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彥彥媽咪
我都好期待" 培正既小學篇". 有無考慮另開一個 topic 呀?


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彥彥媽咪,

我好欣賞你咁熱心呀 ,比我呢個失魂媽咪識多d野。

之不過我阿女做功課都仲未建立得好專心,我都好 呀!

我想問下大彥識自己閱讀嗎?佢英文好嗎?佢學什麼英文班呀?


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彥媽
wow!!! you r really great!! thank you very much for your support, encouragement and advice!! and ur analysis!

I have to admit that we (our family) were too loose to my boy in the past 2 years, so he is really very naughty (so we really can't believe PC will accept him!! )

I also told myself to put more effort on him, we have seen that he has great improvement indeed eg previously he would like to hit ppl becoz he can't express well and he didn't know the correct way to greet ppl, now he like to say hello and kiss ppl instead of hitting them after our repeated teaching; he would like to throw things out of the window but now he knows it's not good to do that; what we know is he act/ behave well in nursery school (but naughty at home) I know he's improving

what we believe is that we have to train him well to set a good example for my younger son
==> so I think you r really brave to have the 3rd one!!

但注意既係同一方法唔可以長時間同樣使用, 係一次罰佢企, 下次再罰佢分分鐘已"慣"左, 就唔覺個種係 "罰", 個效用 will lost somehow... 總之成日要用唔同花款對佢, 間唔時先 repeat 番, 等佢有"切膚之痛", 下次就唔敢
==> agree, next time I have to change a new one;
I find that 沒收玩具 is not workable on him la

你每日都親自接番佢教佢睇佢, 唔係冇得救既...仲有, then Sat/Sun 就多d 親自 train 番小朋友, 俾佢群多d有規律既 family 同小朋友, 等佢可以"有樣學樣" 番d...慢慢就會好轉...
==> maybe what u analyse (from another side) is right and I have to 多d 親自 train 番小朋友

要識得 control 慾望, 唔係乜都睇到就要擁有, 要懂得滿足已有之物, 而唔係只會追求無盡既野....wa...easy to talk, difficult to do ga....
==> agree! and it's not easy to train them

Welcome to discuss and share la ===> thank you very much!!!


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aprilk:

BUT don't know if she can go pp independently yet?!
==>你放心, 真係講你都唔信架...小朋友幾倚賴幾痴身都好, 一開始番 N1 好快就會好識好多自理既野, including 自己 eat, 舉手 wee wee, 自己去 wee wee/ng ng ...etc....雖然唔係 perfect 啦, 但真係好過自己教好多架..

不過你係要學識"忍"呀...即係小朋友一番學個時極大可能係喊餐死, 扯實你唔俾你走, 個樣見你走就好可憐個個款..你要抵得至好, 好多家長就係過唔到呢關同個小朋友一齊喊埋一份, 返學搞到好似生離死別咁..我都俾佢地笑死...
(唔係我有幾個仔先咁講, 當年大彥返 N1, 我一滴眼淚都冇流過..有乜好喊喎...又唔係一世唔見)... 家長就係要學識 let go ma...自己d EQ 都唔掂, 點 influence the kid?





:mrgreen:



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Lulu0820

先多謝你大駕光臨, 有失遠迎呀....恕罪, 恕罪~~

我聽過有今年小二既家長講有人讀唔掂轉左校,希望個個唔好係我個女!
==> 係丫, 唔止你聽過, 又唔止係 P2, 我知有人 P3 都轉走左, 因為"搞唔掂", 不過我又唔係想嚇人.."搞唔掂" 唔一定等於讀唔掂既, it may be 家長有更好既 choice, or 真係覺得佢地阿仔/女更 fit in other teaching mode la..係冇..?? 而你聽到多係 P2/P3 轉走除左因為搞唔掂而走之外, 最重要係你要知, 一般學校 P3 之後唔容易收插班生, 因為要收一定會收最好個d 學生 (in terms of 操行, 成績), 呢點好易諗點解...去得 P4, P5 打後, 唔成績好先收, 一陣整個唔得既入嚟拖抵哂個派位成績, 咁間小學點搞..??

