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81#
發表於 06-8-22 04:34 |只看該作者

Re: 真係想笠佢地麻包袋...

係呀citadel,
我上到去見到果班不知所謂外傭,真係火都黎
我自問真係好彩,我同家人所請過外傭都係絕哂種果D,所以無你地D問題(你可見到我出過TOPIC讚工人)呢排幫得朋友多,上到勞資好似我地係殺人犯同律師咁,要自己搵證據證明自己無罪,乜唔係雙方都要咩?原來唔係,外傭只要帶身份證/PASSPORT就告得,齋講,連文件都唔使出示就可告僱主任何野,你話死唔死?
呢個外傭政策真係害死好多守法僱主,因為就算守法,上到勞資庭之前就逼僱主放棄,同古時屈打成招同一道理,直接助長外傭用呢招屈錢同變相留港搵新水魚


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82#
發表於 06-8-22 12:56 |只看該作者

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I don't know why in Indonesia, they rebel Chinese.

Now, in HK, those Indonesian maids still take advantage of Chinese.

We consume so many tax-payers' $$$ (labour-dept, court) on the maid. What's for? Why in Singapore, maid's pay is much lower than HK and no holidays, but why no maids dare to sue!!!!

Why HK people have to suffer!!!!

They lie, they win. We say the truth, we lose! What kind of logic?????


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83#
發表於 06-8-22 13:30 |只看該作者

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I called labour dept and they said if I got a signed receipt from the maid, it is a valid proof already. But some people told me, the maid would say that I force her to sign, any comment?


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84#
發表於 06-8-22 14:35 |只看該作者

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WaWaMom 寫道:
I called labour dept and they said if I got a signed receipt from the maid, it is a valid proof already. But some people told me, the maid would say that I force her to sign, any comment?

係呀!所以一定要保障自己,用支票/銀行過數,仲一定要簽假期!


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85#
發表於 06-8-22 15:06 |只看該作者

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0甘我想問, 係唔係用支票, 有簽收, 有寫假, 就基本上已經可以保障到啦? (因為睇左0甘多case, 好多都係話, 佢出去識埋d衰人, 就走去告僱主! 唔比佢放假又唔得, 佢要出去識咩人, 又管唔到, 真係仲慘過教仔呀!) 又要隔山買牛, 又冇試用期, 又要睇佢面色, 唔鐘意佢又要"請"佢走, 佢仲好過我地!
:-( :-( :-(


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86#
發表於 06-8-22 15:10 |只看該作者

Re: 真係想笠佢地麻包袋...

答案係[size=x-large]全對

仲要keep齊鎖起哂,可以的話唔放屋企最好,因為之前有個媽咪俾印印偷哂同改哂出糧單據,仲特登告佢搞了幾個月!


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87#
發表於 06-8-23 09:24 |只看該作者

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winnie_sh

好多謝你既答案!


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88#
發表於 06-8-23 13:04 |只看該作者

Re: 真係想笠佢地麻包袋...

Thank you very much winnie_sh.

The maid sue me that I didn't give her food and proper place to sleep!!! She has her own bedroom and washroom (we rarely use her bathroom as she is pretty dirty). How can I prove it?

However, she didn't sue me for underpaid as she did send a lot of $$$ to her family before!!!! I think she realized that point.

They are pretty smart in lying! If they use their smartness at work, sure HK employer don't mind to pay them more! However, with such quality, it is not worthy to pay!!!!

Being working mom, we are busy with work and our families, no time for us to think of anything to trick maid! On the other hand, they have a lot of free time chatting on the phone and can trick us easily!

It is a nightmare in my life!!!!!


