[quote]原文章由 彥彥媽咪 於 08-7-28 11:51 發表
thanks for your information. I have below further question:
miclui:
1) in consider of primary & secondary school which net is better: 64 or 65? I know 仁立小學&林護中學are quite famous in net 65
==> yes, they are hot school in the zone, but these are traditional schools which will mean 有一定既讀書壓力, 入得到當然都值得鼓舞, 但要有心理準備要去花時間陪太子讀書咁啦.
==> "要去花時間陪太子讀書". In my concept, it's a must and I don't think my kid would get high marks without my contribution. u emphasised this. do u mean it's 死讀書學校, 谷得好勁, 讀小d書就當你係異類...?how about 英華? 佢地行緊Edutainment, 會唔會學生同家長都無甘辛苦?
其實我係想搵間成績中上 (I mean average result), 而仔仔唔駛讀得甘辛苦. 自己都捱過, 死讀難讀好辛苦.
2)what do u think of solely boys' school and co-ed? as I'm thinking of 英華. If want to study英華, 有無邊間幼稚園有優勢?
==> 我一向較 buy co-ed 的, 只係 HK 地較有優勢既學校都係單性學校, 而我就唔係話一定非 co-ed 不讀既, cos this is not my top selection criteria...
--> my friend told me 英華今年有去佢仔仔間幼稚園招生, 所以問問
3)my house is the center point to Laichikok, Tsuen Wan and Kwai Tsing. it's takes only around 10 - 15mins for travelling there. I have heard some mummies recommened below kindergartens, would u pls give me some comments:
a)青衣宏福
b)聖公會荊冕士德
c)葵涌/荃灣浸信會
d)民生 (貪佢有得接小學, 近grandma)
another other good school recommend?
==> 你依家揀呢d 都係好多家長會揀架喇...我之前講過 (b) 同 (d) 既野都唔少 (喂..你有冇溫書..??) 當中除左民生有直升小學既"優勢"之外, 其他都係要考/抽小學既, so 你想知乜...?? 佢地好唔好讀..?? 我只可以講各有捧場客, 因為大家 make decision 既選擇唔同, 若你係問師資, 人數, 師生比例呀呢類數據性既野, 可以去教統局既全港幼稚園網樹揾到...你就咁講 give comments, 問題都好闊下, 如我早前都 give 過 comment 比另一d mama 咁, 你要諗諗你 selection criteria 中咩係 1st priority, 咩係 2nd ...之類先易揀的...就咁問, 我只可以講, 上面間間聽番黎小朋友都係讀得開心+OK ga.
-->我有溫書ga...hehehe......甘如果以有利於搵好ga小學, 邊間會好d? 若佢地都能讀得開心(即唔係死谷la), 甘邊間會學得多野d? 語文方面又如何? 我知佢地(宏福, 士德)都有外籍老師. 宏福是否較為活動教學?
"要去花時間陪太子讀書". In my concept, it's a must and I don't think my kid would get high marks without my contribution. u emphasised this. do u mean it's 死讀書學校, 谷得好勁, 讀小d書就當你係異類...?how about 英華? 佢地行緊Edutainment, 會唔會學生同家長都無甘辛苦?
==> 又問英華...好..又再答過 (最後一次)...我之前講過, 對新校 (英華小學係早兩年先開辦番, 小六生成績如何仍係要等睇過至知)但大家對林校長響協恩既成就非常欣賞, 佢亦好多時成日出黎分享教學心得, 令好多家長都好 buy 佢既一套, 所以好受家長歡迎, 上年轉直資錄得 17xx 人既高申請數字. 好唔好睇你 buy 唔 buy 佢個套, 你問我, 我會話無論你用 edutainment 定係 project work 都係 learning approach 既一種, 冇話邊種特別好, 好多時係睇個 facilitator 點用d material 同事後家校再做幾多 reinforcement 功夫而定, 不過, 肯用唔同 approach 去 stimulate learning 都算係一種有心既做法, 總好過幾廿年都係要學生仔坐定定聽書咁既. 若你喜歡佢既, 考下先啦, 收先再 detail 比較都未遲.:)
會唔會學生同家長都無甘辛苦?
