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侯爵府

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61#
發表於 08-7-22 09:50 |只看該作者
樓主, sorry, 你真係應該好好想一想...

1)身為人母, 是不應如此過份倚賴工人, BK有大把在職媽咪也不會如此倚賴工人
2)小朋友的成長是去百份百滿足她嗎? 如不能學習學懂去適應種種問題,將來她怎樣在這個世界上活下去
3)你的言行真的直接影響工人的工作表現

現在除了幫助女女學習適應新工人,是否也應幫助新工人適應你的家庭, 造就一個雙贏局面


男爵府

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62#
發表於 08-7-22 12:56 |只看該作者
Hazel

feel sorry for you... and understand why you are sooo heartbreaking for the behavior of your daughter.

however, I don't agree with you at all.

1. When we hire a maid, we know she will leave one day... she is not our relatives or family... this is what you need to teach your daughter. And this is a good chance

2. you are spoiling your daughter if you do whatever you can to get your ex-maid to come back. your daughter will learn whatsover she wants, she can cry / refuse to eat,then her mom will do everything to get for her. This is a wrong message to give to your daughter and will affect her whole life.

3. your life should not depend / control by your maid. You already started the relationship with your maid wrongly.. and she already built up a bad attitude. Honestly, eventually your daughter will learn from her and not respect you and your husband when she grows up.

4. This is a good chance for you to build up a closer bonding with your daughter.... you should put extra effect to let your daughter know, no matter what, mommy and daddy will be there for her (not the maid) and support her.

5. No matter how good your maid is in taking care of your daughter... remember.. you paid her salary.. she is just fufilling her own duty.

Finally, by reading your post.. I don't see she is respecting you and your husband at all ... and you think keeping such a person in your home is good for your daughter.... then beg for your ex-maid to come back........ You should seek for long-term benefit to your daughter, not a short-term solution.




原文章由 Hazel媽媽 於 08-7-20 16:54 發表
原本的工人,一直我都覺得佢太唔似一個工人,無大無細,見到我唔會打招呼,仲成日黑面,唔出聲,發脾氣…當時的我和先生真係很嬲,早想即時炒咗佢(但,佢對我個女好好,人品亦可,唔會學壞果種,做家務都可以,所以一直都無行動)…
不過…係佢 ...


子爵府

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好媽媽勳章


63#
發表於 08-7-22 14:04 |只看該作者

回覆 #4 miutang 的文章

我都同意,之後你忍唔到佢,要炒佢更得不所失,三思。


伯爵府

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好媽媽勳章 醒目開學勳章 畀面勳章


64#
發表於 08-7-22 14:10 |只看該作者
樓主

唔好買狗啦
要狗不如考慮下領養啦
好多狗等人要


大宅

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65#
發表於 08-7-22 15:27 |只看該作者
Hazel媽媽,

妳囡囡跟左工人2年, 鍾意跟佢係好正常. 唔跟先至係問題.
我覺得態度比任何野都重要.
妳囡囡日日跟住佢, 睇到佢用咩態度去對妳地.
如果2-3年後, 妳發覺對妳唔會打招呼,
仲成日黑面,唔出聲,發脾氣. 唔單只係工人,
連囡囡都係咁, 就真係喊都無謂.


民房

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66#
發表於 08-7-22 16:06 |只看該作者
盡可能自己多點照雇個女吧.
工人是用來做家務,做d你唔想做既工種.
點會為左個女去 乞番工人.況且你既工人黑口黑面.為咩野甘委屈自己,還是你很害怕自己湊女呢


男爵府

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67#
發表於 08-7-22 16:22 |只看該作者
老實講話, 你真係好自私. 同埋你個工人點都唔會打你一世工, 咁你新請既工人咪好慘, 要比agent fee同埋都唔知自己做左咩就比人炒左, 一個新人都要比時間佢適應架. 我明白做父母見到子女喊係會心痛, 但係小朋友係好快適應. 我相信係你唔想煩, 以為有錢就可以搞點. 不過, 你有無唸過, 你小朋友現在才二歲. 將來你可能會見到佢有喊既情況咁你點算? 所有野都有正反兩面.

我唸你要囡囡明白, 姐姐係有機會換, 但父母是換不了的. 就算點父母都係最親的.


大宅

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68#
發表於 08-7-22 17:30 |只看該作者
Hazel 媽媽,

其實我擔心你嘅情緒問題, 多過擔心你同女女無咗舊姐姐唔得.

你要留意吓你自已啦, 再咁落去我驚你有抑鬱呀! 你唔好再鑽牛角尖啦!