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89#
發表於 06-8-23 15:54 |只看該作者

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WaWaMom ,

唔使擔心,一般法官都唔易相信香港僱主唔俾飯外傭食,因為我地有個BK媽咪上了法庭,個外傭又係咁樣告僱主,個官反問外傭咁你平時食乜?仲未死?
訓覺呢個問題好易,我地一早教了個媽咪影幾張外傭訓覺地方,即可以使用私人休息地方,拎上法庭........點知呀靚媽咪懶,無影到,個官要僱主後補,又延期兩個禮拜!
你唔使擔心,只要你影底外傭訓覺地方,出示完個官會相信你有比食物外傭架啦!

我同呀Fa講到呢個問題,我提議得閒就親開飯時同外傭影張相收埋,等第時唔驚啦啦俾外傭告oY嘛!

唔使驚喎?個個外傭告到法庭都係用呢招架!


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90#
發表於 06-8-23 20:50 |只看該作者

Re: 真係想笠佢地麻包袋...

Thanks winnie_sh's advise.

Which party usually be the winner? I am headache in handling the case already. Spend me so much time to do something non-productive!!!!

I have to sue her back for mental abuse! Can I?


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91#
發表於 06-8-23 20:59 |只看該作者

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WaWaMom,

得,無話唔得架,不過要你自己搵律師民事告佢就得囉!告入唔入佢都無錢比架啦!
勞資庭只係處理僱傭之間架咋,所以你呢個問題之前有媽咪問過架啦!


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92#
發表於 06-8-23 21:07 |只看該作者

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winnie_sh,
You are very helpful.

In other words, it is not fair! No wonder HK's economy is getting worse as HK spent too many resources on overseas maids!

I went to immigration office (oversea DH seciont) this afternoon and 85% of seats are occupied by maids! They sit there chatted and enjoy the air-condition!


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93#
發表於 06-8-23 22:07 |只看該作者

Re: 真係想笠佢地麻包袋...

所以我同幾位家傭版戰友就係自願上勞工處抗戰,之後返黎BK教大家點做,好似俾大家多條生路可以點先唔怕外傭告。

老實講,我九月返番工,到時可能無時間上勞資庭抗戰,我都頭癢緊,應該可以就到放假的...

我只怕有其他人覺得我多事,我覺得幫人係我的興趣,不過我好怕影響到屋企,因我老公經常話我幫人幫到過火位,又使錢又浪費時間...但我現時只會幫我識得o既朋友出頭,再從case內學識點抗戰外傭後返黎BK教大家!


洋房

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94#
發表於 06-8-24 12:23 |只看該作者

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winnie-sh
你真係好, 有好多人都唔會0甘做, 唔好講話仲要出錢出力, 我相信好多媽咪都多謝你, 因為你既見識, 比我地都學到好多野!


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95#
發表於 06-8-24 12:41 |只看該作者

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winnie-sh


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96#
發表於 06-8-24 18:12 |只看該作者

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嘩!


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發表於 06-8-24 19:29 |只看該作者

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dinosaur923 & WaWaMom,

真係唔使讚我架,我只係唔順眼睇見咁多媽咪比外傭蝦,好似香港人大把錢咁,其實上到勞工處,見到咁多外傭識途老馬,告人程序佢地真係熟都爆,個主任直頭同我講係咁架啦,只要D僱主識保障自己簽齊文件同唔怕忙都唔使驚,因為跌錢俾外傭果班僱主太容易俾錢解決事情,長遠咪搞到外傭習慣性告一告睇下有無著數囉!

我就係唔抵得先幫朋友抵抗到底之嘛,根本上外傭係有工會教路,而僱主就無,搞到第一堂見調解官,僱主都怕哂佢地工會,又嘈又嚇個僱主,無人陪果D僱主怕到死,清一式俾錢算數,唉!依家睇到逐漸有會員聽我地教路而唔使再跌錢錢,個心都有D安慰架!


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99#
發表於 06-8-24 19:32 |只看該作者

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咁d工人告親我地都係民事﹐舉證就係我地度;我地告佢地偷就係刑事﹐舉證又係係我地度;有得告返佢地既民事﹐就算勝佢地都無錢賠﹐咁我地咪好慘 :-( :-(


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