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Hello彥媽:

你好！一直都有追看你既topic，學左好多野，對我呢個新手媽咪真係幫助好大，真係多謝晒！

我係第一次發問，帶住戰戰兢兢既心情，雖然叫做睇晒part 1 & 2，免強叫做溫左書，都驚有睇漏，如果重複左問題，請見量！

小兒同你阿細彥一樣，都係今年9月入讀k1，家住沙田，依家要享st Catherine同埋又一村禮幼兩間2選1。知道享你既topic內已經講唔左少兩間學校既資料，我都summarize左d：

禮幼
1) 有學卷，學費較平
2) 有禮小back up, 收返around 70%禮幼學生
3) 禮小位於深水步中學校網

st Catherine
1) 無學卷，學費較貴
2) 傳統名校，以英文為賣點
3) 無小學back up，估計考私立／直資小學有著數

見彥媽每次都講禮幼係唔錯，小學都ｏｋ。我本身都係prefer禮幼多ｄ，始於有小學backup，而且禮小收左都allow大抽獎，仲可以博多個chance添，博下唔洗交學費。但係又擔心禮幼既英文程度，如果淨係講英文程度，我估st Catherine比較優勝，NET多Ｄ，學語言好需要有相關既語言環境。

１）唔知禮幼英文程度方面係點？知道禮幼都係有NET，不過時間應該比較少，如果自己出面搵ｄ英文班補足一下，唔知成效係唔係無享學校就有得學咁好呢？
２）中文方面既程度，禮幼同st Catherine比較又係點呢？
３）而德育方面，是否禮幼會比較好ｄ，有教會背景，比較關心學生既品德教育？
４）如果享呢兩個學校之間選擇，又需唔需要考慮小朋友本身既性格呢？如果要，我個仔係比較內向同埋慢熱，但係專注力又麻麻地，比依家N1既老師形容係成日唔留心果ｄ小朋友，又邊間邊比適合呢？幫到佢多ｄ？

希望無重覆問題啦，唔該晒你先！

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pangchai:

你好！一直都有追看你既topic，學左好多野，對我呢個新手媽咪真係幫助好大，真係多謝晒！
==> 哈哈..你最乖..俾個大 hug 你.....抵讚, 你肯溫書, 我會俾心機答你...hehe

見彥媽每次都講禮幼係唔錯，小學都ｏｋ。我本身都係prefer禮幼多ｄ，始於有小學backup，而且禮小收左都allow大抽獎，仲可以博多個chance添，博下唔洗交學費。但係又擔心禮幼既英文程度，如果淨係講英文程度，我估st Catherine比較優勝，NET多Ｄ，學語言好需要有相關既語言環境。
==>首先, 雖則我都讚成 St Cat 響英文個邊會做多d 功夫, 但我唔認為禮幼會同佢有好大距離, 而亦唔可以補救, somehow 一般幼稚園 (include 禮幼 which I am talking about here) 都係 "balanced 式d" 咁去教, 即係唔會側重英語, 既然係咁, 英語操練唔會有 St Cat 咁多亦係可以想像得到.

但我唔認為 3 hours only 既幼稚園可以令大家分別得好明顯, 而事實係, 我諗你都會知, 俾得小朋友入 St Cat 既家長 aim at 乜 (即係想考d 一線學校), 又點會只係 rely on that 3 hours 呢....most likely 佢地背後仲有更多野 support the kid ga...e.g. 全天候同佢講英文, 補習都補英文, 乜都有....

因此, 我會睇到, 佢地小朋友英語可以好, 唔多唔少都係家長事後做既野去 reinforce 埋先會見效的...

so I would say 都係你以咩行先為 decision base la....i.e. 你想搏下有小學 back up 既就禮幼, 再之後同小朋友打下氣 (around K2 2nd term la), 咁都唔會爭好遠的.

１）唔知禮幼英文程度方面係點？知道禮幼都係有NET，不過時間應該比較少，如果自己出面搵ｄ英文班補足一下，唔知成效係唔係無享學校就有得學咁好呢？
==>我冇小朋友讀, 所以唔敢講百分百, 不過以前大彥堂姐有讀, 亦有識家長有小朋友讀...唔見佢地提及英文 at all times, so I think 佢地都唔係十分側重此科, 都係咁多科既 one of them 而已.

