D同BB講幾時會返屋企, 有時間帶下佢返去睇下, 唔好以為BB唔識, 佢地好叻, 好多野都知, 不過唔話你聽佢知O架咋~
當然, PREPARE FOR THE WORSE, 真係要TRAIN 過咪TRAIN過囉..呢道大把人支持你~

原帖由 allytang 於 10-6-7 00:33 發表
hello~pyjess同各位媽媽你地好...我終於追晒呢個POST啦同時我都同一時間訓練緊我個BB^^,,不過好似時得時唔得咁,仲有些問題希望指點下我,,謝謝!!

我個B仲有3日就2個月,,現在己經實行咗定時餵奶(7am,11am,3pm,7pm,11p ...

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Hi pyjess and all experienced moms,

I have been reading this thread for a while and started to train my baby two weeks ago.She is 2 months and 1 week old, and we are feeding her at a 3.5 hours time interval which is 0700, 1030, 1430, 1530, 2100, 0030, mix feeding with pumped breast milk and formula.

It seems like she can sleep on her own after the 2100 feeding which was a big achievement for us!! However, I have encountered some problems and appreciate for your advices.

1. We are having hard time to wake her up at 0030 to take milk. We gave her 120ml but she can only finish half most of time becuz she is asleep or too sleepy to take milk. Then we follow 唔喊唔餵, when she wakes up at 3 or 4am, we feed her 60ml only. There were two times when she woke up, either she cried for 10mins and went back to sleep or we 拍去安慰. But it only happened twice!! Last night, we let her cried for over 30mins. Finally we gave in and fed her 60ml and she went back to sleep right away. Should we continue to feed her less milk, e.g. 40ml/30ml or just ignore her??

2.It is hard to feed her at 7am as well as she is still very sleepy. Also, she goes to sleep right away after the 0700 and 1030 feeding/掃風. It seems like it is not easy to wake her up to following the "eat" -> "play" part of the cycle. Should we try not to let her sleep after feeding? Indeed, we have tried, but it is hard to keep her awake if she is so sleepy. I have tried to introduce our home to her, 介紹身體部位/按摩/郁下手腳/介紹家具, put her under the sun, but doens't really work well. Maybe I was not trying hard enough??

3. Right now, our night time routine is to take shower at 8:30pm, and feed her at 9pm,then put her to her bed after the feeding. We would like to make the feeding in a 4 hour time interval, perhaps as 0700, 1100, 1500, 1900, 2300. However, if we implement this new schedule, we probably can not keep our current routine: shower -> milk -> sleep. As I feel taking shower at 10 something at night and going to bed at 11 pm is too late for a baby. Do you think it will work if we feed her at 1900, then shower at 2030 and put her to bed afterward?

Thanks for your time to read this and looking forward for your reply. Thanks a lot!!

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Question 3:
Your 4-hour interval is ok and you may feed her a bit earlier, say at 2230 so that she can sleep earlier.
Taking bath at 2200 is really too late. Do it at 1845 and then feed her at 1900 may be a better alternative. I wouldn't suggest taking bath after feeding cos some baby vomit easily.

Question 1:
After introducing 4-hour interval and have milk a bit earlier at 2230, I don't expect to feed her at 0030 anymore.
Firstly, I would like to ask if she was awoken before she went to bed at night, so that she know that she is sleep on her own? Cos bb don't like changing environment before and after sleeping.
If there's no change before and after sleeping, and she keeps waking up every night, feed her but reduce the volume of milk night by night. Upon the night that no more milk should be given, use "control-crying skill (wait for 1 min - comfort her for 2 min - leave; cry again - wait for 2 min - comfort her for 2 min - leave...etc).
Introducing "comfort item" to her is important so that when she hold that comfort item, she understand that she should close her eyes.
A trained 2-month old bb can skip one meal at mid night. ie, 2230+4hr = 0230 --> can be skip and wake up at 0630 or later.

