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男爵府

積分: 9498


1121#
發表於 11-6-3 22:46 |只看該作者
回覆 mother2be 的帖子

Dear mother2be,

Estrofem is also estrogen, helping to prepare your endometrial lining better.

Bravelle is FSH which encourages the growth of your follicle. When the egg inside this follicle has good growth, it will produce estrogen which in turn prepare the endometrium. Generally, the interactions among various hormones (produced by your body now because you are using your natural cycle) are orchestrated to create a good environment in the uterus for implantation.

I just don't like the chinese medicine part of your cycle; are you still taking it? Is your ivf doctor aware of you taking chinese medicine? If he/she doesn't know, I suggest you may consider stopping it.

cutecutetown


大宅

積分: 2731


1122#
發表於 11-6-4 00:33 |只看該作者
回覆 cutecutetown 的帖子

Thanks for your information. I am clear of what I am doing now.

My mum just told me on the phone that my younger sister (who don't know about my sitaution) has been telling her that once I have a child/children, she will help me to take care of them and teach them the method of studying (as my sister is very good at flexibly study and flies high). I was so touched by my sister's care. Even though she is still single, she put my stuff in her mind all the time.

It's time for me to stop self-pity and count the blessings of what I have. I will try my best at my reasonable effort. I realise there is something that is out of my control no matter how hard I work on.

I will forget about the timeline / milestone...just let it be. I used to be a discipline person who aim to do certain things at certain stage. I am letting go on this now...this is probably a lesson God wants me to learn.

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bbtam  Add oil !  發表於 11-6-4 10:02


大宅

積分: 1651

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1123#
發表於 11-6-4 13:10 |只看該作者
Hi cutecutetown,

I'm ready. To me, aging is a big pressure. So just keep waiting and do nothing is another big pressure. Since my oviducts are blocked, so the only way is to have IVF. So I wanna try this month. And last month, I'm using natural cycle for FET, no mediciation. So Dr. adviced that it should be OK but of course, up to my readiness...

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cutecutetown  Many (both the woman & her eggs) do somewhat better than the 1st cycle.  Add oil with best wishes!  發表於 11-6-5 10:06
cutecutetown  Is this your 2nd IVF cycle with egg retrieval?  發表於 11-6-5 10:05


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積分: 1651

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1124#
發表於 11-6-5 23:04 |只看該作者
Hi cutecutetown,

Yes, it's my 2nd IVF with eggs retrieval...really? Many women having better eggs in 2nd IVF?? I hope so and I'll do my best, will update u. Today is the 4th injection!

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cutecutetown  Won't be worse, have faith!  Add oil!!  發表於 11-6-6 14:07


大宅

積分: 2731


1125#
發表於 11-6-7 16:26 |只看該作者
Dear Cutecutetown,

It's me again. I've some updates. Today is day 15, my uterus lining is fine at 10.2mm (it has grown by 1mm each day) with 3 layers. My LH just surged today. So, ovulation will be on Thu. So, I still have a few days to catch up with uterus lining thickness. because of timing reason, I will do transfer on Monday (day 4 after ovulation). As such, my doctor will thaw my embroyos overnight and cultivate it till day 4. If it keeps growing, it will look like "1 pad yeh" on Monday. Fine for me.

1. My question is, is it ok to transfer embroyos on day 4 when its condition is in morula stage? Ive never heard of transferring day 4 embroyos. I am just afraid there is technical difficult to transfer a day 4 "1 pad yeh". Usually, Day 3 or Day 5 embroyos are transferred because it is at a stage that is easier to handle. Does my concern exist?

2. This time, I will use assisted hatching. A hole will be made on my embroyos on day 3 and continue to be cultivated on day 4. I have no question on this, unless you spot something.

Thanks again for your help.
Mother2be

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糟糟豬  add oil ah mother2be! all the best!  發表於 11-6-9 09:35


大宅

積分: 3300


1126#
發表於 11-6-7 16:42 |只看該作者
回覆 cutecutetown 的帖子

Hi cutecutetown,

I'll start ivf treatment next month and I want to buy gonal F by myself as it is so expensive if buy this through hospital.
Could you please advise where I can buy in HK.
Many thanks.