出面英文班學同學校教分別不大, 我意思係個地點唔係問題, 係個 teacher 同埋 D material, 教學手法等等先係考慮點....有d 學校教都可以教得唔好 ga wor...so "學校教" =/= 就一定會好d ga ma...睇佢教乜先喇...St Cat 既深好多時係在於佢既 vocabulary, 你之前有冇睇過電視台都有介紹過...佢地唔係 A for Apple 的, 係 A for Astronaut, I 唔係 Ice-cream 係 Igloo...呢d 嘛....so 好唔好就見人見智, 在我, 我又唔係太 buy 要用d 深既字啦, 不過有d 家長就好想仔女好快就識好多生字呀咁囉...但當我唔會用 "igloo" 去作文既時候, 我又學黎做乜呢...right?

２）中文方面既程度，禮幼同st Catherine比較又係點呢？
==> 幼稚園差別唔會太大的, 家長們你地先唔好太緊張喇...三歲人仔讀既書可以有幾大分別呢...讀幼稚園 I would say 更重要既唔係要真係識幾多學術性既野, 而係要令佢地適應由一個受保護既環境 (即係屋企) 而轉去一個群體既環境, 當中仲會牽涉到規矩, 認知, 自理, 溝通, 呢d 係為佢地舖好個 foundation 去再讀上去架…因此, 學校都唔係主力要 train 佢地好多知識性既野 (esp at K1) 難道你想佢地真係一入去就學作文呀..?? 幼稚園都係認字為主, 大家都係認個d , 不過係早認定遲認喇...但以幼稚園只得 3 hours, 咁你都有數得計, 教得英文多, 規矩多, 自會有另一d 野 sacrifice, 咁中文 at St Cat “冇人地咁多” 可能都係“事實”, 但就咁就定請出禮賢中文好d 又唔 fair, 因為 St Cat 既學生又唔會唔識中文 ga wor…so somehow 我會話呢點係“相對論” 而已, 你真係要 compare 既就只有從客觀數字去睇, e.g. contact hours in each subject, but I would say, 又唔會爭好遠 ga wor…so how can you compare 2 schools in such a direct way lei?

==> to be continued...

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上面 too long , got to cut my answer into 2 parts ar....hahaha...

3）而德育方面，是否禮幼會比較好ｄ，有教會背景，比較關心學生既品德教育？
==>我一向好小心用 “好” 呢個字, 因為佢係一個好主觀既字, 每個人見到呢個字都會有唔同反應…我諗我唔可以 conclude “禮幼會比較好ｄ” 呢點啦, 我只可以講邊間教邊樣 “多d” (好似上面講用 contact hours 做
reference may be one option, but 都係唔係最好 ga la) 回應我上面講, 我唔認為 St Cat 冇宗教背景就會”比較唔關心” 學生品德同教育啦 (你咁出去問d St Cat mom你一定比人鬧…哈哈….注意文字既用字呀

), 每個用家都有佢地關注既野, 而 logic 上 “有教會背景=比較關心學生既品德教育”or vice versa (即係係唔係冇教會背景既就一定係冇咁關心德育呢...) 係冇 proofs ga wor…so 唔可以咁講的…right? 再者, 我再 recap what I always say before, 幼稚園係培養學生方面既手法真係唔係分別太大的 (當然乜野行業都有害群之馬, 但我睇唔到呢樣野係幼稚園有咁大既差異喇), so 我唔係行貨答你, 但答案真的如此 – 兩間都 care about students 的.

４）如果享呢兩個學校之間選擇，又需唔需要考慮小朋友本身既性格呢？如果要，我個仔係比較內向同埋慢熱，但係專注力又麻麻地，比依家N1既老師形容係成日唔留心果ｄ小朋友，又邊間邊比適合呢？幫到佢多ｄ？
==>我都係個句, 兩間既分別唔在於佢地收咩小朋友, 而係佢地主力做既野….我再講一次 (1) St Cat 係以培養學生學術(尤其英語) 為主, 其他既都會做, 但因為佢地令到更多學生考到 band 1出名小學先可以力保佢將來收生既能力, 佢一定唔可以 give up this point, 因為佢唔同禮賢, 佢有成大個教會頂住係背後, 壓力自冇 St Cat 咁大 (經費都可以由教會 support, 唔同 St Cat, 佢要自己承擔 all costs ga ma) so 禮賢響 syllabus 上自然有條件可以唔駛趕, 將時間平均d 分配響每一學科, 再加上佢有聯繫小學, 可以為其幼稚園畢業生提供到一條必要時既配套通道, 咁壓力自就更少, so it all depends 你想小朋友將來走條咩路喇…St Cat 既多會走d 較 competitive 既路, 有要求都唔係一件唔好既事丫, so 好睇家長自己取向而已…..相對, 入得禮賢既都唔係 highly competitive 既家長啦 (I would say)

