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原文章由 十月變形記 於 07-12-16 22:11 發表
其實點選擇都好, 最重要係父母俾心機係屋企教, 唔好淨係倚賴學校d先生.

只要留心看書看報,天才兒童多數由父母培養出來,近一年來香港出現的天才兒童或外國的卡爾威特或中國的劉亦婷,郎朗,李雲廸等等,都係由父母的犠牲,父母的堅持加小朋友的努力才能成功.1%天才加99%努力. (勤有功,戲無益,戒之哉,宜勉力.)

學校,只是現代社會所要的"人材"工廠,學校唔會因為你音樂叻而讓你升級,畫畫叻而有得畢業,只因為你為校"攞獎"爭光,而爭功勞.學校並不是培養天才的地方,反而係庸材集中地.:-( :-( :-(

所以講得好,千奇唔好倚賴學校d先生,咁多學生,教得邊個

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有d學校一班成50人, 真係認唔認得晒都成問題, 唔好話留意吓邊個邊方面有talent.

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講真, 又呻幾句:tongue:
以前我老細話, 外國有學校d成績表唔係俾分, 而係真係一個report, 分折吓呢個學生係各方面o既表現. 佢都想我地可以向呢個方向行.
從一個家長角度, 就當然好啦, 最好係又有分數(量化個細路o既表現, 方便比較), 又有report講吓佢人品點好法, 邊方面有天份), 唔係罐頭評語!
但係從staff角度睇, 係港澳真係冇辦法咁做, 因為有太多paper work要做(教改

,) 最重要係每班少極都有成30幾人, 點樣續個做report呀! 到真係認識到個學生時可能已經係學年尾!!?-(
學你話齋, 除非係extremes, 好叻or好

, 中間(9成都係)嗰d真係面目模糊

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十月變形記,

in here, the schools will give each student a "report card" twice a year. in preschools, they talk abt the kid's knowledge, development and personality, etc. there's no grade but just say if s/he has met the learning objectives, etc. at most they only say "excellent, satisfy, progressing, or incomplete" etc.

there're charter schools to give customized or individualized lesson plans for each kid, coz they think each kid learn differently and have talents in different areas. i'm not sure if that's good or bad for the kid though. what do u think?

there're also gifted & talented programs starting from 3rd grade in most schools for the qualified kids.

原文章由 十月變形記 於 07-12-17 00:37 發表
講真, 又呻幾句:tongue:
以前我老細話, 外國有學校d成績表唔係俾分, 而係真係一個report, 分折吓呢個學生係各方面o既表現. 佢都想我地可以向呢個方向行.
從一個家長角度, 就當然好啦, 最好係又有分數(量化個細路o ...

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原文章由 Cathy2002 於 07-12-16 22:46 發表

只要留心看書看報,天才兒童多數由父母培養出來,近一年來香港出現的天才兒童或外國的卡爾威特或中國的劉亦婷,郎朗,李雲廸等等,都係由父母的犠牲,父母的堅持加小朋友的努力才能成功.1%天才加99%努力. (勤有功,戲無益 ...

你咁講係真架﹐ I have an example -

我識得有個女仔﹐日本人﹐佢細個應該係有D violin 天分嘅。佢地屋企環境唔係太好哥隻。佢Daddy就C慳C抵﹐喺佢8歲時帶埋幾兄妹去US﹐等佢入 Juliarrd. 真係入到(因為佢有少少天才feel)。

但佢都唔係真係鐘意拉 violin, 但以前佢老豆係咁監佢拉﹐監佢聽 classical. 最後終於做左反叛少女。離家出走﹐去做修甲自己賺錢。

佢嘅童年係唔開心嘅﹐仲有陰影。

Marc Yu 嘅case, 佢係自己enjoy嘅﹐唔彈唔安樂。始終佢係一個無聊時要睇沙士比亞嘅super brain。佢好lucky 有個肯幫佢發揮嘅mommy 去support 佢﹐我就做唔到。。。

Cathy, Ryan 細個時我都有睇卡爾威特﹐ 好彩無拉親佢D手手。

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原文章由 MegumiSan 於 07-12-17 09:39 發表

你咁講係真架﹐ I have an example -

我識得有個女仔﹐日本人﹐佢細個應該係有D violin 天分嘅。佢地屋企環境唔係太好哥隻。佢Daddy就C慳C抵﹐喺佢8歲時帶埋幾兄妹去US﹐等佢入 Juliarrd. 真係入到(因為佢有少少天才feel) ...

咁講la,每個小朋友都有個人特質,不要硬把別人一套強加自己的小朋友身上.要分析,要整合自己的策略.