So 官僚d 睇, 好多學校都會為自己"打算"架嘛...so that's why 一係唔轉校, 係轉就早轉, 除非真係成績 super 勁, 有特異功能個d 就幾時轉都咁受歡迎..

當然, 都可以轉去d Band 2, 3 school ge...個d 都唔敢太計較喇...但...你又唔想俾阿仔/女轉去個d ge je..right?


想問吓大彥平時多唔多功課?大約要幾耐完成?
==> 其實學校個 timetable 每日都有d "功課堂"之類既時間, 小一生仲會係開頭時有d 高年級既學兄學姐嚟幫手指導佢地做功課同抄家課冊 (嘩...真係攞命架, 成日抄漏野, 抄錯野架, 搞到有功課就唔知要做, 做又做漏, 死未.. :tongue: )

==> 依家一日平均都 5, 6 樣功課 (未計有d project ar gum) , 一般我大彥都已響學校 complete 到 3, 4 樣, 之但係d細路響學校做個d 通常都係為左"快d有得玩"而做, 即係寫字都寫到打哂風, 所以好多時 back home 要俾我擦左佢再改架..so if 小朋友乖乖地響學校做個d 企企理理就真係唔係要花 too long time to continue at home ga....(不過都幾難... :mrgreen: :mrgreen: ), 而且老師對筆劃, 格式 etc 都好嚴謹, 小小寫得個劃唔直, 個點唔出, 都要改正架, 所以都唔到我呢個阿媽執得唔緊啦...係冇...??

==> 若我大彥放學後冇課外野返, 一般 4:xx pm 就 back home, then 多數 6pm 前就已搞掂 all homework 等大姐姐嚟幫佢 check + revise ga la...之後 at night 就可以 relax 下, if 有課外野都多數 5:30pm 後就 back home, then 就 work till 7:xxpm 咁啦....唔太忙既..

我只係想keep住放學同佢去公園做30mins運動姐....
==> 哦...30 mins only ji ma...實有既咁又, no worry...不過你真係要諗定幫佢 supplement 一d academic D 既野會好d...

==> 數我依家俾佢學"學林數", this is much better than KUMON..我 K2 , K3 就俾佢學 KUMON, 但KUMON上小一唔多岩, 你個係女, 數要操得更多 (多數女d數係比仔弱架嘛..) 培正出名數理係最強..so better start drilling that , 真係都幾深 ga...(因為我d 數都係最渣, 所以最怕第日幫唔到阿仔了...呵呵...)


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loverbaby:

hehe...Welcome 你又嚟 here ar...!!

有無考慮另開一個 topic 呀?
==>唔駛啦, 我地依家呢樹都好多朋友仔, 彥媽好心足了..


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Ellensu:

我想問下大彥識自己閱讀嗎?
==> 我從來冇 drill 佢去閱讀, 我由細都係乜都掉哂出嚟, 玩具, 書本, etc..由佢自己揀, 佢細時唔多睇書, 依家反而成日拎住嚟睇, 依家佢睇緊"西遊記" 同 "水滸傳", 都有睇"叮噹", 基本上我冇要求佢一定要睇乜, 但我就講明:

1) 唔得睇個d 打打殺殺個d 圖書
2) 一係唔睇, 睇唔得只睇公仔, 要去 try 睇字, 寧可睇到唔識時問我, 我亦間唔時會拎住佢本書同佢講下個故仔, 慢慢教下佢

so far 佢依家都幾 likey 去 library (我地屋企去 public library 又近嘛...), so 佢都算佢可以專注既人, 不過有時都係心散架 (一有 other attractions 就唔記得自己做緊乜...)