ar....再補多一句, 你想為阿仔揀乜....唔多唔少都要睇埋你兩公婆既取向架嘛, 你阿仔性格仲係初成, 兩間都會幫到佢的, 專注力唔夠亦係小朋友普遍既現象, 我不大以為呢個會係 decision base at this stage, unless 你好明顯遲d 睇到更多呢方面既 evidence...反而...好似我上面同 kamanip 打既比喻咁....你問我買 "高增長基金" 定 "均衡基金" 好, 要 compare 兩隻之後再 recommend, 好難架. wor...睇你想 take 幾大 risk , 唔係我嘛~ :)

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彥媽:

你好！自去年要幫bb準備入讀K1,搵學校搵資料,然后知道你既topic后就一直追看至今，對我呢個新手媽咪來講真係幫助好大，學左好多野，多謝晒！

我係第一次發問，你的part 1 & 2都已睇晒，有明有晤明，放心，我會繼續溫書。

小兒係今年9月入讀k1，家住系你個舊居荔枝角果度，依家要享約克/迦南(金巴倫道,小兒亦正在呢間讀咁N1)/金巴倫英文幼稚園三間中選1。迦南現可申請學卷，我亦知道呢三間你都講過系商業性果種，但無奈我IN左好多間,現確定收同埋交左留位費亦系呢三間，如系你3選1你會選那一間呢？謝謝

小兒系細B,10/06出世,因我一直心儀培幼,所以今年滿3歲會讓佢去IN培幼,如收左一定會轉過去重讀培幼K1,但我必須要二手準備,萬一培幼晤收,咁就要讀回上述三間其中一間,所以我一路都煩咁晤知選邊一間,煩請彥媽可否告知三間邊間好地?謝謝

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windytiu:

小兒係今年9月入讀k1，家住系你個舊居荔枝角果度，依家要享約克/迦南(金巴倫道,小兒亦正在呢間讀咁N1)/金巴倫英文幼稚園三間中選1。迦南現可申請學卷，我亦知道呢三間你都講過系商業性果種，但無奈我IN左好多間,現確定收同埋交左留位費亦系呢三間，如系你3選1你會選那一間呢？謝謝
==> 三間我都真係冇乜所謂, 因為真係唔係差好遠, 當中要比較既係迦南搶手d, 佢自己都另有教開教育中心, 對教育佢都做得幾落力既, 真係要我三揀一, 我就會揀佢啦

小兒系細B,10/06出世,因我一直心儀培幼,所以今年滿3歲會讓佢去IN培幼,如收左一定會轉過去重讀培幼K1,但我必須要二手準備,萬一培幼晤收,咁就要讀回上述三間其中一間,所以我一路都煩咁晤知選邊一間,煩請彥媽可否告知三間邊間好地?謝謝
==> 首先, 我諗你都已 aware 你要考培正只可以考 2010/9 月個班, 即係會遲一年入學, 你或者覺得冇問題 (在我, 我都覺唔係早一年遲一年讀書分別唔係太大既, 只不過你係認為值唔值得而已, I would say 培正係學校, 不過, 唔係好到非讀不可既學校, 官津有好多都唔會差得過佢, 亦唔係一定要爭崩頭先抽得入個種既..多口講句, 睇 BK 冇問題, 但唔好 limit your choices on those schools d 媽咪們成日講個d, 成日講個d 唔代表一定好的, 相反, 呢樹有好多學校提都冇人提亦唔代表佢差呀, 只係個d 家長唔上呢個網, 又或...我可以講, 好多人係樹係 CD-ROM (ready only) 而已

不過...點都好, 既然喜歡既, 就去考左先喇...收先再諗都未遲呀...

