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bobotak


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發表於 11-1-6 16:28 |只看該作者
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我2010年1月中開始睇仁安既毛匡珽醫生，因為老公丁丁活動力同形態都唔合格，而我又有一邊輸卵管塞左，所以毛毛都係建意我做IVF既，但因為財政問題我地只可以做IUI，做左2次半不成功，故事太長不打算再講一次啦，之後決定轉醫生，等到10月就有得見Dr Tay，做左一次IVF，抽左9個卵泡，有6粒有卵子，都係成熟既卵子，可以做ICSI，但只有3粒成為胚胎，一次過放哂3粒，有1粒著過床，但幾日就唔得啦，之後同經期一齊流返出黎。
Dr Tay唔buy食supplement架，佢話如果你覺得做D野至安心既，咪食Ｄ維他命Ｃ囉。
其實最緊要血液循環得好，有血流到去卵巢同子宮，如果你勤力做運動都有一定幫助架，針炙都係其中一種幫助血液流到卵巢同子宮既方法。
我係8月見過偉澤既周醫生，佢叫我唔好食中藥，我就停左，係10月Dr Tay既IVF之前食左2樽Fertilaid, 4個月DHEA，一開始療程就停哂supplement啦，只食葉酸一樣，針炙就係開始左療程至去針既，IVF打針期間一直針炙到放胎後一個星期，不過岑醫師話係要係療程前3個月開始針至係效果最好既。
原帖由 MusicTV 於 11-1-6 15:07 發表
我追唔到之前啲post. 介唔介意我問下妳係唔係有食fertilaid 同dhea同中藥同針炙但睇了dr tay就停喇？

請問妳係唔係一直都係睇Dr Tay, 妳先生丁丁好唔好，妳抽到幾多卵有三粒胚胎呀？我上次一粒胚胎都冇，Dr Tay又 冇介紹sup ...
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發表於 11-1-6 17:06 |只看該作者
Bobotak, 咁妳先生點改善丁丁呀？

Why change dr from dr Mao toner tay?

Did dr tay say anything why 著床又流返出黎？

係咪最好每日都運動，最少半個鐘？

[ 本帖最後由 MusicTV 於 11-1-6 17:09 編輯 ]
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bobotak


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發表於 11-1-6 17:08 |只看該作者
Vanki
你唔係心理作用呀，我抽完卵果2夜都一天比一天腳凍，針炙完之後都有暖左架。你抽完蛋記住好好保暖呀。
同我老公一齊針都係唸住為下次IVF做好準備，需然仲未唸掂係咪真係做多次IVF，但都要有所準備先嘛，況且而家都只係一個星期針一次，錢銀上都有限數，都仲可以接受既。

驗血報告你問姑娘攞就得架啦，我都係問姑娘攞架。

如果你子宮內膜唔夠厚你最好一天食一塊咭片咁大既花膠，係岑醫師教架。
原帖由 Vanki 於 11-1-6 15:12 發表
bobotak,

唔知係咪我心理作用, 我昨天第一次針完, 之後不其然覺得自己隻腳板無禁凍, 平時係office坐著工作, 隻腳板都會冰凍, 但係現在個感覺暖番d, 希望針灸幫到我. 你c6好好呀, 肯跟你一齊要針灸, 你地禁有恆心, ...
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bobotak


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發表於 11-1-6 17:31 |只看該作者
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之前我同老公都食好多supplement,
(我同老公都食過好多野，雞精，全脂鮮奶，花膠，蠔，牛肉，蝦，蛋，海参，花旗参燉瘦肉，DHEA，Fertilaid，葉酸，維他命C，蜂皇漿丸，蠔丸，A to Zine，鹿茸丸，中藥。)
Fertilaid，海参，維他命C，蜂皇漿丸，蠔丸，A to Zine，鹿茸丸，花旗参燉瘦肉，花膠，蠔，牛肉，蝦，蛋，佢都有食。
做IUI果幾個月期間，Ｄ丁丁report無好過，仍然係咁差，不知原因，果排佢剛轉工，好大壓力，唔知有無影响左。