佢英文好嗎?佢學什麼英文班呀?
==> 講英文佢唔夠中彥好, 起碼佢冇中彥咁夠膽講, 呢點我都要下下功夫, so far 佢讀, 寫, 講, 都叫 OK, 但就係唔主動去用, 呢點係學語文一個好大既 obstacle, 我依家都成日要此諗計仔點令佢多肯去用, 只有用得多先有進步

==> 依家佢 join 緊培正d 課外英語班, 但成效一般, 叫做有d 人 drill 下佢咁 ga ja....唔好 too high expectation, 所以我打算想俾佢去學 (以前有學, 但早前 stop 左) phonetics 為主, 但因為我對語文教學既師資都幾有要求, 所以我依家仲 search 緊一d 我認為靠得住既學校先去報, 唔想 waste $$ (same as PTH), 我又唔急, 不過嚟緊都要發力了

==> Most likely 我會 go for Cambridge English, 但要揾間 reliable 既 training centre, 講到語文, 彥媽都幾眼角高架...個d ya ya 烏又話學校既我見唔少, 求其揾個鬼佬就話教英文個d我唔信架...so 就係揾緊人 refer, 再唔係就會 try contact 我依家公司入面我用緊佢地 train 我地 D senior executives 個 D 人/training centre, see if they can get me good referrals.



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HI 彥媽

點解你話"學林數"上小一唔多岩?

你有冇比仔仔學過"珠心算"呀? 我見坊間有好多, 之前仔仔3歲時, 本來想send佢去學下, 不過, 諗諗下好似太細, 最後都冇lu.

如果你找到好的(1) phonetics & (2)Cambridge English , 可否介紹給我們? 有冇聽過whampoa的candian English workshop , okay嗎?

THANK YOU


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彥媽,

我都想知學乜野數學同英文好呀 , 事實上英文班好多又貴又唔好的!我女唔喜歡公文式,你有資料話我地知啦!佢d數學都一般咋。

過兩招點train maths la....

phonetics -- how do you compare with phonics???

Cambridge English -- is it dull? 係乜野黎架?

Your super fans --- Ellen


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kingkow:

點解你話"學林數"上小一唔多岩?
==> 唔係呀..sorry, 手文之誤也 (我都改番上面先) , 我係話 Kumon 唔岩上小一呀....Kumon 好處在於重覆性地操練, 但我話佢係"好處" 係在於佢呢種 repeated exercises 既形式可以訓練小朋友既自立能力 - 自己做練習, 唔駛人下下篤住個停, 內容方面就以不停操練重覆性既 + , - 數為主, 最初就好 (對乜都唔識個d, e.g. 我地培幼d 數就係好淺), so at that time 可以俾到大彥一個 foundation 去 learn d 深d既 maths...

但另一方面, 小一數好多係著重 logical reasoning, interpretation, 對解題, 了解整個 logic 有好高既要求, Kumon 響呢方面我睇到唔夠學林數做得全面 (Selin) 學林數既出現根本就係按 HK 小學既 syllabus 而 design, 你可以話佢好似好 exam oriented (因為真係同d 學校數好似), 但正面d睇, 佢唔止係幫我地考好個試既, 而係真係多了解唔同既數學應用, 對佢地將來上中學再接觸d science subjects (phy, chem, bio) 會有幫助

另一方面, 奧數 - 呢樣係一門再深一層次既數學, 佢學既唔係解難咁簡單, 而係去 develop 好多, theories 點 prove, 數學既起源, 分析等等, 對一d 真係響數學好有天份而又有興趣既小朋友就會更有幫助, 現階段大彥只係小一, 奧數要學亦要 6 歲以上較佳 (唔好信d 話 K2 奧數, 真係有d多餘, 唔係乜都要早學就有著數架, 係 need 同 ability 既配合, 真係唔好心急), so 依家 Selin 已可應付, 但我會 further observe 佢對數既接受同能力去到邊再考慮是否佢岩去上奧數啦...

珠心算係另一種數學模式, 冇錯小一已要學心算 (我大彥都要, 考試都有考) , 但我會認為佢就係較"單一"既 training mode la...數學有好多範疇, 心算, +, - 呢d只係 one of them, so 珠心算 could only cater one of those things, 以依家大彥有咁多野都要學既情況, 我會主張每科最多學一樣相關既課外活動已足夠, so 佢學得 selin 我就唔打算再要佢去珠心算了, 除非佢自己真係好想啦, 但 so far 佢又冇要求 wor...