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cutecutetown  Are you sure you need to buy through hospital, or from your doctor (of a private clinic)??  發表於 11-6-7 23:36
cutecutetown  My understanding is that you can't buy it direct on your own.  發表於 11-6-7 23:35


男爵府

積分: 9498


1127#
發表於 11-6-7 23:32 |只看該作者
回覆 mother2be 的帖子

Dear mother2be,

Great, progress looks good. 10.2mm is just fine; it may increase a little more, but even if it won't, it is already a very good lining.

1. No issue with day 4 transfer. It is not a routine in fresh ET because "1 pad yeh" is quite difficult to grade (but I did a fair amount of these with a doctor I previously worked with, bingo rate was just as good). Embryos at all stages are the same in terms of handling and ET techniques.

2. Logical, now that you had 3 times of failed implantation despite good embryos, it's reasonable to perform assisted hatching.

Good luck, I really hope your 2 embryos will thaw out fine and keep on growing.
cutecutetown


大宅

積分: 2731


1128#
發表於 11-6-8 10:05 |只看該作者
回覆 cutecutetown 的帖子

Dear Cutecutetown,

Thanks for your information.

My LH surged on 7th Jun (Tue). When does ovulation usually happen? Some doctor said 24 hours (i.e. 8th Jun), some said 36 hours (9th Jun). I want to know the timing to find for the best time to do FET.

I am trying to be relax this time and see how it will help me. Technically, I had two transfers only. My embroyos didn't grow well after thawing in last FET. So, I do not count that transfer which is a waste of money.

Relax Mother2be


男爵府

積分: 9498


1129#
發表於 11-6-8 12:06 |只看該作者
本帖最後由 cutecutetown 於 11-6-8 12:07 編輯

回覆 mother2be 的帖子

Dear mother2be,

We can't really pinpoint the exact time (accurate to the hour) of an LH surge; and therefore, some doctor said 24 hrs while some said 36 hrs. Besides, implantation time is not an exact "time", instead, think of it as the optimal time frame in which implantation can occur. In other words, implantation occurs within this time frame which spans over a few days, not hours. So, I am sure your doctor has already told you the day you should return for your FET.

OK, 2 transfers with good embryos then (I mean, your previous attempts). Relax and take it easy.
cutecutetown


大宅

積分: 3300


1130#
發表於 11-6-8 12:37 |只看該作者
回覆 desire08 的帖子

My ivf treatment will be undergone at HK Government Hospital. As gonal F is very expensive and checked with Hospital
that I can buy by myself, I therefore try to search any other clinic can sell to patient with dr's referral.
Kindly please advise.

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cutecutetown  I doubt if any other clinic can offer a cheaper price than a HK Gvt Hospital.  發表於 11-6-8 17:29


男爵府

積分: 6513


1131#
發表於 11-6-9 20:06 |只看該作者
Dear Cutecutetown,

我6月1日FET,今日用驗孕棒顯示無BINGO到,,我好唔開心,因為呢粒胚胎應該係最好O個粒,呢粒唔BINGO,之後O個D機會咪仲低。。。

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cutecutetown  It's still a little early to check, especially if you only transferred 1 embryo.  發表於 11-6-9 22:57


男爵府

積分: 9498


1132#
發表於 11-6-9 23:09 |只看該作者
回覆 littleantant 的帖子

Dear littleantant,

It has only been ~8 days since your FET. Even if one embryo has implanted, the HCG it produces is not yet accumulated enough to be detectable by 驗孕棒. I suggest you will have to check again on the day instructed by your doctor if miss M doesn't return by then.

As long as your remaining embryo(s) survive the freeze-and-thaw process, I won't give up hope. Just this morning I had an FET patient bingo from her 3rd FET attempt. She originally had 6 embryos frozen, but her last 2 FETs failed; and this time, finally, bingo on her last 2 frozen embryos.

cutecutetown

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mother2be  I have asked this question before. Does transferring 3 embroyos have a much higher chance than 2?  發表於 11-6-10 11:33
mother2be  That's encouraging to know that FET has good success rate.  發表於 11-6-10 11:24
littleantant  明白了,謝謝你,CUTECUTETOWN,我都是發X下,無論點,我都會堅持繼續試既^^  發表於 11-6-9 23:40


別墅

積分: 919


1133#
發表於 11-6-10 19:47 |只看該作者
hi cutecutetoem,

i had ET this morning. two embryos were transferred into my womb smoothly.

last time when i had egg extraction, my doctor told me that two grade 2 embryos (one 2-cell and one 4-cell) will be frozen. however, this morning, the nurse told me that i turn out have 2 grade 2 4-cell embryos, but one of them lost one cell after thawing. my doctor said just losing only one cell is ok. is it the case?