Question 2
If she sleep earlier and no more feeding at 0030, or in the mid-night, i expect that she may not be very sleepy at 0700 or eating desire beat sleeping desire. After breakfast, if she is allowed to sleep from 0800 - 1100, cos she is still very very young that nap for 3 hours or less is ok. But please be reminded, the same schedule should be kept every day. If one day, you found that she don't want to sleep immediately after breakfast, you should tune to time schedule to let her play at, say up to 0900.
Again, keep the schedule every day, after revision. I won't suggest to cut the nap too short, unless, you turely find that your baby doesn't like sleeping, but still very active and have good temper at the same time.

Wish you all the best!

原帖由 purpleLover 於 10-6-7 16:38 發表
Hi pyjess and all experienced moms,

I have been reading this thread for a while and started to train my baby two weeks ago.She is 2 months and 1 week old, and we are feeding her at a 3.5 hours time ...

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Pyjess 多謝你的答覆呀，不過我還有些問題想你幫忙，謝謝~

1.我這個時間表好嗎？可以set個較適合的嗎？
2.今天每餐bb都早45分鐘喊要食奶奶，是不是他唔夠飽呢？應否加多1安奶給他或許可以4小時1餐呢？
3.其實介奶咀是否很難呢？我給bb奶咀5天而已，但他已經很依賴，現在無奶咀他不能自己瞓，我怕日後要介很困難，如現在找其他東西取代奶咀可以嗎？有什麼可以取代呢？
唔好意思太多問題~謝謝~

原帖由 pyjess 於 10-6-7 01:44 發表
你都好勁, 咁多版, 仲要有"千字文"都追晒, 我都無心機睇多次~

1.有時bb未必準時捱到4個鐘飲奶有時早半個鐘就嘈,有時 3個字,我都盡量拖到早5-10分鐘,可以嗎?
OK呀, 個時間差唔多過15分鐘都得

2.bb飲奶連掃風,大約半 ...

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本帖最後由 littletweenie 於 20-6-8 03:45 編輯

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1. OK, 除左夜奶, 幫佢戒左佢喇
如果想BB早少少瞓, 可以早30分鐘食最後O個餐, 不過要日日如是~

2.試下加多20ML, 睇佢食唔食, 食唔晒佢會推或者吐返D出黎, 食得晒, 就俾佢食

3.食奶咀好過食手, 手仲難戒....而且奶咀可以洗, 可以帶住四圍去.....要用其他野取代OK, 不過原則都係可以洗, 可以四圍帶出去, 樓上有MAMI用公仔, 我用毛巾, 不過我隻衰B都係戒唔到食手~

原帖由 allytang 於 10-6-8 00:26 發表
Pyjess 多謝你的答覆呀，不過我還有些問題想你幫忙，謝謝~

1.我這個時間表好嗎？可以set個較適合的嗎？
2.今天每餐bb都早45分鐘喊要食奶奶，是不是他唔夠飽呢？應否加多1安奶給他或許可以4小時1餐呢？
3.其實介奶咀是否很難呢？我 ...

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嘻嘻, 呢度個個都新過, 個個都因為錯左想糾正先入黎, 所以唔洗介意, 要同隻B熟, 係要D時間....就算我隻B咁, 我都要時時觀察佢O既行為, 以前定作息, 而家要定家規....

不過TRAIN還TRAIN, 要記住抱係好重要, 同食奶一樣, 每日必需....不過我唔會O係B瞓時餵奶, 同樣, 我唔會抱住瞓.....佢清醒時, 我唔會吝惜抱抱....抱抱=愛, 小朋友要有愛先可以生存...我唔係講比喻呀, 有人做過實驗, 如常俾猩猩BB食野, 但無任何動物抱佢地, 最後D 猩猩死晒....

所以千萬唔好唔抱, 我地只係唔抱瞓, 明白?

原帖由 littletweenie 於 10-6-8 15:08 發表

多謝pyjess你0既提示! 我觀察0左幾日，終於發現我阿b原來係4個鐘先要食一次奶~ 其他都係扭抱多
我始終係新手媽咪，好多時bb喊就以為佢唔夠飽，再餵奶。
e家終於慢慢習慣0左阿b食奶時間，我就易辦事得多喇!
下一個 ...