點解轉醫既故事故真係好長篇，你得閒果時就慢慢睇返我好耐之前既post啦。

失敗左之後我無睇過醫生，因為無需要覆診，著床痴唔實咪流返出黎囉，好似有Ｄ人成左孕都會流產一樣之嘛，要成功生到個B出黎係要過千關斬萬將至得架，唔係唸得咁容易，懷孕期間係會有好多意外架。

運動就睇下你自己既能力囉，有人可以做好耐，有人只可以做零分鐘，只要做到流哂汗咁就夠啦，不需要過份劇烈的，主打都只係要血液循環。放左胎之後醫生叫只可以行下散下步架咋，但又有jm排卵後狂踩健身單車有左BB既，咁即係人人不同，最緊要你自己諒力而為啦。
原帖由 MusicTV 於 11-1-6 17:06 發表
Bobotak, 咁妳先生點改善丁丁呀？

Why change dr from dr Mao toner tay?

Did dr tay say anything why 著床又流返出黎？

係咪最好每日都運動，最少半個鐘？

[ 本帖最後由 bobotak 於 11-1-6 18:36 編輯 ]

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Vanki


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發表於 11-1-6 18:21 |只看該作者
MusicTV,
我手術前因為勁m痛, 所以迫自己日日做最少30分鐘要流血的運動, (例如: 落樓下公園跑步, 在家原地號步, 在家踏健身單車 等等), 總之要全身流汗, 就會加速血液循環, 你都可以試下飲 “黑糖薑茶”, 個個jm都話好.

我淨針灸無食中藥, 因為怕跟打針藥撞, 影響效果.
你比多d支持我啦, 我今次ivf 好迷茫呀!

祝這裡個個jm 都成功 bingo!

原帖由 MusicTV 於 11-1-6 15:59 發表
Vanki, 多謝妳回覆！我覺得妳今次好大機會，妳先生丁丁又好。咁請問妳係咪淨針灸？想問妳做乜野運動同做幾耐呢？
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發表於 11-1-6 18:35 |只看該作者
Bobotak,

我這幾天日日飲花膠湯, 仲係帶埋番公司 lunch都飲果隻, 再晏d就飲多盒奶, 頭先又食 dark chocolate, 今晚又煲新口味的花膠湯 (雪耳排骨花膠), 我落好多花膠嫁, 不過係薄身d個隻, 厚個d要黎燉/紋會好d, 唉 … 禁食法唔肥都難!

哎呀 … 我隻腳依家又凍番呀, 真係要做番運動幫補下.

我明天會問姑娘攞番個blood test report, 到時你幫我睇比d意見.
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bobotak


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發表於 11-1-6 18:40 |只看該作者
Vanki
你記住要食埋Ｄ花膠至有效架。
其實我都唔識睇果Ｄ數字架，只知佢隔離有個standard既數目，within個standard就叫做正常囉。
FSH高過10就=卵巢退化，係知咁多咋
原帖由 Vanki 於 11-1-6 18:35 發表
Bobotak,

我這幾天日日飲花膠湯, 仲係帶埋番公司 lunch都飲果隻, 再晏d就飲多盒奶, 頭先又食 dark chocolate, 今晚又煲新口味的花膠湯 (雪耳排骨花膠), 我落好多花膠嫁, 不過係薄身d個隻, 厚個d要黎燉/紋會好d, 唉 ...
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Fish777


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發表於 11-1-6 19:03 |只看該作者
Vanki, 你抄個results上來，我幫你看看，最緊耍係fsh,另LH就睇係咪多囊
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babehope


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發表於 11-1-6 20:20 |只看該作者
bobotak,
我今日去睇毛毛呀,會做多次iui,佢同我講如果今次都唔得就要照下輸卵管,我問佢要唔要照左先,佢話唔駛住.....
我今次要食排卵藥加打針,我同自己講,唔得係正常,得就當係上天賜嘅禮物.....
希望所有想要BB嘅JMs在2011年都能夠成功BINGO!