呢點好睇家長對學生學習既期望有幾高而已. 想得到多d, 就要付出多d 架喇...有人 target 100 分 each time, 有人合格就得, 呢兩個人要付出既"辛苦" 都會有分別了.
我有溫書ga...hehehe......甘如果以有利於搵好ga小學, 邊間會好d?
==> 間間都 OK ar..因為好多好小學都係要抽既, 你讀邊間真係冇乜分別.
若佢地都能讀得開心(即唔係死谷la), 甘邊間會學得多野d? 語文方面又如何? 我知佢地(宏福, 士德)都有外籍老師. 宏福是否較為活動教學?
==> sorry, 我冇知得咁 detail about 呢幾間, 至於外籍老師..依家我睇 90% 既幼稚園都會有, 係有 how many hours 既外籍老師 響樹去教咁啦, 你問呢幾間我冇 exactly figures, guess you may need to ask those who are studying there right now. 咁會準d.
如考進其幼稚園是否可一勞永逸?
==> How do you define "一勞永逸" 先? 若你只係話可以唔駛考小學既, 咁我答案會係: "係", 但我心中"一勞永逸" 既定義會包埋"坐得暖個位" 同 "將來競爭力如何", etc... so 若係問呢點, 一條龍學校都唔會有呢個保証. 要"一勞永逸" 係要個"人" 得先有用, 唔係只係間學校得. 即係好似種花咁, 買到盆好花都 =/= 實好架嘛, 要日日淋水施肥佢先企得住腳嘛..."maintenance" is the key here....so in this case, 一條龍會唔會又令人少左一份競爭既動力呢?....我就呢方面係中立的, 冇話咁係好定唔好, 我只係想 bring out the other side of a coin for you to consider only.
請問如果讀私小, 係咪多數都會上私立既中學? 如果讀返政府個d, 係咪會好難適應? 好大分別?
==> 都冇好大分別既, 小朋友能力得先可以考得上好中學的 (no matter 係官津 or not), cos 小學考中學係睇實力, 要"門當戶對"的 (e.g. band 1 生 vs. band 1 中學), 唔大可能有 band 3 生可以上到 band 1 中學 ga wor (私人關係冇得講) , 所以, 考得入, 即係成績到得到個間中學既水平, 咁應唔會太大問題的.
我以前果陣就"中中停停", 而家就唔知, 所以咪問下你囉. especially係校風. 因為我99住西環, 都唔知好唔好博. If can get a chance, I personally like 聖心 more.
另外仲想問下你專業意見. 之前我有比個女睇電視, 12月到而家基本上無再比佢睇, so far ok, she won't ask for it(除非有人比左唔比我知). 但見有d教材其他媽媽話有用(your baby can read), 都有心郁郁想試. 不過又怕佢如果迷上電視就失多過得. 其實我屋企仲有套DWE, (人地比既舊野), 我都無比佢睇, 淨係比佢聽, so far佢就由細到而家都好鍾意睇書, what do you think in this case? should I not to start it again?
If can get a chance, I personally like 聖心 more.
==>咁你大可以去考聖心幼稚園, 再用呢個方法上佢私校個 part 小學 la...考得到咪去, 考唔到既, 考小一時再試多次, 唔得既就 consider back to you mother school la...
另外仲想問下你專業意見. 之前我有比個女睇電視, 12月到而家基本上無再比佢睇, so far ok, she won't ask for it(除非有人比左唔比我知). 但見有d教材其他媽媽話有用(your baby can read), 都有心郁郁想試. 不過又怕佢如果迷上電視就失多過得. 其實我屋企仲有套DWE, (人地比既舊野), 我都無比佢睇, 淨係比佢聽, so far佢就由細到而家都好鍾意睇書, what do you think in this case? should I not to start it again?