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cutecutetown  it happens very often with losing one cell or even 2; but a good embryo can recover no problem.  發表於 11-6-10 21:43
cutecutetown  that's good news; now the tough waiting begins...  發表於 11-6-10 21:42


別墅

積分: 919


1134#
發表於 11-6-10 22:42 |只看該作者
thanks cutecutetown! you are the best

haha... i was rather relax last time (my first IVF cycle). i was suppose to check bingo on day 32 (i used to have 28-day cycle), but i insist not to check and keep waiting (the longer i can wait, the higher chance the positive result ma~)... however, i had very slight brownish spots on day 33, and then very "ugly" brownish things came out on day 34... and my M came finally on day 35... i was not sure whether it was a very early stage miscarriage or simply a failed cycle... but anyway, there's no need to go into details again. all i need to do now is to save all positive energy and look forward to having a gd news

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cutecutetown  Add oil!  The endometrium is usually better in an FET cycle than in a fresh cycle.  發表於 11-6-11 12:30


大宅

積分: 3254


1135#
發表於 11-6-12 20:54 |只看該作者
本帖最後由 bbbabybb 於 11-6-12 22:03 編輯

cutecutetown,

我準備星期三做fet, 但醫生話正常會係3條線, 佢話我個內膜有幾個白色光影唔靚機會會低d, 但都有些位置係有3條線. 本來上個月已準備fet, 但塞左estrofem後生左幾粒野&成個內膜都係光影, 所以取消左. 醫生話可能塞藥吸收得好d藥量重左, 所以今個cycle轉做食同一份量estrofem, 今次都有光影但比上次少好多. 我有幾個問題想問下:

1. 我想知我個內膜有幾個白色光影唔靚機會係唔係真係會低d? 會低幾多? 我仲有半年30歲, 正常成功機會大約幾多?

今個cycle


上個cycle


2. 片上內膜是U形, 上面那片還是下面那片是最接近肚皮?

3. 胚胎放入子宮後是否會浮游? 還是我向那個方向睡胚胎就會跟著去那個方向?

4. 有白色光影的地方是否不能著床?

5. 我每年檢查時醫生都話我子宮好靚, 而ivf醫生之前都無講過有這個問題. 是否用藥重左才會有光影? 如是, 我應否今個cycle唔做fet? 等下個cycle調較藥量等內膜無問題先再做fet.

5. 有否其他人內膜像我一樣有光影都能成功懷孕?

唔好意思! 我有太多問題, 因為我實在有太多疑惑.














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糟糟豬  我之前做過次iui都係話內膜好靚, 所以都唔知係ivf先搞成咁, 定有其他問題...  發表於 11-6-13 12:58
糟糟豬  所以我都係跟e生指示停左個cycle, 宜家等多個cycle,睇下會唔會正常返...  發表於 11-6-13 12:57
糟糟豬  白色線裏面應該係黑色... 但我的也是有些白影.. 而且我內膜又太厚...  發表於 11-6-13 12:56
糟糟豬  我上次都係類似咁,所以做唔到ET! 我個e生又係話正常應該靚的應該三層...  發表於 11-6-13 12:55
5w 胎囊 0.97cm
6w 胎囊 1.87cm 胎長 0.48cm (閃閃)
8w2d 胎長 1.9cm
10w2d 胎長 3.7cm


男爵府

積分: 9498


1136#
發表於 11-6-12 22:02 |只看該作者
回覆 bbbabybb 的帖子

Dear bbbabybb,

1. I can't really comment on the 2 ultrasound pictures of your uterus because:
a. it's too difficult to judge from 2 still pictures; b. I am not a medical doctor.
My opinion is that, as long as your doctor gives his/her ok to your FET to proceed, your uterine lining should be good enough to give you a fair chance. Remember that the uterus and the embryo(s) bear equal importance in a successful bingo.

Generally, we say the younger you are, the greater the success bingo chance. However, we can't really gauge the "degree" or how much bigger is the chance because all ivf couples come with different reasons. One size can't fit all. I don't think your age will matter a big deal because you are still (relatively) young. Don't be over-worried with yourself turning 30 yrs old in half a year.

