Haven't been on here for just two days, your thread is packed with questions.
After 5 days of day 3 transfer, I checked with home pregnancy test and have bingo sign. For the following three days, I kept on checking and result remains positive. I have never had this experience before with my prior cycle.
However, I called up my doctor and informed her of my case. The reaction was it was "false positive" due to the medication. Like pour cold water over me. I thought she will feel happy for me for this first time.
I reiterated that 1) with my prior injections, I did not even experience this so-called "false positive'. 2) This time, my feeling in the tummy is different from M come feeling. THere is pulling in my uterus. My uterus like "dan dan ha". Starting last night, I have frequent urgent urination three times a night. My body is telling me this time is different.
Why can't my doctor be feeling happy for me? Is there really a think of false negative given I haven't experienced the same with my prior injections. It's not easy to have a "double line" gar.
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I have to agree with your doctor that the "double line" you saw was a false-positive. Please see my detailed reply below.
發表於 11-5-16 13:34
cutecutetown
Dear Bigears, The 2 weeks of waiting is always a torture, sometimes even more so than the physical pain from the numerous stimulation injections. Have some patience, time will fly.
發表於 11-5-16 13:50
cutecutetown
Dear mother2be, PLEASE DON'T ASK JM's TO CHECK BINGO. When you check, you need to check at the right time; I don't want to see any unnecessary heart-breaking due to false-positives!!
發表於 11-5-16 13:44
mother2be
Bigears, did you use home pregnancy test to check bingo at home?
發表於 11-5-16 13:17
Daily blood check should be able to almost pinpoint which day ovulation occurs; by the way, the hormone here is LH. Its level rises until reaching a sharp peak before it comes down. By checking daily, we are still not able to find the peak point, but we are able to see its rise and fall and therefore deduce when the peak point happens. That's about the time ovulation will occur. But again, it's not a quick "pop" of the follicle and a quick release of the egg. Imagine it as a gradual process rather than a 30-second event.
I suspect sometimes, blood labs may not be reporting the LH level soon enough for ivf's quick judgement (due to weekend work schedule perhaps?). Whatever case it is, ivf doctors are very good with whatever blood reports given around those days; and the lab will also coordinate the thawing to match with your uterus receptive time frame. I think you won't need to check ovulation at home; your money needs to be spent on more worthwhile causes :)
I am sorry to say that I also need to "pour cold water over you" as well. One of the luteal support given to you was Ovidrel, which contains more than enough HCG hormone to give that double line on any bingo test. There are reasons why we only advise you to check bingo 2 weeks after ET, and this "false-positive" is definitely one of them. Don't try to out-smart your doctor and get her angry.
I really hope you are indeed pregnant, especially now your hope has reached the top. I also hope the different tummy feeling than last time has given you the correct sign. Very honestly, suppose implantation did occur, the HCG produced by your implanted embryo is not high enough yet to be detectable on a home-pregnancy test. From now till your set date for bingo test, I suggest you stop wasting money in trying to see the "double line".
At the moment, there is no way to tell, you may be pregnant, or you may be not. Just relax for one more week.
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mother2be
Hearing your comment is much more comforting to me. I just want to hear your view. haha. It's the first time for me to see "double line". I was super thrilled. Now, I'd better be cautiously optimi
發表於 11-5-16 13:46
I am more relieved hearing your optimism. I think you have a good chance, but still need a little bit of patience just-in-case...
Hang in there, you also happily passed one week and about one more week before the real bingo check.
Add Oil, and add double oil esp. for you and Bigears.
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mother2be
Yes, I remain cautiously optimisitic. According to my history, I am not responsive to the medication. The HCG injection doesn't stay in my body for long. I didn't see "double line" in my previous
發表於 11-5-16 16:29
Thanks for your reply and I have been bed resting for the last 2 weeks.. everything was fine just sometimes feeling little pain... This morning I went to QM for urine test checkup and it confirmed positive... However, the pain has come back with slightly brownish feeling like period... The nurse told me that it's normal and some people even bleeding a bit.. Then, when I got home this afternoon, it had little blood when I went to pee.. Does this mean that it's unstable and it's going to lose it? I keep sitting and lying on the bed now.. please shed some lights what should I do now?
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See if bed rest helps. The spotting/bleeding usually subsides even if you don't do anything; but still, try to avoid stress. In case if bleeding worsens, contact QM clinic.
發表於 11-5-16 23:48
Please don't panic. I also had IVF in QM and bleed last week with red blood just before th positive result. Fortunately it stopped and my test today showed the liitle one is still here. I miscarriaged in Jan and at that time, there was no any discomfort at all. No bleeding, no brown spot and no abdominal pain. Of course you should watch out for any worsening of the sign and stay rest for these few days. But all I want to say is stay positive. There is no definitive ign of a vuakeor not vuble baby. Prepared for the worst and hope for the best.