其實囡囡唔食飯一、兩餐無問題架, 佢肚仔餓自然就會食嘢架啦, 你心情唔好都無胃口啦, 做咩要迫佢呢? 比啲時間你哋去適應啦!

無謂為咗一個外人(舊姐姐) 攪到自己身體 / 家庭有問題吖, 而且有好多媽媽都係自己照顧小朋友同家庭架啦, 佢哋都無工人幫手格, 咪一樣攪得掂.

你要相信你嘅能力呀. 我會支持你架, 唔好放棄同囡囡相處嘅機會呀!


複式洋房

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69#
發表於 08-7-22 17:55 |只看該作者
原文章由 Hazel媽媽 於 08-7-20 16:54 發表
原本的工人,一直我都覺得佢太唔似一個工人,無大無細,見到我唔會打招呼,仲成日黑面,唔出聲,發脾氣…當時的我和先生真係很嬲,早想即時炒咗佢(但,佢對我個女好好,人品亦可,唔會學壞果種,做家務都可以,所以一直都無行動)…
不過…係佢 ...


Hazelma,
I'm sorry to say that you are over reacted. Think of the consequences, even if able to get the old maid back. She will still leave your family sometimes in the future. She won't stay with you forever. What if she wants to leave 2 years later when your daughter more cling to her, will you kneel down and beg her? What if she say no, will you kill yourself infront of her? You are making every one suffer.
Little kids are very forgetful. Their lives move on even without their kins. Your daughter will definately forget the old maid in 3-4 months.
You are very negative that will influence your lovely daughter in a bad way. She is only 2, she need some good role modlel to teach and guide her, namely her mom.
Your hubby is right, give time and allowance to both yourself and the new maid. You may suprise.
Sorry to be so frank but i can't help to tell you off.
Remember your daughter is relying on you, don't think of those stupid things like comitted suicide and beg the new employer ever again. You will get over it.
May god bless you and your family.

cheers up!!!!!

[ 本文章最後由 nattyma 於 08-7-22 18:01 編輯 ]


複式洋房

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70#
發表於 08-7-22 20:04 |只看該作者
Thank You各位媽媽,
我心情好點了,想認真的回覆一下

首先:真的很感激,因為你們的一字一句,真的打醒了我的心,真的,我真的接受你們的意見…tks

我一遇到問題,就不想面對,”只會懷念之前的日子,若然不是這樣…現在就不會……”,這樣令我迷失了,真的完全忘記了換人的原因,把她的重要性擴大了。

而我在這年頭起,亦己轉為全職媽媽,其實我只是把女兒的食飯﹑暗訓覺等交了給姐姐,而屋企的家務亦交了給她,我是時常在家陪囡兒的,陪她玩,亦因為囡囡以前學習進度錯,所以在做全職媽媽其間,我不斷地跟女兒說話,教她東西,她進步是多於以前的…

囡兒找我…待回再接下文…


複式洋房

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71#
發表於 08-7-22 20:39 |只看該作者
原文章由 Hazel媽媽 於 08-7-22 20:04 發表
Thank You各位媽媽,
我心情好點了,想認真的回覆一下

首先:真的很感激,因為你們的一字一句,真的打醒了我的心,真的,我真的接受你們的意見…tks

我一遇到問題,就不想面對,”只會懷念之前的日子,若然不是這樣…現在就不會……”, ...


Hazelma,
Good to hear that you feel better. Think of the bright side, you are a full time mom and you have all the time to accompany your lovely girl and teach her the right attitude when facing any change.
Anyway, forget the old , be ready for the new. Good Luck


複式洋房

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72#
發表於 08-7-22 22:53 |只看該作者
謝謝鼓勵

下回…
因為睇完大家的留言及經歷同時亦跟多位朋友傾訴,我終於諗返自己的原意(其實同時因為舊姐姐哩幾日o既表現,自己知道再用佢,都只係會得個嬲字,無錯今日中午餐飯囡囡係食得好好,因為係舊姐姐餵佢,但姐姐o既表現,真的亦令我想清楚自己的要求)
姐姐o既無禮貌真的影響了囡囡,囡囡見到人唔會打招呼,別人叫她,她不會理會,亦因姐姐與囡囡玩時,只是給她玩具或看電視,所以不能認真的從玩具中學習,亦因太長時間看電視,而令雙眼好像有鈄視,姐姐只是想掙取時間send sms,講電話,還會餵奶時訓著(我親眼見,她還回應我沒有,但當時她雙眼已很紅,還可堅持沒有,只是看著地下,還說是我的錯覺,然後還黑面),更甚的是姐姐沒有危機意識,所有事都用”得啦,有睇住架啦,邊有事”但囡囡有兩次就因為的輕視下撞得很傷,在她暗訓覺是撞到眼(爆了微線血管)及撞到個頭”串”了流血,又瘀又腫,鼻也撞到流鼻血…這些也只是部份..
舊姐姐為人真的很smart,很聰明,很多事情我一講就已經明白,但…她亦因聰明而變得懶惰,因為聰明而自視過高,因為聰明而學懂”大話”
你們說得對,是我找了藉口給自己,不習慣的是我,因為習慣了她在家,習慣了一切的事,不想再重新開始。
我己找清方向,我不換她,我才是對一個壞媽媽,一個對女兒不起的媽媽,一個害了女兒的媽媽…

