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Carson_mum & patsm,

恭喜妳們的小朋友領洗了！吖.... 我唔記得左去睇吓你們的盧山真面目添！

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jk67jk,
Thanks so much! But you know what??? He cry during 領洗!!

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Carson_mum,

Don't be embarrass! My son borned in Feb and missed the chance to baptist in Easter (because we didn't apply for the birth certificate yet). When he got baptist, he was already 10 months old.

You know what happened? He's not only crying, but struggle!!! He acted like going to execution more than baptism.

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jk67jk,
我仔仔仲唔肯比神父接近佢, 當神父行近D都大叫.... 攪到不知幾唔好意思!!

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Carson_mun,
我個bb就係最細

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發表於 04-9-18 08:31 |只看該作者

Re: 天主教教友mame請進~~

patsm,
應該話; 係叫得最大聲果個

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發表於 04-9-20 17:50 |只看該作者

Re: 天主教教友mame請進~~

Hi, all Catholic moms,

有沒有人想過為子女領洗的目的？

教會訓示？入讀天主教學校？究竟為何？

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發表於 04-9-21 11:19 |只看該作者

Re: 天主教教友mame請進~~

Hello各位！
點解會為子女領洗？！當時無諗過，只知是應該要咁做，有點家族傳統，我自己是滿月那天領洗的，有時都諗個日做咩唔係同我擺滿月酒，而係去了領洗？而家回想，媽咪一定是認為領洗比滿月酒更重要，才會咁選擇。我地在教堂結婚行禮時承諾了會為子女洗禮的，我自己就覺得天主是美好的，我替小兒領洗，是想比一樣最好的東西他。
話時話，好奇怪！？琴日收到亞仔學校通告，有一開學感恩彌撒，是在課堂時候舉行的，到時會安排天主教同學參加，而其他同學會留在課室自由活動。覺得好奇怪，既然是天主教學校，何不全校同學一同參加，等其他不是教徒的同學都有機會接觸一下嘛….我以前讀的是天主教女校，是全校compulsory參與所有感恩彌撒的，攪咩亞仔學校唔係咁？！唉…唔怪得老公讀了十幾年，一點都沒有受到宗教薰陶，彌撒禮節一點都不懂！

剛才見有人係"小學雜談"問如何有"easy way to become a catholic?"真係好鬼嬲！點樣叫easy？點解D人覺得領洗易過去旅行！？ :evil: :evil:

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發表於 04-9-21 12:01 |只看該作者

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麟媽媽:

唔好咁嬲啦！嬲唔到咁多架！

其實如果教區有一套明確的規定讓所有聖堂一同執行, 就不會有人可以利用領洗去欺騙或謀取利益。講黎講去都係名牌效應,如果天主教學校不是名校...... 絕冇問題啦！

:mrgreen: 你以前都話哩d可能係種子....所以....有時很難去評斷的！

麟仔仔學校的安排, 會不會是聖堂/禮堂不夠大呢？如果不是, 便不應該嘛！好一個福傳的機會！若禮堂不夠大, 但還有座位, 其實都可以安排某一兩個年級的非教徒學生參與的。

你有沒有看9月12日那一期公教報, 余神父寫了一篇名為「總鐸, 你還可以做甚麼？」(p.19), 完全道盡所謂教會辦的天主教學校,對教會的不尊重。我看“校本條例”通過後, 會有更多問題產生！ :evil: :-( :-(

我提出這個領洗topic, 因為我有一些感受, 而這些感受我又剛巧在一本書內有相同的回應, 所以想大家一起分享吧！在未分享前, 讓其他媽咪都有時間想一想先啦！

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Re: 天主教教友mame請進~~

都係既...但咁樣公開問，有目的而做，確實對教會唔專重呢！

亞仔佢地是到華仁中學的教堂，不是在禮堂呢！加上他們每級只有2班，一至六年級都是12班之嗎！啊....會唔會同中學生一齊開彌撒呢？如果係又有可能唔夠位喎.....

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發表於 04-9-21 14:55 |只看該作者

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麟媽媽：

確實是有點對宗教的褻瀆與不敬添！「為此，我告訴你們：一切罪過和褻瀆，人都可得赦免；但是褻瀆聖神的罪，必不得赦免；凡出言干犯人子的，可得赦免；但出言干犯聖神的，在今世及來世，都不得赦免。」(瑪12:31)
唔回應佢免推高人氣指數罷啦！

現實一點講,我想,現在學生想不參加學校的感恩祭, 有大把理由, 只要校董會加入非公教徒的家長, 便可立例未領洗者不用/不可參加校內宗教活動。不要說我想得太灰, 事實如此呀！

如果大家沒有看過余神父的那篇文章, 讓我有空時post上來吧！(節錄某部份關於學校的)

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發表於 04-9-23 11:16 |只看該作者

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Hello all catholic moms,

I spent the spare time last week to read through this topic from the beginning and the key message brought to me is that I need to work hard on reading Bible. Actually, the sister in慕道班 has repeatedly reminded us to read Bible every day. I still didn’t have the commitment to do so. I will pray the God to give me the power.

jk67jk,

Although I am not a Catholic yet, I am prepared to let my son to be baptisted when he is qualified. The reason is that he will have his 原罪 and 本罪赦免 and be a member of 天國的子民. In addition, being his parents, it's our role to give him the best thing. I think being baptisted is a very big 恩寵.

Something to share for my reason for attending 慕道班.