Hehe! Sorry Cucutetoen that I have used some of your space. Just want to comfort the anxious jm!
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Thank you GentooMama. Glad to know you are doing fine as well :)
I really love what you said, "prepare for the worst & hope for the best", so true in walking through this journey for many jm's.
發表於 11-5-16 23:44
Hi GentooMama,
Thanks so much for your sharing and encouragement... I feel a lot better now... seems stop bleeding.. You are right.. nothing is definite.. just prepare for the worst and hope for the best... Let's do it together la...
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cutecutetown
Will "add oil" for you. I can see plenty of positive energy here in among jm's, keep this rolling, we need it!
發表於 11-5-16 23:51
It's me again. May I know if as long as there is enough HCG in a woman's bloodstream (detectable by HPT for example), then miss M won't come?
Thanks again for your help.
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cutecutetown
Yes, enough HCG, miss M won't come; but.... spotting/minor bleeding is not equivalent to miss M. What are you thinking?? Hope your imagination won't go too far.
發表於 11-5-17 11:38
cutecutetown
With fever that comes & goes so quickly, I wouldn't worry too much. Take it easy today, sleep well tonight, and see how you feel tomorrow. Wish you well :)
發表於 11-5-17 11:42
I was supposed to use an icon with "hehe" smile, didn't expect the icon came up with a knife.
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cutecutetown
The icon is still "he he", and the knife probably means that you should cut out any bingo check from your daily life for 5 more days.
發表於 11-5-17 11:45
My HCG level remains positive. I am thinking whether it is from the injections or my own system, it will keep miss M from coming. That's all. No imagination...don't dare to think to much.
I'm new here and is glad to find such an informative and supportive thread. I'm really new to IVF and don't know much. Just want to share my case and see if you have any comments and suggestions.
I'll 32 years old in 2 months time. We started to plan for pregnancy 3 years ago but in vain of course. Then I found a 4-5cm fibroid in the uterus but most doctors said it's unrelated to the infertility. I underwent a laparoscopic surgery last year and confirmed that my all my "hardware" should be fine. The doctors concluded our case as unexplained infertility. We then did 3 cycles of IUIs in a public hospital. The doctors said I was very responsive to the drug, follicles and uterine walls all looked good. The reports of my hubby's sperm test are generally good, except for the morphology rating, which lies in the borderline, but the doctors opined that it should be fine. However, we failed in all the 3 cycles.
So we finally decided to try IVF this cycle. And today I had my 4th injection of Gonal-F (150iu). I noticed that my legs and hip areas have become much swollen. I wonder it might be side effect of the injection.
Two more things that puzzle me...
1. My menstrual cycles are regular all along, and with the help of ovlulation test paper, I know that I usually ovulate at around day 16-18 and then m come on day 28-32. But after I did IUIs, I notice that my cycles become shorter on alternate month. I ovulated on day 12 or 13, and the cycles were shortened to 25-26 days. I read that ovarian fucntions will degenerate with age and giving shorter cycle. I'm worrying that will it be the lingering effects of IUI (last IUI done in dec 2010)?
2. Although now my IVF doctor opined that the fibroid is not related to infertility, he told me in last U/S examination that the position of the fibroid has pushed one of the ovaries further away, which may post difficulties in extracting eggs from that side. The doctor briefly discussed with us this complication in relation to OHSS and not enough eggs if rely on one side only. What do you think? Is such case common? I mean that not both ovaries are available for doing IVF. How will the success rate be affected?
I think your swollen legs and hip areas may be due to the injections; but did you inject Gonal-F on your belly? Did you have Gonal-F, or other injections, previously when doing the 3 IUIs? You may want to let your clinic know and see if your doctor will change the kind of injections you get.
1. If you had some hormonal injections (HMG,Gonal-F,etc.) before the IUI procedure and then also had luteal phase support (e.g. Crinone/Endometrin), your cycle right after this IUI might indeed be "confused". Your cycles should resume its regular cyclicity afterwards. A short-term effect only. Given your one-time shortened cycle and its length was still within the normal range, you don't have to worry.
2. There are certainly occasions when the ovaries are hard to access during egg retrievals, but not all are due to fibroids. All doctors try to harvest the eggs from the "hidden" ovary, usually successful, but when it becomes too difficult or impossible, they have to balance wasting the eggs from that ovary and the risks of bleeding and other complications on you.
While I don't know how much the fibroid has pushed your ovary further away, your doctor will make his medical judgment on whether to give you more Gonal-F to increase the yield from one ovary only or just stay on the same dosage so the the risk of OHSS may be avoided. In view of your young age, good response to stimulation drugs, 1st time IVF and reasonable hubby's sperm, I don't think you should risk yourself of OHSS by pushing both ovaries to produce more eggs simply to compensate for an inaccessible ovary. If both your ovaries function equally well and produce similar no. of eggs, your cumulative chance may be lower, but the immediate success rate should be minimally affected if affected at all.