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三間我都真係冇乜所謂, 因為真係唔係差好遠, 當中要比較既係迦南搶手d, 佢自己都另有教開教育中心, 對教育佢都做得幾落力既, 真係要我三揀一, 我就會揀佢啦

我問過好多媽咪,但佢地都同我講迦南所教的課程好淺,特別是英文堂,一星期得果六節,而且並不是日日有,怕佢上小學時會好辛苦;而約克同金巴倫都注重二文三語,系呢方面你又點睇呢?謝謝

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windytiu:

我問過好多媽咪,但佢地都同我講迦南所教的課程好淺,特別是英文堂,一星期得果六節,而且並不是日日有,怕佢上小學時會好辛苦;而約克同金巴倫都注重二文三語,系呢方面你又點睇呢?謝謝

==> 我揀學校一向唔係只 focus 語文 training (if you had read all my messages so far) , 我一向都話語文訓練係學校只係 part of it...reinforcement + follow up 先係鞏固既 most important factor...所以, 有冇兩文三語 (esp at KG stage) 本來對我就唔係一個 selling point, 咁我仲點會有咩可以睇呢...?? 但當然, 你既 priorities need not to be the same with me 既, right? 只係, 都係又想 remind you one point, 你問人係好, 多聽意見都係好, 只係...當你自己都唔係好知自己應該要乜, 同 base on 乜去揀學校既時候, 你越問人只會令自己覺得個個都講得岩, 又個個都唔係全部岩咁個停 feel, 得個亂字, 咁問黎做乜呢...?

so..the point is: 你若著重語文, 又認為 cannan 係呢方面唔及另外兩間既 (我冇 all data of these 3 schools), 咁揀 York or 金巴倫都冇問題 ga, 反正我都話三間係我眼中都唔係有太大分別既.

另....請恕我又再多口搭下訕 here: 你咁問令我會又有另一些 ??? 出現 in my mind...因為你一方面話"心儀培正", 但另一方面你又究竟知唔知道自己依家係去考一間乜野學校呢..?? cos based on your messages, 你俾我印象係, 似乎你想考培正只係因為人地話佢好, 有一條龍之類, 多過你真係因為你既實際需要而去考 bor...我怕你第日考得入會仲多野擔心bor...呵呵~ :)

因為....你上面寫 "一星期得果六節", 即係你嫌少喇...咁我會話你知培正唔見得多佢好多 wor...培幼三年都只係d 好 simple 既 phonics, 唔會有 sentences, vocabulary 乜滯, 咁你 OK or not sin?

另, 你又講 : "怕佢上小學時會好辛苦", 即係你想佢入一間都幾多英文既小學..?? 咁既話又 why 會想去培小..?? If 你想入培幼/小, 你應唔會太在意小朋友既英文程度 ga wor...你令我 quite puzzled here, cos 你想考/做既野, 同你講/問既野都唔 consistent ge? :?

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彥媽你好!

My girl Kiu Kiu is now 3yrs 2 mths going to be K1 student this coming Sept. She has been admitted by 1) St. Cat am (Eng/PTH) class & 2) SPK pm class.

For SPK, really totally unexpected, as too many kids enrolled and too short of the interview time, really don't know how good/bad our kids doing.

But now, really too fuzzy & don't know which one to go for, as take either one means going to be two different roads/directions for my girl.

What concern me most is that if take 2) SPK, I think I'll have to take my girl for more supplementary Eng/PTH classes outside school, though still worry its KG syllabus may quite simple compare to St Cat or others. Of cos the benefits will be not too much worry for future Primary & Secondary path.

For Kiu Kiu's personality, I think for this moment she is willing & eager to learn & present herself (provided she get used to the environment, incl. teachers/kids etc), and she likes build up habbits/customs for her own.

If living location will be on the least considering priority, any suggestion would you advise if you were me?

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估晤到彥彥媽咁快就回覆我,萬分感謝！

我揀學校一向唔係只 focus 語文 training (if you had read all my messages so far) , 我一向都話語文訓練係學校只係 part of it...reinforcement + follow up 先係鞏固既 most important factor...所以, 有冇兩文三語 (esp at KG stage) 本來對我就唔係一個 selling point, 咁我仲點會有咩可以睇呢...?? 但當然, 你既 priorities need not to be the same with me 既, right? 只係, 都係又想 remind you one point, 你問人係好, 多聽意見都係好, 只係...當你自己都唔係好知自己應該要乜, 同 base on 乜去揀學校既時候, 你越問人只會令自己覺得個個都講得岩, 又個個都唔係全部岩咁個停 feel, 得個亂字, 咁問黎做乜呢...?