如果小朋友enjoy,係完全無問題.我個囡得2周大,我已教佢英文字母同數字,到佢識坐(約6個月)已認後A-Z,4個幾月大,已有意識叫爸爸媽媽,在那一個時期,好多人話我傻,話BB咁細識D乜,我就同佢地講,當BB只認為學習是玩的時侯,學習會變得有樂趣,現在不學,到小朋友認為學習並不等於玩時,你叫佢背誦,就更難.呢個係父母的選擇,眼見身邊的FD的仔囡,天資一次一次被埋滿,心很難過.

學習更要持之以恆

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Cathy~
好同意你所講,對小朋友要持之以恆,其實我係一個比較自私既媽咪,因為自己同朋友既經歷,所以將個女推入去SHCC度讀,由細細個開始培養佢讀書做功課既規律,而家個女大左就知道要完成晒先可以玩,從細觀察個女既性格同埋佢既潛能,發覺佢係一個平凡既小朋友,所以更加要佢讀名校,因為張證書對佢將來升學及就業,真係好大幫助,所以佢辛苦讀十幾年書,將來就唔駛咁辛苦.我唔想個女怨我一世.因為真有其事,我朋友見個女讀SHCC辛苦,幫佢轉左間普通中文學校,點知而家中學畢業,因為英數既程度差,無辦法揀好既大學,個女怨佢媽媽,點解同佢轉校,唔堅持落去讀名校. 所以我而家咁堅持...所以成日同個女講,"勤有功,戲無益", "一分耕耘,一分收獲".

以上係我個人見解, 希望其他媽咪唔好見怪.

其實做媽咪真係好大犧牲同壓力,除左讀書之外,教育小朋友既道德,同言行舉止都好緊要,明明係好錫佢,但係又唔縱得佢,好辛苦架,我眼見周圍d朋友比佢地既仔仔囡囡呼呼喝喝,當阿四咁點到陀陀令,我就睇唔順眼. 小朋友係一張白紙,家長想畫乜野寫乜野上去.真係要考慮清楚.

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我好enjoy 可以喺呢度學到第D澳門媽咪點樣教小朋友。

始終澳門嘅環境比較特別。。。好多野都要靠自己。

原文章由 Siao 於 07-12-17 11:32 發表
Cathy~
好同意你所講,對小朋友要持之以恆,其實我係一個比較自私既媽咪,因為自己同朋友既經歷,所以將個女推入去SHCC度讀,由細細個開始培養佢讀書做功課既規律,而家個女大左就知道要完成晒先可以玩,從細觀察個女既性格 ...

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不過我都係建議你地唔好比d囡入SHCC. 學我囡話齋:"超辛苦."

而家唔係英文學高一年咁簡單,連中文同數學都高人一級.學d野仲深過培正.

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原文章由 Siao 於 07-12-17 11:48 發表
不過我都係建議你地唔好比d囡入SHCC. 學我囡話齋:"超辛苦."

而家唔係英文學高一年咁簡單,連中文同數學都高人一級.學d野仲深過培正.

讓我加多一點,讀邊間學校都要有人支援,個人認為,補習社並非一個好選擇.我反而覺得,父母有能力就自己教,無能力就請補習先生回家教.
我識的一個CASE,父母初中都畢唔到業,硬要把女兒放在聖心英,由於英文不能通,請不來菲傭,所以家傭為印傭(因為識廣東話),經常在少主面前話英文無用,(工人對住外人都話少主最驚英文?-( )而小朋友溫習,亦非常抗拒英文,問做乜科科都係英文,不停串字默英

依家至P1已經去完補習社回家還要溫到11點,成績一般,但係對6歲的小朋友,呢種真係非人生活.:-( :-(

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SY_Mom,
我諗我同cathy2002 抱持相同態度, 小朋友當然個個都唔好, 唔使信主都知, 十隻手指有長短, 孖生都會有唔同天份啦, 學習能力就更加唔使講, 不過我認為最重要係小朋友o既'willingness to learn' & 'ability to self learning'.
自己有能力就當然可以做home schooling, 完全tailor-made一個schedule俾自己小朋友, 但係成效有幾大? 自己叻唔代表一定識教小朋友, 尤其是自己個仔/女, 你越緊張佢你就揑得佢越緊, 好似Siao同MegumiSan所講個例子咁.
所以教識小朋友正確學習態度, 例如努力=有收獲, 有恆心唔輕易放棄, study hard, play hard, 加上教識佢自己去學習, 唔好一味靠人幫, 呢兩個factor真係終生受用, 唔係高學歷都可以培養出有成就o既小朋友.
出面d 學校同埋courses我就唔敢評, 始終係一個社會裡面, 學校要跟政府政策同埋考慮大眾利益, 私家o既又要顧住自己o既$$利益.
今時今日做父母心理上係好矛盾, 想佢有快樂童年, 又想佢學有所成, 更想佢將來有所成就. 天才係萬中冇一o既武林高手, 但係都要配合天時地利人和, 仲要有人俾本秘笈佢先有得出頭(周星馳fans

), 何況呢個世界上9成人都唔係, 蠢才就周街都見到.