之前仔仔3歲時, 本來想send佢去學下, 不過, 諗諗下好似太細, 最後都冇lu.
==> 唉...都係個句, 彥媽一向唔主張太細就學呢樣學個樣, esp those academic stuff, 以前我大彥都學唔少, 但就係 now look back 發覺好多錢係白花而無乜成效既, have you read my passages earlier in this forum? 我都有講過好多野, 真的, 年紀唔夠就係唔夠, 唔好笠亂聽d 學校講話幾個月就要學乜乜乜.....依家太多學校響以 profit making 為己任多過真係有教育既熱誠啦....要呃d 家長錢真係話都冇咁易... :evil: 再者, 學得早 =/= 學得好, 相對地, 學得遲 =/= 我識得慢, 年紀大d腦筋思維發展得好d, 學乜都會快, 我絕對唔認為4, 5 歲先學咁叫"蝕底"啦...

如果你找到好的(1) phonetics & (2)Cambridge English , 可否介紹給我們?
==> sure, 有好野實同大家講, 不過我份人好均真, 過得人先過得自己, 其實我有試過好多, 都有好多 good friends give me a lot of referrals, 不過我要真係見過間學校, 睇過佢地教材, even 俾阿仔試埋, 再 evaluate 阿仔有冇 learned change 我先可以 comment 到間野好定唔好架...所以..有時彥媽 lazy 就 dum dum 下咁唔係成日揾啦, 所以咪催我呀...嘻嘻...揾到試過就會報料 here ~~

有冇聽過whampoa的candian English workshop
==> 冇...不過你可以八d佢d course 比我聽係乜...? 乜人教? 幾錢..? duration? 教乜..etc? 又嚟齊齊研究下...


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joanthony:


請問你係屋企同大彥係咪只係講英文 ?
==> 唔係, 基本上我係屋企係講廣東話 only, 係同要聽英文個d 人 (e.g. 工人) 先用英文, 我冇刻意用英文去同d仔講, 因為我唔係想佢地第日個個變哂鬼仔, (我有個 friend 就係咁, 一出世只同個女講英文, 依家個女 5 歲, 唔肯講中文了, 甚至嫌中文麻煩, 搞到依家個阿媽又頭痕點令佢識多d 中文, 攞命...), 我始終都係要d仔懂中文, 而且學好中文遠較學好英文為之困難, 中文將來既應用亦會比英文更有過之而無不及地普及, 所以我唔想只灌佢地英文...

想當年我阿媽阿爸都唔識英文, 更遑論同我講英文喇...咁依家我咪一樣用英文世界各地咁去講書??!! so you can see, 學好英文一定仲有 other ways ge...而唔係一定要成屋都講先得既...

char 開又講丫...有時我響街見到有d家長用英文同bb講野, well...雖則我唔支持, 但我都認為要講都冇問題既, a matter of choice only la...但怪就怪在, 個家長自己d英文都發音唔正, or even 只講單字, complete sentence 都欠奉, 咁又真係 so I really wonder 佢地d小朋友會學到d乜野英文.....

記得你之前講過佢同二/細仔比較講野方面慢d因為你係佢細時係又中又英 ?
==> 係...你記性真係唔錯, 中彥當年因又中又英, 所以講說話既速度真係唔多快, 成 1x 個月先講野, 慢過大彥, 我有研究過係唔係中英夾雜令佢有此情況, 我依家既觀察係: 有, 有少少, 但主要原因唔係在於中英夾雜, 而係佢根本比大彥少好多機會要佢講野係主因, 因為中彥係工人湊為主, 工人並唔會成日同佢講野, 更遑論引導佢開聲, 所以好多時佢都係自己一個人玩, 睇 TV/DVD, 係我地放工 back home 先叫同佢講多d, 因此佢響語言學習方面比大彥慢 (大彥好多咀, 表達能力亦比佢強, 呢點同佢當年係姑媽湊, 成日同佢去街, 大把人響佢身邊講野有關) .. 表達亦唔算叻...