====>>聽左你分析后我真系覺得慚愧,可能自己真系晤係好知自己想要地乜,所以系咁問人,但越問就越亂,好似間間都好,又好似差地野咁,唉

因為....你上面寫 "一星期得果六節", 即係你嫌少喇...咁我會話你知培正唔見得多佢好多 wor...培幼三年都只係d 好 simple 既 phonics, 唔會有 sentences, vocabulary 乜滯, 咁你 OK or not sin?

另, 你又講 : "怕佢上小學時會好辛苦", 即係你想佢入一間都幾多英文既小學..?? 咁既話又 why 會想去培小..?? If 你想入培幼/小, 你應唔會太在意小朋友既英文程度 ga wor...你令我 quite puzzled here, cos 你想考/做既野, 同你講/問既野都唔 consistent ge? :?

其實我咁講系因為我自己本身英文麻麻,同埋聽地媽咪講細細個俾小朋友系英文好地的學校讀對佢的英文會好地,當然我都知學校只系學習的一部份,最重要都系要睇家長系屋企時點教。我亦冇諗過之后一定要佢入有凢多英文的小學,只系以上三間幼稚園都差晤多,我晤知應以邊種類型來介定,只知以學術來講其中二間英文為賣點,加上自己又亂,所以先咁問。
我仲意培幼除左佢系一條龍,有政府津貼外,我亦仲意佢地教學方法同校風,我亦參考左好多培正學校的資料,教學方式等等,系眾多教學方法中我倒是滿仲意傳統教學方式,而培幼系各方面我都好仲意,或者咁樣講好似好空泛,亦如你所講,我想考/做既野同我想入培幼好似晤 consistent ,
但我真系一心想入培幼,呵呵,自己都晤知點解

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windytiu:

其實我咁講系因為我自己本身英文麻麻,同埋聽地媽咪講細細個俾小朋友系英文好地的學校讀對佢的英文會好地,
==> 唉...請又唔好怪我又出口了, 我都唔知應該形容你係一個 "樂於接受意見" 既人好丫, 定係 "耳仔軟" 好嘞.....你寫左咁多野都係令我覺得你之所以做某d 決定, 選某d 學校, 甚至應該為小朋友安排一d乜野既路都係由人地同你諗埋咁既....又係 "人地話" => 哎呀...唔好乜都人地話啦, 人地講緊係佢地自己個小朋友, 唔係你個個, 你可以聽完 (even my feedback here) 做參考去 set up 你自己既 preference 而唔係人地話乜好你就走去做, 乜唔好你又即刻 hesistate, 咁點搞呀.....你有冇聽過一句說話: "余之良藥, 汝之砒霜 " 呀?? 我對你最後有咩選擇都冇意見, 我亦會支持, 只係我好想你係要係好清楚自己點解要咁決定而先去決定, 而唔係受人地既說話去 influence 你呀 (你認同而去跟冇問題, 但你都唔知自己係唔係都認同就去跟就有問題)...小朋友係你既, 只有你同你老公先有責任去決定佢將來要行條咩路呀...how can you fulfill all the expectations of the others, esp those non-core members? 你咁做人咪會成日都好煩囉...? 我鄧你辛苦多d bor..對自己要有信心, 你用心做左就夠, 唔好成日四圍望, 之後又覺做得唔夠, 做左就向前望, or else you will just live a hard life. 與其只睇到自己因為英文麻麻所以人生中碰到好多釘子, why not 睇下依家你得到既亦唔少丫, 生活需不是最富裕, 但有個可愛既寶貝仔仔, 關心你既家人, 有個長長氣氣既彥媽唔會嫌你煩陪你打牙較 here, 都唔係一件 bad thing ar...hehehe....right? Learn to appreciate what you have sin la....:)

我仲意培幼除左佢系一條龍,有政府津貼外,我亦仲意佢地教學方法同校風,我亦參考左好多培正學校的資料,教學方式等等,系眾多教學方法中我倒是滿仲意傳統教學方式,而培幼系各方面我都好仲意,或者咁樣講好似好空泛,亦如你所講,我想考/做既野同我想入培幼好似晤 consistent ,
==> 我冇意見, 好多野係要自己親身經歷至會知, 亦會信的, 我會在此祝你成功呀 :)...考得入既就要俾心機讀呀..知嘛...你小朋友將來一定會明白你今日為佢既野而感激你的, bless you~!