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請問你bb自己玩時間肯玩幾耐?玩d咩?
我bb 10個月,成日周圍爬/學行,唔肯係playpen玩,要人同佢玩,連帶瞓覺都痴身d.

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Question 3:
Taking bath at 2200 is really too late. Do it at 1845 and then feed herat 1900 may be a better alternative. I wouldn't suggest taking bathafter feeding cos some baby vomit easily.

I thought of taking shower before 1900. Since I m a working mom, so Idont get to be home until or after 1900. However, I believe it is important spend some quality time with the baby, so my husband and I would like to take the shower for the baby when possible.

Question 1:
Firstly, I would like to ask if she was awoken before she went to bedat night, so that she know that she is sleep on her own? Cos bb don'tlike changing environment before and after sleeping.

Yes, she is sleepy but awake when we put her in her bed. She needs to suck on her fingers (well, indeed, it seems like she wants to suck on something but maybe she is still too young, she is more like licking her fingers at this stage) to put herself to sleep. It would take 10 - 30 minutes.

If there's no change before and after sleeping, and she keeps waking upevery night, feed her but reduce the volume of milk night by night.Upon the night that no more milk should be given, use "control-cryingskill (wait for 1 min - comfort her for 2 min - leave; cry again - waitfor 2 min - comfort her for 2 min - leave...etc).

Last night, we fed her at 0100 instead of 0030. And she could sleep until 0700 this morning. I am not sure if this is the right way to do it, but at least we got some longer sleep. Once we implement the new schedule (4 hours, probably start this weekend or so), I would try your suggestion to feed her at 2230 as her last milk. And see how that works out.

Introducing "comfort item" to her is important so that when she holdthat comfort item, she understand that she should close her eyes.

I have introduced a Cuski doll to her two weeks ago. I put the Cuski to her arm after putting her to her bed. However, she doesn't seem to care/know about it. She still wants to suck/lick her fingers. Yesterday, we washed the Cuski and she doesn't miss it at all. Maybe she is too young to realize this comfort item??? But I will continue give it to her and hopefully one day, she would realize it..hehe..

Question 2
If she sleep earlier and no more feeding at 0030, or in the mid-night,i expect that she may not be very sleepy at 0700 or eating desire beatsleeping desire. After breakfast, if she is allowed to sleep from 0800- 1100, cos she is still very very young that nap for 3 hours or lessis ok.

Speaking of naps. We still have no control on that part. She doesn't take naps in every section. It is sort of a mess!

Please correct me if I am wrong. The last two hours before the next feeding would be nap time. And even she is not sleepy, I should put her in her bed and let her try to sleep, right? If she cries, try out the "controlled crying" method. And do not take her out of the bed thru out the whole nap time. So there might be a chance that she would cry for two hours. And after trying for few days, if she still does not take naps during a specific time. We could conclude that she doesn't need a nap during that time?

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睇咗好多你地講點樣train bb 唔好扭眼訓, 我都好想train 我個b 唔好次次瞓覺都要tum同抱...

但係我個b 而家3週大, 可以開始train 未呢? 咁早會唔會太恨心呢?

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Question 3:
I thought of taking shower before 1900. Since I m a working mom, so Idont get to be home until or after 1900. However, I believe it is important spend some quality time with the baby, so my husband and I would like to take the shower for the baby when possible.

Your baby is taken care by maid or relatives? Unless you want to check if the baby was physically abuse by other, taking bath on your own is not 100% necessary. Quality time can be derived by dedicating your time to play with her, feed her and accompany with her. Sure, taking bath is a method, but just one of the methods.

Question 1:
Yes, she is sleepy but awake when we put her in her bed. She needs to suck on her fingers (well, indeed, it seems like she wants to suck on something but maybe she is still too young, she is more like licking her fingers at this stage) to put herself to sleep. It would take 10 - 30 minutes.

