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侯爵府

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發表於 09-6-1 14:02 |只看該作者
原帖由 bbiloveyou 於 09-6-1 13:50 發表


Agree, Hong Kong has too many social problems not yet solved. The govt should use the public money in a more sensible way. At least, the poor and the elderly should be rendered assistance first!


how about 呃綜緩果班人呢?

果班係明呃


男爵府

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發表於 09-6-1 14:10 |只看該作者
佢咁有進心係好好, 但唔係用我地d hk納稅人嘅錢囉!!! 呢d錢係比我地d本土嘅土生土長嘅少數民族用嘅!!!

有地唔係大慈善家, 來者不拒!





原帖由 54heima 於 09-6-1 13:01 發表


甘人有上進心為自己將來打算都冇錯既...


水晶宮

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43#
發表於 09-6-1 14:32 |只看該作者
唉...我都轉為反對...連外傭去政府醫院免費睇病都反對...因為這是比香港納稅人享用的...
:lol
少奶奶的身份,丫頭的命...


男爵府

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44#
發表於 09-6-1 14:36 |只看該作者
原帖由 54heima 於 09-6-1 14:32 發表
唉...我都轉為反對...連外傭去政府醫院免費睇病都反對...因為這是比香港納稅人享用的...
:lol


welfare 不僅是香港納稅人享用的, 是香港國民享用的


大宅

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45#
發表於 09-6-1 14:52 |只看該作者
when i saw this from the news last night, my first reaction was yelling...

why do we need to spend money to train those who don't need to pay tax and don't need contribute to our society...


HK goverment...chi chi day


男爵府

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46#
發表於 09-6-1 14:56 |只看該作者
政府個department可能有效冇地方使,咪諗d屎橋fing $,如果dcourse要收正價,睇吓d`姐仲有冇上進心
低能政府


大宅

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47#
發表於 09-6-1 15:02 |只看該作者
原帖由 54heima 於 09-6-1 12:04 發表


同意...
我不反對哩個政策...外傭也可享用部分社區服務...暫且放下外傭質素果D麻煩議題...外傭是否對香港有貢獻...客觀講我覺得有羅...起碼也叫"識"放左部分婦女人口的勞動力...不要局限住永久居民非永久居民...非 ...

如果香港人移民...去到外國羅個PR一樣可以得到各種社區支援...無論你是否永久居民&是否納稅...



I don't know about other countries, but for Canada, as immigrant, you have to pay tax before you 得到各種社區支援....and also for citizen, if you are non-resident citizen who doesn't need to pay tax, you also have no right to 得到各種社區支援 when you go back for vacation.


侯爵府

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好媽媽勳章 大廚勳章


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發表於 09-6-1 15:33 |只看該作者
原帖由 kj803 於 09-6-1 15:02 發表



I don't know about other countries, but for Canada, as immigrant, you have to pay tax before you 得到各種社區支援....and also for citizen, if you are non-resident citizen who doesn't need to pay ta ...
唉…度黎度去度下艱難大又度下香港咁又如何。其實新設施對於d不受切身影响者(可能不駛憂柴憂米,就自不然慷慨解郎d。對d猛猛緊既僱主、或被逼害過者,就梗係睇得負面,度黎度去。自然現像。

How I wish I can host a party for my maid to join everyday, if I have so much extra money to make them happy!!!

我少時侯做過實驗証明,一班飽受精神折麿既白老鼠,一見什幺風吹草動,就立即起哂摃。而一班平時無事無幹,養到肥肥白白的,一天給拿出來劏左(做biology dissection)都唔知咩事。。僱主就好比白老鼠。The reason for such big differnce in our stand is that both batches are having very different and extreme conditions.

[ 本帖最後由 pollyw 於 09-6-1 16:30 編輯 ]


侯爵府

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發表於 09-6-1 15:38 |只看該作者
原帖由 kj803 於 09-6-1 15:02 發表



I don't know about other countries, but for Canada, as immigrant, you have to pay tax before you 得到各種社區支援....and also for citizen, if you are non-resident citizen who doesn't need to pay ta ...

講講下, 講到加拿大甘遠
如果要同加拿大黎比
不如拿綜緩果班人黎比先啦
佢地都係對社會無貢獻架
都係未納過稅架
但因為佢地的仔女係'香港人', 可以享用綜媛
住滿七年, 更加可以大條道理甘拿tim啦
如果要同加拿大比, 呢樣野更加吾fair


男爵府

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發表於 09-6-1 16:07 |只看該作者
即使唔用加拿大來講, 我相信無一個国家或城市會咁替d傭著想囉, 乜都要照顧周到連倍訓都要take care埋!

如果囉綜媛d人來比較, 我返而條氣顺d, 起碼佢地將來d仔女都係唔多唔少要在hk讀書,工人,長遠嘅貢獻係有嘅, 佢地當中固然有些扮惨大食懒, 但有好多都真係好惨嘅, 對佢地施以幫助我都同意!

hk嘅福利又關d外傭乜事呢? 點解我地要比d錢佢地增值? 如果佢地真係咁想學野就應自已比錢去學啦! 如僱主要佢學野, 便由僱主付款而唔係由公家去康慨啦!