About three years ago, my husband wanted to attend 慕道班 and become a Catholic. At that time, I had no intention to go with him because I thought that religion was very personal and should be from your heart rather than influenced by others. I just said I had no objection but would not go with him because I was not prepared. Due to some reasons, (I forgot), my husband did not join. One night, I suddenly thought that I wanted to understand our god and mentioned to my husband that I would join him if he attend 慕道班. He replied that he was more than happy to know my decision. I really did not have conscious reasons. I asked myself, 'Do you want to join because you want to get five marks for your son?' My answer is negative as I think it's a kind of 利用 God to achieve some material stuff and it is totally unacceptable to me.

Last year, my husband and I enrolled in 慕道班. We now go to Mass every Sunday usually with my son.

A very long message. I also want to share something later regarding attending mass with my son.

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發表於 04-9-23 15:33 |只看該作者

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Attending mass with my son

My husband has had reservation about bringing my son when we go to mass. The reason is, like many moms have mentioned, that my son may disturb others. Before I read the messages in this topic, I had the similar thinking. The sister in church previously advised my husband and I to go to mass even we hadn’t been baptisted. We did not do so because we needed to look after my son on Sundays.

Two months ago, we developed the habit of going to mass every Sunday and we brought our son too. We chose a seat which was very near to the exit. Thanks God, although he wandered around along the seat, he did not make much noise.

Last Friday, my husband felt like to thank God and said to me that he wanted to go to mass on Saturday. I suggested bringing my son too. However, my husband did not want to because he thought that Saturday night mass did not have many people. It would be very disturbing in case my son made noise. On Saturday morning, I saw the discussion here regarding the right of kid for attending mass. I forwarded the messages to my husband and eventually saw that Bible explicitly welcomed children. It was the Bible which changed my husband’s mind and agreed to let my son go.

However, it is a pity that my son did not go eventually because he slept late in the afternoon and could not catch the mass. Only my husband went to the mass.

Even so, I believe our attitude of letting my son go the mass has changed and thanks catholic moms for your sharing and enlightenment.

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Hi!

我不是天主教mami，不過自從bb出世後及一些經歷，便斷斷續續想多些了解這個上天之父，我以前是讀天主教學校的，家姐也是天主教徒，但是身邊很多朋友卻是基督徒，bb現在讀的幼兒園也是基督教，而且將會舉辦分別給父母及bb的主日研修及主日學，在現階段我有些少迷惘，天主教相對來說似乎較正統，但卻似乎缺乏了一點渠道，有點遙不可及。究竟我是不是應該去基督教還是天主教呢? 你們可否分享一下為其麼會入天主教，而不是基督教?

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發表於 04-9-23 19:53 |只看該作者

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YSmom,

Thanks for your sharing!

Baby2,

你這樣問, 要答你有點為難.

你問天主教徒, 當然天主教徒會對你說應該加入天主教; 你問基督教徒, 他們又當然說基督教好啦!

如要在天主教堂慕道, 一點也不難. 不需因為身邊的朋友是那一個教會, 便要跟著往某一教會的. 我是嬰孩領洗的, 所以不能分享我的選擇. 我介紹一個網頁給你看看 --->同根生進入後選擇 (I)基督教弟兄姊妹的分享; 及 (J) 該入那個教會.

了解多些吧! 雖然不能幫你選擇, 但希望你有機會認識彼此的分別與共通.

一個新世紀教友的獨白 <-- 這是一個adobe file.

:mrgreen: p.s. 你問我, 我當然會說入天主教啦!

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發表於 04-9-24 09:37 |只看該作者

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Perhaps let me share why I choose Catholic.

I have been believing in the existence of God since I was in Primary School. I studied in two 基督教 primary schools. I did not get baptisted because基督教 says that only when you become 基督徒, you will go to heaven. Otherwise, you will go to hell. My other family members are not 基督徒and I believe I do not have the ability to influence them to believe. I don’t want to go to Heaven myself only and prefer going to the hell with them.

Three years ago, my husband told me about his decision to Catholic and I asked him the view of Catholic in this respect. He said Catholic has different interpretation, i.e. whether a person is a Christian or not is not the only criteria to go to Heaven. (jk67jk, is this correct?) I also got similar message from Sister when I first joined the 慕道班. It is this point that I believe in Catholic.

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whether a person is a Christian or not is not the only criteria to go to Heaven.

You are right. 這好像是梵諦岡第二次大公會議之後的結論.

Baby2,

無論你如何選擇, 容我給點意見你。我覺得如果你最後不選天主教教會, 你應當去基督教的大派, 如浸信會、中華基督教會之類; 因為小教派的解經etc 不排除會有些小圏子或偏激, 若然你從未真正了解過基督宗教, 你沒有足夠能力去辨別是非曲直。如果你能對聖經先有些正統觀念後, 覺得需要加入一些細教會(有人覺得會親切些), 那時還未遲。

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Jk67jk,
Thanks !

你d資料好豐富，我會慢慢研究下! 我又報左bb讀緊間幼兒園ge福音班，屬於浸信會的，或者可以幫我了解多一點點。

YSMom
多謝你分享!
唔怪得我家姐之前同我講過係某種祈禱會中可以見到我地媽媽好安樂係天國啦! 我媽媽係信佛ge，我曾經擔心過li個問題，亦同你一樣都唔想第日只係自己入天堂，基於li個原因我會遲d去附近教堂睇下，但係唔知應該點做呢? ?-(

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Baby2,

你去聖堂, 可以參與主日彌撒, 去感受一下。如果有時間, 又可以試下參加慕道班, 入左慕道班, 唔一定要洗禮, 是去了解一個信仰, 明白聖經的道理而已。

有些堂區(聖堂)會有信仰小團體 – 類似基督教團契 – 都歡迎非教友參加聚會的。但是, 真的不多。如果遲下你有需要, 可以pm我, 我可以發放消息, 搵弟兄姊妹refer.

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