Every baby suck before sleeping. This is how they comfort themselves. The only concern is whether she still such on her fingers when she grown up. So, introduce other "comfort item" like doll to her. Just put that comfort item in her arms when she sleep, and take it away when she wake up. I hope this will change her bad habit of licking / sucking on fingers but I cannot assure the result.

Last night, we fed her at 0100 instead of 0030. And she could sleep until 0700 this morning. I am not sure if this is the right way to do it, but at least we got some longer sleep. Once we implement the new schedule (4 hours, probably start this weekend or so), I would try your suggestion to feed her at 2230 as her last milk. And see how that works out.

She learns every day.

I have introduced a Cuski doll to her two weeks ago. I put the Cuski to her arm after putting her to her bed. However, she doesn't seem to care/know about it. She still wants to suck/lick her fingers. Yesterday, we washed the Cuski and she doesn't miss it at all. Maybe she is too young to realize this comfort item??? But I will continue give it to her and hopefully one day, she would realize it..hehe..

Just continue to do so, one day you may find that she cannot sleep without Cuski.

Question 2
Please correct me if I am wrong. The last two hours before the next feeding would be nap time. And even she is not sleepy, I should put her in her bed and let her try to sleep, right? If she cries, try out the "controlled crying" method. And do not take her out of the bed thru out the whole nap time. So there might be a chance that she would cry for two hours. And after trying for few days, if she still does not take naps during a specific time. We could conclude that she doesn't need a nap during that time?

Partially correct.
Controlled crying mean comfort her after waiting for some time, the time of waiting get longer and longer while comforting period is fixed at 2 min. Secondly, Supernanny would say: don't take her out of bed and don't talk to her. But after my observating on BK mami cases, I found that less interference method should be use first: 輕拍< humming < say: Mami's here < hold her, but don't have eye contact with her and don't turn on the light.
Keep using this schedule / method for 2 weeks and then review~

原帖由 purpleLover 於 10-6-9 10:31 發表
Question 3:
Taking bath at 2200 is really too late. Do it at 1845 and then feed herat 1900 may be a better alternative. I wouldn't suggest taking bathafter feeding cos some baby vomit easily.

I thoug ...

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太早TRAIN, 最少都要6WEEK先得
而家只可以固定時間作息
襯呢3星期睇晒22頁四百幾個POST先喇~

原帖由 Jamie413 於 10-6-10 18:42 發表
睇咗好多你地講點樣train bb 唔好扭眼訓, 我都好想train 我個b 唔好次次瞓覺都要tum同抱...

但係我個b 而家3週大, 可以開始train 未呢? 咁早會唔會太恨心呢? ...

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3week 太早train o既意思係咪而家扭眼訓都應該照抱佢瞓呢? 用你個1min, 2min, 4min.. o既方法會太早?

會唔會早d correct 佢好啲呢有?因為我有少少驚會養成個壞習慣... 其實呀b 頭兩個星期唔使抱瞓o架, 不過奶奶, 呀媽, 呀爸, 老公, 呀b 啲姑媽, 都鍾意抱到瞓著覺先放落床仔, 呢個星期呀b 開始每次瞓/nap 都扭眼訓, 唔理佢就拆天...

而家定緊固定食奶時間
3:00am
6:30am
10:00am
1:30pm
5:00pm
8:30pm
11:30pm

至於玩同瞓就由佢o架咋, 咁得唔得呢?

我琴日巳經睇咗一半posts 喇, 今日繼續努力!

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原帖由 pyjess 於 10-6-10 23:34 發表
Your baby is taken care by maid or relatives? Unlessyou want to check if the baby was physically abuse by other, takingbath on your own is not 100% necessary. Quality time can be derived bydedicating your time to play with her, feed her and accompany with her.Sure, taking bath is a method, but just one of the methods.

If we take shower before the 1900 feeding, do we need play with her before letting her to sleep? I mean which cycle ( 1900 or the 2230 cycle) should we treat as the last cycle (e.g. eat-> sleep)?