但平心而論, 佢語言天份好過大彥, 因為佢自少睇同接觸唔少英文, e.g. 睇 DVD 佢會 accept 聽 English channel, even though 佢唔係 100% 明, 但大彥就死要聽 Chinese channel ga...所以大彥識聽講, 但就要迫到埋身就講...反而中彥唔駛迫, 我用英文問佢, 佢會自然識用英文答我架 (大彥唔肯架, 死要我講番中文, 即係顯示佢對英文較中文抗拒啦)


希望再進一步分享你呢一方面既心得/經驗 (我個仔11個月, 而家成日講bb 話, 但仲未識叫我 (叫過下daddy), 不過係屋企入面d野
==> 首先你要接受, "仔"既語文能力一向係真係比"女"慢, 呢點係事實, 我睇番我三個仔同人地年齡相若既女真係差得幾遠....so 有d 野都係冇得急, 時間一到佢地就會做到, 真的, 呢點我響中彥身上最睇到, 當年佢好遲講野, 搞到我地不知幾擔心 (尤其大彥唔係咁架嘛..好快就好多野講), 以為佢唔識講野添喇...但當我係佢 2 years old 時送佢去 N1 (你都可以考慮下, 對令小朋友開氣真係好有效) 冇耐, 因為有 peer influence 同老師幫, 佢講野突然間就快左好多了, 依家 almost 4 la...嘩....我有時真係想叫佢停口添呀 (真係講唔停~~ ), so see....?? 比d時間啦, 11 個月 still not too bad ar...我細彥依家 10 個月都係一味"打' "打" "打" 咁 ga ja....

你想佢快d講野, 你地可以試下多d 同佢傾偈 (chinese 又好, English 又好), 講既時候 make sure he is looking at you, then 你用慢速講, 等佢可以留意到你 lips 既郁動, then 佢就會 learn from there ga....仲要 repeat, 唔好怕煩, 多做會有 help....


証明佢都唔係唔明我地講野
==> dun hurry la...11 months ja wor....俾d時間佢同你地自己, 我成日都講, even 依家佢唔夠同齡 bb learn 得快, 咁都唔代表佢第日唔夠人嚟架, 路遙先知馬力, 走著瞧嘛~~俾d信心 both you and BB la...

但唔係太聽指令...
==> 規矩就要慢慢教啦, 對 3 歲以下既 BB, 依家你可以做既係 give instructions, 即係佢岩你笑, 拍手, 唔岩你打手仔 or 比個 unhappy 樣佢睇, 佢會明架...唔駛解釋, 因為佢唔會明, 呢個階段主要係去強化佢一d 可接受既行為同制止佢一d 唔岩既行為為主, 靠不斷重覆要佢 follow. 比心機啦...


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Re: 彥媽與你 BB 讀書/學習交流站

彥彥媽咪,

彥彥媽咪 寫道:
Lulu0820

先多謝你大駕光臨, 有失遠迎呀....恕罪, 恕罪~~


你唔好咁客氣啦!攪到人地鬼咁唔好意思! 其實我成日睇你個forum,因為真係好有用! 由其是而家train個細女,d方法同以前對個大女真係有d唔同,所以彥媽你要繼續呀!寫多d心得分享,等我地有多d參考!

再一次多謝你既提點!我都有聽過學林數,但由於$$所限 ,暫時都唔會學住,可能等到暑假先開始!

有好既英文班真係要分享吓!其實都想問吓係咪我地過份擔心?因為都聽人講過話培正d英文教得一d都唔差,但我見十個有九個讀培正既學生都補英文,(有個例子係上午返培正,下午返英基!)係比中文學校個名嚇親定真係有需要?彥媽又點睇?

Lulu
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Re: 彥媽與你 BB 讀書/學習交流站

彥彥媽咪 & other moms,

你地既小朋友肯做課外習作嗎?佢地識唔識做架?

我阿女唔like writing :-( :-( ,如果等上小一先算,會唔會大圍人做,佢會做呢?佢真係冇心機做PC以外既exercise呀!