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snoopybabi:

For SPK, really totally unexpected, as too many kids enrolled and too short of the interview time, really don't know how good/bad our kids doing.
==> Congratulations ar...you are the 2nd mom that I heard who had her daughter admitted to SPK ar...also PM class too ar...hehe...good good...! :)

What concern me most is that if take 2) SPK, I think I'll have to take my girl for more supplementary Eng/PTH classes outside school, though still worry its KG syllabus may quite simple compare to St Cat or others. Of cos the benefits will be not too much worry for future Primary & Secondary path.
==> You already know the difference between the two now..so what you need to consider is: (1) what are your priorities? (2) if the school that you prefer could not meet all your priorities, then do you think there is anything you can do to rectify those missing things? If yes, it would mean choosing that school is not a bad choice then.

For Kiu Kiu's personality, I think for this moment she is willing & eager to learn & present herself (provided she get used to the environment, incl. teachers/kids etc), and she likes build up habbits/customs for her own.
==> On one hand, I agree that parents should make decision based on the personality and ability of the kid, yet on the other hand, I would say, kids are still now at their "moulding stage", you could never tell how they would change in a few years time, and , provided the fact that 90% KGs are not too overloaded in terms of homework, both schools should match your kids' personality then.

If living location will be on the least considering priority, any suggestion would you advise if you were me?
==> SPK

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回覆 # 的文章

why not 睇下依家你得到既亦唔少丫, 生活需不是最富裕, 但有個可愛既寶貝仔仔, 關心你既家人, 有個長長氣氣既彥媽唔會嫌你煩陪你打牙較 here, 都唔係一件 bad thing ar...hehehe....right? Learn to appreciate what you have sin la....

====>>真系好多謝彥彥媽,冇錯,人生中有好多好的得著,同埋有你晤嫌我煩咁同我打牙較,我已好感恩了,對於選學校,我會認真再諗諗自己要地咩然后再選,謝謝你

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Hello Yin Yin Mami,

I'd like to get your opinion again.
My son is now studying in K1 in the Learning Habitat, a school which is around 5 minute walk from our home and quite good in English and Putongua training. My son starts studying in this kinder from PN and apparently LH is improving each year in terms of the cirriculum and communication.
Luckily, my son got an offer from CCKG for K2. CCKG is an old school which is famous for its primary allocation to DGS. But people told me the primary allocation to DBS is not that good and is getting worse each year. Some even said other primary will not accept CCKG's kids as they believe they only target to DBS. I'm not sure how true it is.
My target is to get my son trained to be a confident and outspoken kid with well balance knowledge. Do you have any suggestion whether I should change the school or not and the reason for such?
Thank.

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lawlinhy:

Luckily, my son got an offer from CCKG for K2. CCKG is an old school which is famous for its primary allocation to DGS. But people told me the primary allocation to DBS is not that good and is getting worse each year. Some even said other primary will not accept CCKG's kids as they believe they only target to DBS. I'm not sure how true it is.
==> In fact there are no significant proofs to show that CCKG did get more graduates who got admitted to DBS/DGS. And I would say it would rather be the background of the family, the capability of the kids (which is most important) that are being evaluated more than simply what KG they studied.

However, you may say that one success criteria of CCKG is the English environment + the teaching environment that trained kids to be more vocal and outspoken. A kid who could speak (not simply English, it could be Cantonese) with confidence for sure will catch the attention of the interviewers more than the other candidates.

CCKG adopts western's style of teaching, so I suppose this would probably help to drill the kids quite a bit here.

So from my point of view, unless I am really keen to send my kids to DGS/DBS/SPCC etc, otherwise, I can't see such a big need to change to CCKG provided that your kid is happy with where he is now, right?

My target is to get my son trained to be a confident and outspoken kid with well balance knowledge. Do you have any suggestion whether I should change the school or not and the reason for such?
==> Depends, as I said, there would be no "harm" changing the school, as kids are easy to mould at this age, yet I could not see big difference (or benefits) I should say to switch to CCKG , provided that you are not aimed at those famous school on the first priority.