I had constantly stomach pain yesterday almost whole day so I went to see doctor yesterday pm and he said nothing can be done at this stage and suggested to have blood test to check on the hormone's index.
After I returned home, 2 little blood clots came out when I pee, but not much blood though.. After that, no more pain for the night up to now.. not sure if I missed it or not..
The doctor called just now and told me the hormone index is relatively lower than normal.. normal is 2000 and mine is 800 only. But this doesn't mean abnormal.. He asked me to have another blood test again after 48hrs, meaning tomorrow to see if any upward index cos usually it will be double of the previous day.. well.. c'est la vie! I will go have the blood test..
With my current situation, what's your advice please...?
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Not until the blood test ... and result... tomorrow, we can only wait. Stay calm and try to place your attention on something else.
發表於 11-5-18 14:09
yes, i got my gonal-f injection into my belly this time. i talked to my dr today but he didn't reply directly. but from his responses i inferred that it's no big deal and should be my exaggeration perhaps coz afterall i just got 4 injections. i regretted not having marked down the name of the medications i used for IUIs, it's injected into my pat pat at that time...
so there is both good news and bad news from my U/S examination today. i got 4-5 follicles from each ovary, and their q. evenly developed, around 9x11mm. dr opined that this size is acceptable for it's just day 7 of the cycle. but my unterine wall is thicker than normal, already 13mm. the dr decided to continue 150iu of gonal-f and will start 0.25 of E2 from day 9 onwards. I have blood test today, LH & E2, but i don't know the result yet.
what will be the possible consequences for uterine wall being too thick? do you think my responses so far is promising for doing IVF this cycle?
I finally had my FET la.....it's a non-natural cycle FET and therefore i need vaginal progesterone and its shot. on third day after FET, i had blood testing and it's found that i have deficiency in progesterone (18.6) which the nurse said low and therefore i got a HCG injection. from your understanding, is it very low? what will the effect of such low progesterone? will i be continuing to have such low progesterone which reduce the success rate? what causes do you suspect?
i am not that optimistic by now due to such blood test result ar....
I did FET this afternoon. I've 4 FE, but found that 3 of them did not grow after un-freeze this morning. So finally, I can only transfer 1 FE. How come the embryos won't grow? They are all grade 1 or 1-... Doctor mentioned that it's not bad, the one grow from 9-cell to 12-cell FE is in good condition. And FET helps to reassure that the transfer embryo is healthy...that more guarantee or higher chance to get pregent...what do u think?
But anyway, nothing can be do, just be positive and relax!!
Very honestly, I do get upset when docs (or the ivf clinics) don't show much care outside of the "chargeable" and "legally liable" elements of a treatment. The whole process, including patient's physical & emotional well-being, contributes to success and failure. And recently, I am very very upset and disappointed with the sub-standard treatment I've heard.
I suppose if your dr doesn't say much about your swollen leg and hip, health-wise you are probably ok, except having to cope with the uncomfortable feeling and perhaps need to wear looser pants?! My advice is to still keep an eye on the swollen feeling, if it worsens, tell your dr again.
Don't worry about the name of the IUI medication. My reason for asking is to see if you had Gonal-F before and had the swollen reaction back then; obviously, Gonal-F is something new this time. But as said above, your dr doesn't seem to care, I can't do much.
Uterine or endometrial lining is where the embryo should implant. Too thin or too thick is not good for implantation. Apart from the endometrial lining, which is still early to say whether it's too thick not not, your overall response to stimulation is fine. For now, being day 7, I will hope when you visit your dr again (perhaps around day10), your follicles/eggs should be almost ready for retrieval. Looks promising so far up to this time point.
Keep optimistic, and I hope your swollen hip/leg will get better.
cutecutetown
I might have missed the info if you did post it before, did you use hormonal replacement method for FET? I am not too certain about your meaning of a non-natural cycle FET.
In any case, are you sure the shots were progesterone? (Generally, if you take the shot daily, then it's progesterone; if every 3 days or so, it is HCG.) It's a little odd to me that you are getting both vaginal progesterone and progesterone injections; usually, it's one or the other, not both. If you are given only vaginal progesterone, the blood level is not too low. However, if you are certain that the shots were indeed progesterone, then you should still be ok now that you got an HCG injection.
Do you do the progesterone shots yourself at home? Some women are indeed deficient in progesterone, while some are not administering the shots properly. But no matter what, progesterone can be supplemented. That's why your blood level was checked and your doctor had adjusted for you accordingly.
Since I am not too clear on the overall picture, I don't want to speculate because it may scare you or give you false-hope. Do you know what embryos/blastocysts were transferred into your womb?
In the mean time, you should not worry about the blood test result at all. When will be your next visit to your doctor?
cutecutetown
May I know if as long as there is enough HCG in a woman's bloodstream (detectable by HPT for example), then miss M won't come?
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