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Re: 彥媽與你 BB 讀書/學習交流站

彥彥媽咪
終於刨完68pages, 謝謝您的分享, 資料真係好有用.... 不禁由衷的一句"佩服"
I am planning to send my bb to 油天 as I was a graduate and I got 20 分 on hand. Is that good enough?
As I read through, not much discussion is on DGS. Can you give some advice if I want to prepare my girl for DGS? say, if luckily i can enter 油天, how about the chance of getting into DGS? (In the good old days, I was able to enter DGS through this channel).
If start from scratch (say from KG up), how can I prepare my girl to enter DGS?
I personally prefer to enter 油天 first as I think that it is a very good PS and I don't want to send my girl to 貴族學校 so early.
By the way, any comment on the government / DSS primary schools in Discovery Bay besides IS / ESF? I am now living in TKO but may consider to move to Discovery Bay? How about the 校網?
One more question: what is your opinion of placing the child in girls' / boys' school starting from primary school. Will this effect their behaviour with same / opposite sex in the future?

Really appreciate your reply!!!


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彥媽
我都黎報到先.

我都讚成你所講, 要係k2/k3 時比佢地知道咩係默書, 背書等, 等佢地上到小學易d適應.


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借彥媽一個小角問問....

SUSANNA,

你女兒是讀培正嗎?咁佢k2/k3能默書, 背書嗎?你是如何準備她上小一呢?我唔係好識點去準備,阿女成績只是一般!好彩有彥媽既資料和鼓勵,我先識同人傾下是有幫助的。

Lulu0820,

你孩子又係K3嗎?可否教路點準備下佢呢?我阿女唔係好專注,所以我好擔心佢上小一時,我兩都辛苦。


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Re: 彥媽與你 BB 讀書/學習交流站

ykkwoka:

Good...good! 先讚你乖乖先...彥媽最欣賞d人識睇哂, 諗下先然後再問架....因為咁大家先知頭知路丫嘛...辛苦哂.....見你睇得咁有 heart, 一定詳細答你....

I am planning to send my bb to 油天 as I was a graduate and I got 20 分 on hand. Is that good enough?
==> Your BB is a 2nd kid? 因為 if 係 1st kid, then 15 + 10 (舊生) 應有 25 分, 唔係 20 分噃, 20 分個d 多數係 15 + 5 (宗教) 既....你再計多次..?? 不過..if really 20 then chance 面係一般 only, cos quite a lot of 20 分人架....25 分就爭好遠...不過因為油天既 old boys/girls 都唔少, so 以我知都好似要抽....但 chance 好大...要睇你小朋友入學個年多唔多此類人了....


As I read through, not much discussion is on DGS. Can you give some advice if I want to prepare my girl for DGS? say, if luckily i can enter 油天, how about the chance of getting into DGS?
==> 你問 DGJS (女拔小) 定真係 DGS (女拔中) 先..?? 因為大家個 system 唔同, if you ask about DGJS, then 入油天同考 DGJS 係 two different things, 因為油天係 subsidized school, 要計分搞珠, DGJS 係 private school, 純粹考入去就算架喎.....so 入唔入到油天同考唔考到 DGJS 係冇關係架喎....

若你問既係入左油天, 對第日升 DGS 有冇幫助, 咁我會話 chance 唔大, 除非小朋友有超級特異功能喇 (即係一係成績勁超班, or 運動好醒個停), 因為 DGS 同 DGJS 係結龍-ed , so most of the DGS students come from DGJS, 收外來生既位唔會好多, 所以冇番咁上下特異功能都幾難得 DGS 垂青, 所以想入 DGS 一定要由入 DGJS 開始

so if you are asking 點入 DGJS, 我都好難答你, 出面有 N 個"統計", Y 種推敲 (話要 full time mom 先收, 有錢先收, etc etc) , 但冇一種係 reliable 既, 因為真係乜人都有機會收, 但我會較信 (1) 個囡首先一定要醒, 唔係指好叻英文個d 呀, 係要真係精靈, 有自信, 你睇個個女拔d學生就知 (2) 家境多數會係較好, 唔係一定要好有錢, 但一定唔可以太窮, otherwise 邊有 resources 去 support 個囡d study 呢, 我知都有普通家庭有女女入到, 但 if this is the case, 一定係個女有過人之處先會吸引到學校收佢