2. Even though I shouldn't comment on your ultrasound pics, what U shape are you talking about? In both of the pics, the uterus only took up a small part of the entire view. Are you sure about what you are looking at? Do you notice that the top pic has a bigger magnification than the bottom pic?

3,4. Honestly, if your doc allows you to proceed with an FET, the uterine lining should be fine. (I assume he/she also measured the thickness of the lining.) So, you can relax and stop worrying. Sometimes it's really hard to explain all the details because the decision is not just an ultrasound scan alone. These details rely on a lot of medical knowledge (e.g. the uterine lining, hormonal profile, together with your previous ivf history) and also experience.

5. I am still not too sure about what 光影 you/your doc are referring to. But yes, I have patients who don't have the "perfect" ultrasound uterus and bingo alright.

I'm probably not very helpful in this reply, but at least you should have the peace of mind.
cutecutetown


大宅

積分: 3254


1137#
發表於 11-6-12 22:20 |只看該作者
cutecutetown 發表於 11-6-12 22:02
回覆 bbbabybb 的帖子

Dear bbbabybb,

cutecutetown,

多謝你答我既問題!

如你所講, 我現在只好相信我醫生既決定. 不過, 我知你有病人子宮唔好都一樣成功懷孕已經令我有多d信心.


5w 胎囊 0.97cm
6w 胎囊 1.87cm 胎長 0.48cm (閃閃)
8w2d 胎長 1.9cm
10w2d 胎長 3.7cm


大宅

積分: 2731


1138#
發表於 11-6-14 10:55 |只看該作者
回覆 cutecutetown 的帖子

Dear Cutecutetown,

It's me again ("fan yan"). I had my transfer yesterday. Thanks God - both embroyos survived the thawing process and continued to develop to day-4 status. I can rule out that they are not of good quality. I am on vaginal insert twice a day and will have 2 HCG injections. One today and one on Sat. This time, I am more relaxed as my energy is exhausted in previous cycles.

I have a few questions:-
1. When the doctor did the transfer, the doc put the two embroyos together and transferred it. If they do implant, is there a chance that two embroyos stick together and become connected babies? I didn't recall to ask this question until i was back home.

2. when I lay down on bed, is it better to lay down flat rather than on my right or left side?

3. Finally, I asked the doctor to put them more inside in my uterus. The doc put them near the top end of uterus where my lining was thicker. Ah, then I read some research later on saying that it's better to put the embroyos in the middle or lower part of the uterus. Does the location matter much?

Other than the above, I am relax.


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1139#
發表於 11-6-14 13:58 |只看該作者
cutecutetown:

上星期做咗IUI. 半年前驗過精子形態18%, >30%為合格. 但當做IUI醫生話我老公精子只得 <1%. 3個月前無發生過任何事. 係咪有問題? 需唔需要驗多次精子? 還是睇泌尿科醫生? 如果唔睇泌尿科醫生會唔會有問題? 因為老公話唔想浪費D錢唔好去. 還是咩都唔做等下次做IVF? 以我咁既Case. 會否只係可以做ISCI? Thank you!


男爵府

積分: 9498


1140#
發表於 11-6-14 15:48 |只看該作者
回覆 mother2be 的帖子

Dear mother2be,

I don't know about others, but I don't think you are "fan yan" at all. If asking questions will put you into "fan yan" category, then I am afraid I am also a "fan yan".

Anyway, that's good news knowing your embryos survived and continued to grow. Now, after the lesson from last time, don't go about "cheating" by checking bingo early. Your 2 HCG injections will definitely give you false positive again. Keep the surprise, be it good or bad, till the official day.

To answer your questions,
1. Interesting thoughts, but it is impossible in reality. Conjoined babies are results of one embryo/fetus not developing properly, not from 2 embryos sticking to each other.

2. Sleeping or laying down position won't affect embryo implantation (if that's what worrying you). Simply sleep or lay down according to your preference; it follows that a comfortable mom will provide a comfortable nurturing ground for her fetus.

3. Don't worry about the location; your doctor would have put them in the appropriate spot. The uterus looks "big" on the ultrasound, but in reality, it's just about the size of an orange.

You can relax now?! Take care,
cutecutetown

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mother2be  Thanks for your patience. I don't feel too comfortable at home and can't help doing some housework.  發表於 11-6-14 16:29

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