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各位好啊!
睇倒呢個topic,
簡直係絕望中既一絲希望!!

首先,
好欣賞呢度既媽媽,
因為你地唔係人云亦云,
而係想搵一個最好既方法去比bb有好既食同訓覺質素!
相比起好多一味縱既家長,
你地真係做得好好啊!
n_n

(唔好意思,因為我本身係幼師,
所以見得太多bad example,
有感而發...
>>但對住自己個4個幾月既b,
真係投曬降..)

我有問題想請教下大家啊,

1. 如果bb係下一餐奶夠鐘既時間醒左係度喊,
咁應該抱佢出黎,但等到夠鐘先餵,
定係由得佢係床仔度喊到夠鐘先比佢出黎?

2. 請問bb一訓醒就大喊, 係咪代表佢未訓夠?

3. 食>玩>訓呢個順序, 係咪for臨訓前果個ccycle都一樣? 定係一食完就掃風然後放落床唔洗玩? (佢已戒夜奶)

我地要決心做一個主動去教bb既好媽媽!
我相信堅持係有價值既!!
加油!!n_n

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我有問題想請教下大家啊,

1. 如果bb係下一餐奶夠鐘既時間醒左係度喊,
咁應該抱佢出黎,但等到夠鐘先餵,
定係由得佢係床仔度喊到夠鐘先比佢出黎?

--> 如果未夠鐘食奶就醒, 我會抱下我個女, 同佢玩下, 到夠鐘食完之後, 就放番低佢等佢自己玩

2. 請問bb一訓醒就大喊, 係咪代表佢未訓夠?

--> 好難講, 有時係未瞓夠, 有時可能醒o左唔見其他人唔開心, 有時可能係發惡夢嚇醒, 有時可能係心情唔好....你要留意下亞b係點

3. 食>玩>訓呢個順序, 係咪for臨訓前果個ccycle都一樣? 定係一食完就掃風然後放落床唔洗玩? (佢已戒夜奶)

--> 我個女晚上7點食奶, 跟住就玩, 9點佢會瞓, 到11點補一支奶就繼續瞓 (可能瞓住食/醒一陣, 食完又即刻瞓番)

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原帖由 titanlow 於 15-6-2010 14:52 發表
我有問題想請教下大家啊,

1. 如果bb係下一餐奶夠鐘既時間醒左係度喊,
咁應該抱佢出黎,但等到夠鐘先餵,
定係由得佢係床仔度喊到夠鐘先比佢出黎?

--> 如果未夠鐘食奶就醒, 我會抱下我個女, 同佢玩下, 到夠鐘食完之後 ...

多謝你既回應啊!

我想問下點解11點要補一支奶?
係咪驚佢半夜會餓醒?
咁係當做9點訓, 定係11點訓啊?

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唔係抱瞓, 而係唔用得1min, 2min, 4min.. 方法住, 只可以用定作息時間...有D 媽媽由BB一出世就固定作息, 亦唔抱瞓, 所以從來都唔洗TRAIN
你而家多D了解下BB喊咩, 鐘意D咩先

會唔會早d correct 佢好啲呢有?
係, 所以一定唔可以抱瞓, 真係好危險, 要抱等佢清醒先抱多D

玩同瞓都要固定時間, 其實得一個月大左右, 都無咩幾多時間唔瞓, 最緊要食完奶掃足30分鐘先俾佢瞓, 落床時要清醒, 叫佢瞓喇, 俾D野佢, 等佢習慣落床/有公仔OR毛巾OR奶咀= 瞓, 同埋習慣自己瞓著O既感覺

原帖由 Jamie413 於 10-6-11 09:16 發表
3week 太早train o既意思係咪而家扭眼訓都應該照抱佢瞓呢? 用你個1min, 2min, 4min.. o既方法會太早?

會唔會早d correct 佢好啲呢有?因為我有少少驚會養成個壞習慣... 其實呀b 頭兩個星期唔使抱瞓o架, 不過奶奶, ...

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