What about proximity then? Is CCKG close to your home? Cost? Think about all these factors too if there are no big differences between two schools, cos these factors may help you to decide too.

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彥媽你好！一直喜歡追看你既野，幫助好大，多謝晒！

小兒今年讀k1, 培正及禮賢收咗, 佢性格十分活潑好動,亦好鍾意讀書學習, 專注力強, 但周身郁. 所以我地想佢讀小學時程度深d, 英文好, 活動多d, 培養自信, 又晤想太傳統或單向教學 or 太多規範 (易俾人blacklist)

培正及禮賢小學都係好學校, 但以上幾項點樣你又點睇呢? 培正會晤會好晤啱佢 ?

萬分感謝！

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tpybaby:

彥媽你好！一直喜歡追看你既野，幫助好大，多謝晒！
==>Welcome here!

小兒今年讀k1, 培正及禮賢收咗, 佢性格十分活潑好動,亦好鍾意讀書學習, 專注力強, 但周身郁. 所以我地想佢讀小學時程度深d, 英文好, 活動多d, 培養自信, 又晤想太傳統或單向教學 or 太多規範 (易俾人blacklist)

培正及禮賢小學都係好學校, 但以上幾項點樣你又點睇呢? 培正會晤會好晤啱佢 ?
==> 你本來都係培小個邊問完, 答你個幾個都係現任培正家長, 佢地唔係都俾左個答案你喇咩...呵呵...你依家黎呢邊問我係因為你唔信佢地既答案定係你唔死心, 覺得可能下一位家長既答案唔同, 咁就好喇..因為你小朋友考到呢兩間唔易考得入既學校, 你唔想 "浪費左個機會" 呢..??

彥媽講野一向都直既, 如有得罪, 唔好介意, 你問得人就要預左有時人地講出黎既野唔一定係你心中既 expected answer, 我諗呢點你會明既既, right? J

OK..back to your question...my answer will be the same as them. 我答野就會唔介意多打幾個字, 等你明白多d (I guess 你之所以再問都係認為人地俾你既答案唔得 convincing, 因為太簡單丫嘛...呵呵..right?)

OK, 未解釋 (justify) 我答案之前, 先同你分析下 (雖然我以下講既大多以小學為主, 你小朋友依家先入
K1好似唔多岩, 但我想提你一點既係, 你入得呢兩間幼稚園就要預埋上佢地小學, 唔係的話, 就唔一定要揀佢地
ga la)

1) 你話小朋友“佢性格十分活潑好動,亦好鍾意讀書學習, 專注力強, 但周身郁”….話時話, 依家十個有八個細路都係你形容呢類喇...to be honest, nothing very special here, 再者, 細路既性格行為係就係有先天影響, 但亦都會後天深受身邊既事物, esp 家長, 去影響而改變, or maybe I explain a bit more here: somehow personality 係天生 (i.e. 活潑係"性格" Personality), 因為活潑故而鍾意走黎走去係 "行為" (behaviour), 性格係好難去改變, 但行為係可以 control 同塑造的, e.g. 小朋友係好活潑, 但你可以透過教導令佢明白, 係有人既地方就要表現守規既行為, i.e. 企定, 唔出聲...之類...性格既根本冇變, 變既係佢要學懂係唔同既情景下表現出被人接受既行為...就呢點, 有d 小朋友可以做得到, 有d 就唔得, did you get my point here?

2) 你講既野都有d 矛盾, 你話佢專注力強..how did you say so? If yes, why he will 周身郁? Any behaviour evidence that you have seen? And, are they consistent? 基本上呢兩樣係 contradicting 既行為, 一般來講, 小朋友好難係郁身郁勢既情況下又可以專注架 wor..(大人都難啦), 咁你究竟係唔係想講佢係 "遇到有趣既事既時候就會專注" , otherwise 就同身郁先..?? 係既話, 咁我又會話你知好多小朋友都係咁架 wor...細路既 attention span 一向都唔強, 大人老師好多時都要出盡法寶先可以令佢地 continuously 咁投入一件事架 wor...咁究竟佢係專注個方面多d 定係周身郁呢樣多d 先? 又, 佢是否去到資優既水平? 一般學習能力高既小朋友都有機會係資優, 但我想講既另一點亦係…禮賢我冇小朋友讀過我唔敢講, 但 for sure 培正係冇足夠資源去 deal with gifted children 既