==> 唔太明你想問乜..你係想問你依家咁做有冇問題..?? 我見你話你阿女依家好鍾意睇書, 咁咪好囉! 你做得岩 bor...至於電視/VCD/DVD... 睇下冇問題既, 我認為問題既核心係要 teach 小朋友學識"控制", 即係"要唔睇就唔睇" 咁去唔睇一樣野 rather than 唔俾佢睇, 前者係 proactive controlling, 後者係 reactive avoiding.....人係要學懂控制自己咁會有用過唔俾d 唔好既野埋身就當搞掂, cos you could never control 外來既野 (as I always said before) , 人只可以 control 自己, 亦係最 effective.:mrgreen:
sorry my question sounded confused. actually I just wonder if those "material" really works (at least in some way), then if I should let my girl to go for it. I've read what you have dicussed on those materials, so just want to know if it's justify for her to learn something from those VCD but taking a risk that she may "fall in love" with tv. I know it's a matter of control, but it's not me who's the main care giver of my girl, it's my mom and helper, just don't think my mom will follow this coz she's the kind who thinks tv is fine...
I've read what you have dicussed on those materials, so just want to know if it's justify for her to learn something from those VCD but taking a risk that she may "fall in love" with tv.
==>我只可以講, 凡事必有得有失, 你又想佢睇, 又唔想佢 fall in love with TV...well...somehow 你唔覺得有d "貪心" 咩....? As I always said, 凡事 all got a price, it's just a matter if you are willing to take that price or not only. 即係...你認為就算佢 after that fall in love with TV, 但因為咁真係令語文有良好進展既...then 又何妨...?? 問題只係在於你認為 (1) 值唔值得? and.. (2) 有冇 other choices??... 而已....
so if 你又冇時間親自去湊佢, 家人又唔大幫到手 at this area...咁...坦白講...要俾佢睇都算係較好既做法架喇....情況就等於, 你又想揾工人湊小朋友, 因為自己冇時間, 但又唔想因為咁小朋友以後只痴工人唔痴你...etc...咁...針冇兩頭利嘛, right? So far 我亦唔覺得個個小朋友一睇就會迷哂上去個 TV 樹, 我之前既討論只係在於 "我唔認為睇個d materials 對語文幫助真係咁大 - provided there are no reinforcement after that, and ... in view of the $$$ involved too". 而你既然都已有了呢d materials 既, 就唔好 waste la....睇下都得丫.
I know it's a matter of control, but it's not me who's the main care giver of my girl, it's my mom and helper, just don't think my mom will follow this coz she's the kind who thinks tv is fine...
==>Well..let me try to analyze with you in this way: 你要先諗: 你俾得人地睇細路, 就真係要預左人地有人地既一套 which you cannot control too much.. 呢點人人都要好明白, so 既然係咁, 你就要 take the "price" 阿女可能因為咁就 likey TV more, 但...(1) 咁又如何? and (2) 咁又係唔係等於 nothing to change 呢..? Then 唔係既話, 你又何必介意?
若你真係介意, 咁就先唔好問 "用唔用 material", cos this is not the ROOT problem, 你真係介意小朋友會 likey TV 而唔好既話, (雖然 no proof so far 真係咁就唔好), 咁要 "改" 既就唔係 "俾唔俾小朋友睇 TV" , 而係 "俾唔俾你阿媽湊", 因為呢個先係 fundmental problem, 你要做既係 align 你兩個既 values, 乜係好乜係唔好, 好明顯係兩母女都唔一致, 咁行為就梗係唔一樣喇, 而 somehow this relates to 你 decision criteria 既 priorities ar....唔好話阿媽喇...有時就算同屋兩公婆對教細路都可以唔同喇, right?
亦因此, 人人睇一件事 ranking 都唔同, 你認為"好重要"既野係人地眼中可以係不值一哂的, so 咁你就要問自己, which one you care more? and 係唔係唔同之後所做出黎既野就一定冇較好既補救既 way 呢...? etc...all these will affect your "ranking" to certain decision criteria 架嘛...
so in this case, 你若暫時都唔可以唔倚賴老人家幫手既, then somehow 有d 野你都要 "預左" 架喇...能夠做既, 就係 maybe "勸" 老人家唔好俾佢日日睇咁啦...not much you can do, right? 而我亦好明白 decision somehow is hard here for most families. Somehow 要 align value 去到 "做唔做一樣野" (俾唔俾小朋友睇 TV) 一定難過 align "做個樣野幾耐好" (俾佢睇幾耐), 可以先試從後者出發, 慢慢再步向前者 that may sound easier.
I hope I have made myself clear to you about my thoughts here la