我會積極些,但…我想我還需要多點時間去適應…或者短時間內,我還會有所起伏,但我已了解自己的方向

另其實心裡還有件事,但不知在這個情況下,我是否應該去做……
我是否應該拆穿她呢?是關於那位舊姐姐與新太太的事…唉
不知如何是好…因為…我知道…舊姐姐對新太太其實有所欺騙……


複式洋房

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73#
發表於 08-7-22 23:00 |只看該作者
原文章由 亞薯 於 08-7-22 17:30 發表
Hazel 媽媽,

其實我擔心你嘅情緒問題, 多過擔心你同女女無咗舊姐姐唔得.

你要留意吓你自已啦, 再咁落去我驚你有抑鬱呀! 你唔好再鑽牛角尖啦!

其實囡囡唔食飯一、兩餐無問題架, 佢肚仔餓自然就會食嘢架啦, 你心 ...


你講得好啱,我唔會再咁架啦,係我自己情緒問題,攪到睇每樣事物都好差,我想得很清楚了,亦從迷失中找回當初的目的,是我因一時之不習慣而求一個工人返嚟,幸好的是未成事實,若然真的換了回來,我想日後的日子便會更慘,亦幸好未曾花出一分一文 姐姐一定要換,我一定會勞力的


複式洋房

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74#
發表於 08-7-22 23:31 |只看該作者
Hazel媽媽, you said, "
另其實心裡還有件事,但不知在這個情況下,我是否應該去做……
我是否應該拆穿她呢?是關於那位舊姐姐與新太太的事…唉
不知如何是好…因為…我知道…舊姐姐對新太太其實有所欺騙……"

It is depending how serious it is.
1) the new employer will think that you are going to distrub her and to say some bad side of her new maid, because you cannot get her back.
2) however, you should remind her what is the problem of her new maid. This is all you can do.

It is good to learn that you are feeling better now.
Spend more time with your girl.



原文章由 Hazel媽媽 於 08-7-22 22:53 發表
謝謝鼓勵

下回…
因為睇完大家的留言及經歷同時亦跟多位朋友傾訴,我終於諗返自己的原意(其實同時因為舊姐姐哩幾日o既表現,自己知道再用佢,都只係會得個嬲字,無錯今日中午餐飯囡囡係食得好好,因為係舊姐姐餵佢,但姐姐o既表現, ...


子爵府

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75#
發表於 08-7-23 01:43 |只看該作者
拆穿!!!你唔洗諗住將事實講出嚟講到咁負面!
佢在職時你都知佢做錯好多野,對你態度唔好啦,照顧小朋友疏忽啦,而且令小朋友受傷係一件可以考慮即時解僱o既原因tim啦,佢唔老實啦,....無論係責任感及工作態度都有問題,我唔可以話係你令佢咁,而係佢咁o既態度都可以做完個約,咁當然去到下一個family亦有機會繼續,而且佢自己咁差o既工作態度,都可以令ex employer曾經考慮用錢用時間用眼淚去"唉"佢返轉頭,佢重有需要"改過"嗎??
你可以做o既,當然係嘗試聯絡新employer,唔好一心諗住去將往事拆穿,佢都總有少少優點吧(當然見你提到都唔少缺點),咪將工人平時有咩要多加留意o既事提醒吓佢,等佢可以跟個工人跟得足d囉!雖然某d工人本質係特差,但有時employer都有一定責任,你唔去教唔去理,明知佢錯由佢錯,咁當然越變越衰啦!或者新employer經你提醒後,佢有佢辦法去教呢~


別墅

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76#
發表於 08-7-23 09:37 |只看該作者
No,係我就唔等績約,炒左她.
她黑面,無禮貌, 你是不是想個女學她, 個女大大下就會學晒呢d無禮貌,唔識尊重人,有樣學樣呀!
我個女都係一個好錫她及有禮的工人姐姐由初生照顧至兩歲, 兩歲後我唔請她, 比個女返全日幼兒園, 只要個工人唔再在家住, 約一個星期, 個女己經好似唔記得呢個人.
之後, 在我女k3下學期, 我請返另外一個工人, 一切好好, 而個女亦間唔中遇見舊工人(因舊工人在同一屋苑做), 我女跟本己經唔記得她.
及, 工人始終係外一,唔可以一世在一起, 你個重要無禮貌, 因住教壞你個女.
小朋友將來上學後, 有好多其他事物同朋友, 會分散她的, 及真係仲細, 只要唔見, 好快會唔記得.