(to be continued)

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(....continued...to tpybaby)

3) 另…請再恕我直言 here, 你上面所要求既野, 好老實, 有d 近乎 "完美主義" (用d layman D 既字眼係 "有d 貪心", sorry to say so, but I do feel that) 你試諗下, 又要間學校 "程度深d, 英文好, 活動多d, 培養自信, 又晤想太傳統或單向教學 or 太多規範 (易俾人blacklist) ", 我打個笑話比喻就係 : "我想嫁既老公係: 又要叻, 讀得書多, 英文好, 要專注事業既, 但又要識得返到屋企陪我玩, 同我講下笑, 要有自信, 又尊師重道, 對家人好, 但人地做錯野又唔會嬲人同 blacklist 人, 識得雙向溝通, 又會俾人機會講野同聆聽...." 之類...嘩~~好老實, 你真係揾得到咁既人唔該話聲俾彥媽知, 我第一時間改嫁先得...hehehe

好多野 (if 你有睇開我講既野就知) 係 give and take, 一間學校要做到教學水平高, 自然就要教得較深同教得多, in this case, 若唔坐定定, 又或老師仲要係 35 mins 一堂裡面花 15 mins 以上去 fix d 四維走學生既問題既話, 我諗都真係幾為難, 我明白作為家長係想所有野都兼得, 但我亦會請你明白學校既立場, 老師既 constraints , 要上堂唔係單向教授, 就即係要 Q&A, discussion, 咁既話, I wonder 35 mins 既 lesson 可以教到幾多野? 另...以一班依家 (even 小班教學黎計) 係 30 人, if 每人只講 1 mins 既說話, 成堂都唔見哂喇...咁點教呢..?? 我之所以打咁多個字 here 係想你嘗試睇一件事既多角面, 咁你就會知點解我成日話 made decision 唔得貪心, 只得排 priority , 因為事實就係, there is no perfectionism in the world...希望你明白呀.

So now…..依家你要知既係: Both 禮賢同培正都係傳統學校, 對行為規矩都有著一定既堅持, 另一方面, 呢兩間都係有小學 back up (禮小可以有 around 70% 左右上得番去, 培小就係 100% guarantee 入番), 咁既話, 係編排 curriculum 既自然同d 要靠畢業生省靚招牌考入一線小學既幼稚園不可相提並論, 因為大家 starting point 都唔同,另…單向教學大致上係香港教育既基本模式, 上到小學尤甚, 呢點係基於人數> 學校喇…除非係真正做到小班教學, otherwise 我睇唔到可以點可以行得到雙向 discussion/facilitation based 既教學.

Then that’s why 我都支持 other培正 mom 俾你既 advice, PC 唔會 meet 到你上面講既 requirement, 但當然, 就小朋友行為上, 你若認為小朋友可以坐得定, 專心得到既都可以試下既.

再多口一句, 你講到既要求初步我覺似係 international schools 個類, 但問題係, IS 又唔”深” ga wor…所以..哎~都唔知可以 recommend 咩俾你好了(if 你仍然 hold 住你既 criterias as stated above), or ..maybe you can try those DSS, e.g. DBS, 弘立之類, maybe 可以近少少.
但再多口講句, 你若真係打算考呢類小學 in future, 咁培幼/禮幼就更應該唔係 your cup of tea 了.

不如咁啦, 再俾少少時間自己, 諗諗到底咩 criteria 到你先係最重要, 再先 match with 學校睇夾唔夾到啦… :)

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彥彥媽, thanks so much for your very very detail and promptly reply, it helps us much. You are so nice !!!

We have visited KRS last Saturday on its open day, and found it a nice school as we expected - teachers are very nice, small group teaching is emphasized, and the students are good at communication in general. We believe it would be an enough good choice (may not be the best) for our son.

The reason we want to ask PC mum is we don't want to waste the choice of PC due to incorrect/insufficient information (PC is not so transparent). We can't find information about its teaching method, though small class but we worry if it values communication. Except this, we think PC leads KRS in many other aspects.

Again, thank you for using your invaluable time to reply me. That absolutely can stop me from making further query la, haha.

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