複式洋房

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51#
發表於 09-6-1 16:18 |只看該作者
尋晚o係電視睇完呢段新聞.....我只有一個反應....真係好好笑!! 哈哈....呢個咩世界呀!!!


** http://hk.myblog.yahoo.com/Man-Fish **


大宅

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發表於 09-6-1 16:24 |只看該作者
"外傭對香港有貢獻" ,某程度上我同意的. "如果香港人移民...去到外國羅個PR一樣可以得到各種社區支援." 這點用來同外傭比較是錯的. 移民/ 做PR要交稅,有很多公民責任:交稅,當兵,.........;所以也有公民權利--------例如:各種褔利/緩助,選舉權,享免費教育,國際上的身份(國藉)........ 外傭只是用working visa來港,不是PR (permanent resident ),外傭不是公民身份(雖然有ID card) ,除自己份工外並無須/無負一點公民責任; 何來須予公民權呢? 多多思考:權利與責任問題!!!!!!!!! 重有身份的問題! [quote]原帖由 54heima 於 09-6-1 12:04 發表


同意...
我不反對哩個政策...外傭也可享用部分社區服務...暫且放下外傭質素果D麻煩議題...外傭是否對香港有貢獻...客觀講我覺得有羅...起碼也叫"識"放左部分婦女人口的勞動力...不要局限住永久居民非永久居民...非 ... [/quote]

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禁止訪問

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發表於 09-6-1 16:39 |只看該作者
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大宅

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發表於 09-6-1 17:01 |只看該作者
有ID card 唔等同是永久居民架.又係錯解左有ID card=PR!
原帖由 54heima 於 09-6-1 12:51 發表


甘你要了解下香港的移民政策...香港是冇PR制度的...一張ID就是居留權等同PR...只不過所有在港工作的外籍人士(包括外傭)他們的居留權跟返工作簽證... ...

[ 本帖最後由 qqqqqq 於 09-6-1 17:40 編輯 ]


別墅

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發表於 09-6-1 17:15 |只看該作者
個個印傭係樹話嚟學野, 仲要學電腦同英文, 因為番家鄉都用得著......IT SHOULD BE ASK THEIR GOVERNMENT GIVE THEM MONEY TO LEARN LA


大宅

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56#
發表於 09-6-1 19:17 |只看該作者
I also against that our government is so generous on giving the 綜緩 to those 未納過稅拿綜緩non-hong kong人....they are obviously taking advantages from ordinary Hong Kongers....

but what can we do? since our goverment has been working so hard to make them access to HK easily, more and more of them will come to take more and more advantages from us...HK will be collapsed very soon~

原帖由 hinhinmummy 於 09-6-1 15:38 發表

講講下, 講到加拿大甘遠
如果要同加拿大黎比
不如拿綜緩果班人黎比先啦
佢地都係對社會無貢獻架
都係未納過稅架
但因為佢地的仔女係'香港人', 可以享用綜媛
住滿七年, 更加可以大條道理甘拿tim啦
如果要同加拿大比, ...


大宅

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57#
發表於 09-6-1 19:22 |只看該作者
but i'm from the group of 飽受精神折麿既白老鼠,not those平時無事無幹,養到肥肥白白的,so I shouldn't encounter一天給拿出來劏左~



原帖由 pollyw 於 09-6-1 15:33 發表
唉…度黎度去度下艱難大又度下香港咁又如何。其實新設施對於d不受切身影响者(可能不駛憂柴憂米,就自不然慷慨解郎d。對d猛猛緊既僱主、或被逼害過者,就梗係睇得負面,度黎度去。自然現像。

How I wish I can host a p ...


別墅

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發表於 09-6-1 20:19 |只看該作者
學英文同电腦有咩用?不如,改上陪月班la!學吓煮飯,湊BB,學中文.未學行先學走,可能$100 for 10堂,都末上哂已經返歸.
學煮飯同中文,可以增加政府收入,因為1000堂都唔会識


複式洋房

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發表於 09-6-1 20:39 |只看該作者
咪係囉, 學下煮飯, 對老板應有態度, 禮貌, 湊仔, 專業清潔好過啦....學電腦去搵份文識做咩....香港政府真係博愛呀


別墅

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發表於 09-6-1 20:40 |只看該作者
[quote]原帖由 bbiloveyou 於 09-6-1 13:50 發表


Agree, Hong Kong has too many social problems not yet solved. The govt should use the public money in a more sensible way. At least, the poor and the elderly should be rendered assistance first! [/quote
Totally agree. Firstly, domestic helper is not HK resident. We hv sufficient law to protect them. There is no reason to spend extra money to train them which does not help their working. The help for 少數族裔 should be the one they hv whole family in HK and they or children are born in HK. HK Government should not take the responsibility of domestic helper's government andspend money to offer benefit to them. It is totally non-sense. Our society still hv a lot of social problems that are not solved and need money from government. Should spend money in wise way. Is there any way to express our opinion and say no to the government ?

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