If start from scratch (say from KG up), how can I prepare my girl to enter DGS?
==> D 人成日話 XX 幼稚園就可以 drill 到小朋友入 DGS etc...我就話此想法流於表面, 佢地都唔明個 logic here...根本由頭到尾呢d 學校就係要收出色既學生 (in terms of performance, knowledge etc), 所以讀邊間幼稚園根本唔係 top concern, 而係家長如何 mould the kids to be their targets only, 即係話, 就算我阿女讀既係屋村幼稚園, 只要家長有能力, 心機同時間去 drill 阿女, 令佢對答如流, 有自信, 醒醒目目, 我就唔信佢地唔收, 相反 even 你阿女係 XX 園, 寶X 畢業都好丫, 個女成舊飯咁, 家長又懵下懵下咁, 你係校長你收唔收丫....(一係除非關係好 strong la...呢d永遠有 exception) , 而 so far 好多呢d 名牌幼稚園家長都好努力去同學校一齊去 mould 小朋友去考DGJS 丫嘛, so 因為多考得入, d 人咪成日以為讀呢d幼稚園就入硬咁囉, 但 can you see the 問題核心 here? 講到尾係個小朋友, family 係構成收or 唔收既 key, 唔係間幼稚園呀....so 你要 prepare 既係個小朋友, 唔係間幼稚園..

I personally prefer to enter 油天 first as I think that it is a very good PS and I don't want to send my girl to 貴族學校 so early.
==> Let me share some of my feelings here:

==>我本身對名校 or nobel schools 唔會特別追捧, 但亦唔排斥, 不過有一樣野我想指出既係, 一間學校既成功一定有其原因, 係因為d人個個係貴族又好, d人個個特別叻又好, 個 syllabus 特別掂又好啦, 一定有其原因, 我揀校好睇 results, so far 呢d "名校", 你話佢幾白鴿眼都好, 佢又真係的而且確製造到好多好出色既人喎, 當然我信屋村學校都有叻人 (你睇星之子就知, 佢間係 Band 3 school, 都一樣可以叻), 但我又會問....咁究竟要幾多年先出有個陳亦希丫...要有幾多個巧合 (即係要俾老師睇得出佢有天份再加以裁培, 佢父母又要有咁既 resources 去 support 佢喎) 先會有個陳亦希丫...我可以話真係唔知要等幾年, 所以有好多野係好現實, 一方面我信"出於污泥而不染" 呢樣野, 但我更信"物以類聚"呢句話啦, 所以有時我都會 support 呢d學校, 係因為我知 (亦真係接觸過), 其實有時我 buy 呢d學校唔係因為佢既成績 (我成日都話要成功唔係有幾多個 A 咁 simple) 而係好多 other factors 去 build up, e.g. confidence, presentation, etc

呢d學校, 以我觀察, 不約而同有一個共通點我好欣賞既就係佢地可以 train 到學生個份自信, 勇氣同 presentation, 第日出嚟社會做事, 咁多 candidate, 如何突顯自己丫...唔靠自己去表現自己, 真係等人發掘呀..??

以往我讀書時, 曾碰過一個 DGS 畢業既女仔, 我知佢係屬於渣個堆, 即係全屆中都算係 bottom 個d 架啦, 但你咪話, 個次我地做 presentation, 佢一企出嚟講既英文, 個份自信, 十幾廿年後既今日我仲歷歷在目, 亦從個時我開始明白 why 個個家長都想子女入呢d學校, so 我真係信, "爛船都有三分釘"呢個道理..有好多野唔好 only from books 去學番嚟, 而係 from environment, peers, etc...