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cathy2002,

i'm so impressed that u started to teach yr daughter so many things since she was very little. i don't think a lot of parents would do that.
are u a teacher yourself? i always think those kids are lucky to have a school teacher being their parents!

when u said "眼見身邊的FD的仔囡,天資一次一次被埋滿,心很難過." sometimes i felt a bit gilty that i didn't teach my kid a lot.

原文章由 Cathy2002 於 07-12-17 10:01 發表

咁講la,每個小朋友都有個人特質,不要硬把別人一套強加自己的小朋友身上.要分析,要整合自己的策略.

如果小朋友enjoy,係完全無問題.我個囡得2周大,我已教佢英文字母同數字,到佢識坐(約6個月)已認後A-Z,4個幾月大,已 ...

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原文章由 十月變形記 於 07-12-17 13:41 發表
SY_Mom,
我諗我同cathy2002 抱持相同態度, 小朋友當然個個都唔好, 唔使信主都知, 十隻手指有長短, 孖生都會有唔同天份啦, 學習能力就更加唔使講, 不過我認為最重要係小朋友o既'willingness to learn' & 'ability t ...

係也原全同意你既講法,自從知道個囡學習同成績方面屬一般後,我都唔再要求佢好高分或者攞名次,每次佢係學校學完返黎,就只要求佢明白每堂課既內容,尤其係數學,至於佢既分數,如果佢盡左力而低分,我都由得佢,因為佢間學校d測驗出到好深,都唔係佢地程度會識,但係如果發現係粗心大意,就即時產佢.佢都明白呢個道理. 相比佢班內攞第一名果位小朋友,我個女壓力係小好多.不過不竟係SHCC讀壓力真係好大. 我簡直係全情投入同佢一齊由頭讀過小學.

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十月變形記,

it's great that u talked abt your opinion abt home-schooling. for me, i'm 100% sure that i won't do home-schooling for my son, coz he never listens to me. sometimes he doesn't like others to teach him. he likes to explore or do it himself and then ask u if it's correct or not.

charter schools are a bit different than the traditional schools, coz their teaching philosophy is different. i think it's better than home-schooling coz there're still other kids in the class that your kid can be socialized with. so the kid doesn't need to learn in a "2-persons" world.

原文章由 十月變形記 於 07-12-17 13:41 發表
SY_Mom,
我諗我同cathy2002 抱持相同態度, 小朋友當然個個都唔好, 唔使信主都知, 十隻手指有長短, 孖生都會有唔同天份啦, 學習能力就更加唔使講, 不過我認為最重要係小朋友o既'willingness to learn' & 'ability t ...

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sy_mom
咁你個仔已經有一點唔係咁多小朋友有o既特質啦, 就係佢對自己好有信心好肯定自己, 佢喜歡自己去explore, 之後再証實自己啱定錯, 你可以諗吓培養佢做個科學家

或者係向呢個方向走, 我講真o架.

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十月變形記,

sigh ... but he'll ask u only if he's not sure how to do it. if he thinks he's right, he won't ask u and not willing to take yr comments.

when i sent him to a group piano class few months ago, the teacher was supposed to show him how to play a new song first before he played it himself. however, he always said he could do it himself when the teacher tried to show him. also he never practiced at home coz he thought he already knew it. although he was able to play (barely), he didn't play it well. i thought it just wasted the money if he didn't need the teacher to show him, so i didn't keep him enrolled when the 3-month-term was over. maybe i'll try to enroll him again when he's a bit older.

i just think his attitude will limit his opportunity to learn.
唉! 佢都幾惡教ga!

原文章由 十月變形記 於 07-12-17 15:14 發表
sy_mom
咁你個仔已經有一點唔係咁多小朋友有o既特質啦, 就係佢對自己好有信心好肯定自己, 佢喜歡自己去explore, 之後再証實自己啱定錯, 你可以諗吓培養佢做個科學家或者係向呢個方向走, 我講真o架. ...

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永援K1下午無得瞓架,小朋友會好辛苦

我二個小朋友就讀聖公會,小朋友返學好開心同埋學到好多野:)

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