原文章由 Hazel媽媽 於 08-7-20 16:54 發表
原本的工人,一直我都覺得佢太唔似一個工人,無大無細,見到我唔會打招呼,仲成日黑面,唔出聲,發脾氣…當時的我和先生真係很嬲,早想即時炒咗佢(但,佢對我個女好好,人品亦可,唔會學壞果種,做家務都可以,所以一直都無行動)…
不過…係佢 ...


男爵府

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77#
發表於 08-7-23 09:53 |只看該作者
Hazel ma

我同你面對同一問題, 我第一次請工人, 佢亦由nb 湊我女到而家就黎2歲, 佢9月完約啦, 我仲以為佢會同我續約, 點知佢話要番歸, 我當時都喊左出黎, 因為相處左2年, 真係好唔捨得佢, 我加佢人工, 比假佢放長假, 都打動唔到佢, 點解我咁想佢留低? 並唔係佢做得特別好, 只不過佢湊掂我個女, 我個女由細到大對食野都係唔多好, 一食野就要扭一大餐..但係只要姐姐出”咩” 帶, 佢就貼貼服服, 女女由細到大都係跟姐姐訓, 佢痴姐姐痴得好緊要, 直頭係唔要媽媽要姐姐個隻, 我發覺咁樣會好有問題, 同埋姐姐走左女女一定好傷心, 所以係3個月前, 我開始同番女女訓, 開頭佢會訓到半夜起身搵姐姐, 喊哂個隻…但係過左幾日, 佢就無搵姐姐, 而家仲一定要媽媽tim….

所以, 希望我地一齊努力…..我曾經同朋友呻過無左姐姐唔知點算, 我朋友就話 “我通常每2年會換姐姐一次, 除非好outstanding 可以繽約, 要比女女知道, 姐姐只係過客, 媽媽先係永遠在身邊”

另一個朋友話 “我個女都好痴姐姐, 所以更加要換佢, 一完約就BYE BYE”

呢2個case 我真係入哂腦, 同埋係支持我原動力, 希望都可以幫到你啦….

不過我同你唔同, 我要番工, 而你係全職媽媽, 你仲更加多時間同女女建立感情, 努力呀!!


複式洋房

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78#
發表於 08-7-23 13:28 |只看該作者
Dear cameo & tsunmon

sorry呀,可能有d誤導咗你哋,我唔係想將佢所謂o既缺點講比新顧主知,佢要呃新顧主o既唔係哩d(黑面…etc.),我都知關於佢有哩d問題我都需要負責,我都有一直提醒佢,佢日後都有可能會改好。
但係佢欺騙新顧主o既嘢…真係唔係哩d,我好矛盾……唔知點講好…
就如tsunmon講,我怕人哋以為我想要返才咁做…唉…始終我當初係有咁諗過,所以…
我又怕我講咗出嚟,新顧主唔要佢,到時佢會無咗份工;然後返嚟揾我要幫比返d錢佢,或者要我要返佢…
再者,我更怕間agent會揾我麻煩,因為係工人+agent一齊欺騙新顧主…
我應唔應該將件事係哩度講出嚟分析咗先呢?但係我都有少少怕佢個新顧主/agent見到留言…
但我都曾經係新手媽媽,唔講出嚟,我又覺得良心對唔住自己…唉


洋房

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79#
發表於 08-7-23 13:56 |只看該作者
塞翁失馬焉知非福


原文章由 丫頭 於 08-7-20 19:00 發表
我之前炒個d工人全部都係對我對b唔好(係當一份job而從無擺個過心出黎)直至找到對上個位........佢本身心地唔錯佢係之前咁多個叫最令我地放心唔會對我對小朋友做任何小動作既工人,但除了這個就冇乜可以考慮同佢續約。
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複式洋房

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發表於 08-7-23 17:31 |只看該作者
你指既欺騙係咩事?我覺得你應該出聲,若然你係新僱主都想有人提醒你,我地係僱主就更加要團結,唔係由得AGENT及工人欺騙我地。

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