早排你有冇睇 EMB 夜晚響 TVB 個節目呀? 講唔知乜通識教育個個呢? 就係訪問 DGS d 學生, well...I could see 個d學生所 demonstrate 出嚟既一d calibre, 呢d 係我地 (at least for me, if I look for smart candidate) 要揾既野, 唔係要英文 lak lak 聲, 係對自己既信心, 肯定, 唔係俾人問一句就口啞啞, e e er er , 眼神不定個d 喎...呢班女仔真係好得....so 我知呢間 school 既成功之處...不過點解可以得, 第二d 學校又冇咁得呢...well....another long analysis, 此處先不談...

但, 我亦明白好多家長既 worry, 怕自己個女比唔上人 (家境), 個女第日響入面生活都幾辛苦....云云.....well..this relates to "value building", 我睇野係"面對"型, 而唔係"避開"型, 即係 if the school 真係有其優點, 咁我會想盡辦法去解決一d 有影響既問題啦, so if 怕入 nobel school 係因為見人地有錢, 自己又俾唔到仔女就怕佢辛苦, 咁...人地有錢係人地既事, 我點睇自己又係我既事, why let others to control my thoughts 而唔係我自己去 control 自己既 feeling? 咁容易受人地既背景就令自己洩氣既盞幾時都辛苦, 而且就算唔讀呢間, 去讀第二間, 都一樣可以有另一d野令你介意架喇...it happens everywhere, right? so 介意得幾多...?? 但若因為咁放棄一個可以讀好學校既 chance 我會認為唔值得 (真係家庭環境唔許可 or 小朋友成績真係唔得 or 考唔到就另計), so on the other hand 我會努力令阿女學識如何面對唔同既人, 要識欣賞自己 instead of always comparing with others la...

so when we make a decision, 我認為最重要既係....你要問自己想阿女第日係點囉....all we are talking about here is "give and take", 因為讀得呢d學校, 競爭一定唔少, so 家人同小朋友去承受當中壓力既能力如何先最影響 whether you should go for these schools la...

Then the key comes to CHOICES and PREFERENCES again...即係有d人死慳死抵都想買個 LV 用先開心, 有d 人用個街邊雜o麥都開心...咁...邊個好d丫...who can tell? right? 但我只係想指出, 有d人成日話 LV 邊值丫, 我個 VL 都好好丫...etc...係....我知 VL 都好好, 但 VL 都好好同 LV 真係好好係冇 conflicts ga wor...最緊要係欣賞同喜歡你依家用緊個個咪得囉, 每個人既 choice 必有其理由去 support , 而當中理由只要當事人接受就得喇, 何必要其他人都認同...?


By the way, any comment on the government / DSS primary schools in Discovery Bay besides IS / ESF? I am now living in TKO but may consider to move to Discovery Bay? How about the 校網?
==>你係問小學, right? 小學離島校網唔多得架喎...if you move to Discovery Bay, for primary school 我前面都有 share 過, 九龍區以 net 41 (Kowloon Tong) , net 34 (Homantin), 新界以 net 91 (Shatin), HK island 係 net 11 (中西區) 同 12 (Wanchai) 係較好的...即係揀得落手既學校多d...


One more question: what is your opinion of placing the child in girls' / boys' school starting from primary school. Will this effect their behaviour with same / opposite sex in the future?
==> for me, 我 buy co-ed schools ga .... 因為俾佢地習慣兩性之間既相處會反而令佢地唔會對兩性之間既差異咁好奇 - 呢點係上初中既時候會更明顯, 同埋如何同唔同性別既人相處 (因為大家諗野同做野既方法都真係幾唔同) 會較只同單性相處會好d...

==> 不過話說回來, even 我 buy co-ed, 但我選校呢個唔係 first priority, 我會先睇 other factors 既...


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Re: 彥媽與你 BB 讀書/學習交流站

joanthony:

我最好就只同工人講英文, 但同bb 就講中文, 但bb 同時亦會有兩種language 會接收到
==> yup..correct...仲有, 叫工人even 識聽中文都好, if 阿仔唔用英文問佢就唔鬼好答佢, 唔係第日就會變成阿仔用中文問工人, 工人用英文答...and that's meaningless ga la...


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