[ 本帖最後由 babehope 於 11-1-6 21:30 編輯 ]
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bobotak


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發表於 11-1-6 22:39 |只看該作者
babehope
咁你一共做左幾多次IUI呀？
係因為你之前有自然懷孕所以佢無叫你照輸卵管？
祝你新一年有新的大大大禮物，BB一個
原帖由 babehope 於 11-1-6 20:20 發表
bobotak,
我今日去睇毛毛呀,會做多次iui,佢同我講如果今次都唔得就要照下輸卵管,我問佢要唔要照左先,佢話唔駛住.....
我今次要食排卵藥加打針,我同自己講,唔得係正常,得就當係上天賜嘅禮物.....
希望所有想要BB嘅JMs ...
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LittleMss


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發表於 11-1-7 04:05 |只看該作者
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發表於 11-1-7 10:17 |只看該作者
Bobotak, 謝謝妳回覆！我先生都係食好多supplement但係都唔係咁好，沉晚睇番有JM介紹蟲草海參羊肉湯，今日買了海參羊肉，試試睇下得唔得。沉日踏了半個鐘單車，瞓覺雙腳勁累，不過為了強壯啲，今日再黎過，我想每日都踏半個鐘。不過今過月自然試，排卵後唔知踏唔踏得單車呢？
原帖由 bobotak 於 11-1-6 17:31 發表
MusicTV
之前我同老公都食好多supplement,
(我同老公都食過好多野，雞精，全脂鮮奶，花膠，蠔，牛肉，蝦，蛋，海参，花旗参燉瘦肉，DHEA，Fertilaid，葉酸，維他命C，蜂皇漿丸，蠔丸，A to Zine，鹿茸丸，中藥。)
Fertilaid，海参，維他命C，蜂皇漿丸，蠔丸，A to Z ...
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發表於 11-1-7 10:24 |只看該作者
我沉日都迫自己踏30分鐘單車，但冇乜出汗，係咪唔夠呢，不過我雙腿勁累了！

我會支持妳架，妳加油呀，有乜就入黎傾或pm啦!
原帖由 Vanki 於 11-1-6 18:21 發表
MusicTV,
我手術前因為勁m痛, 所以迫自己日日做最少30分鐘要流血的運動, (例如: 落樓下公園跑步, 在家原地號步, 在家踏健身單車 等等), 總之要全身流汗, 就會加速血液循環, 你都可以試下飲 “黑糖薑茶”, 個個jm都話 ...
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發表於 11-1-7 11:24 |只看該作者
妳好呀LittleMss, 祝妳一take過成功！妳睇邊過醫生？之前有冇食定啲乜野或點做準備呢？
原帖由 LittleMss 於 11-1-7 04:05 發表
你好各JM, 我一路都有睇你哋D POST, 不過呢次係我第一次POST, 因為之前登記開通唔到,好開心今日突然又開通到可以post; 我2月開始第一次IVF喇, 可以同大家傾下, 我相信係好好o既幫助同支持;
我好早之前都知自己咩問題 ...
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bobotak


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發表於 11-1-7 11:33 |只看該作者
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如果你平時都係唔多出汗既，咁你就最好用心跳去計啦，係gem room會有一個chat，寫左年齡體重高度，會計左你做幾耐運動，心跳加速到幾多，要維持幾耐就足夠，我記得好似係去到每分鐘心跳120，維持幾多分鐘就唔記左，因為我未試過跟足佢咁耐我已經要休息一陣再黎過至頂得順
如果你係屋企踩你就踩到個心卜卜卜跳得好犀利，當然係你可以接受既卜卜卜啦，咁踩多10-15分鐘就一定夠架啦，如果太辛苦就要停架啦，唔好搏老命咁做運動呀，怕你會有心臟病自己唔知頂唔順，做運動一定要量力而為。
排卵後其實都可以做運動既，因為子宮都要有足夠既血液循環才可以幫助著床，不過唔好咁搏命啦，慢慢踩下單車運動下都好呀，如果唔舒服就要停啦。
原帖由 MusicTV 於 11-1-7 10:17 發表
Bobotak, 謝謝妳回覆！我先生都係食好多supplement但係都唔係咁好，沉晚睇番有JM介紹蟲草海參羊肉湯，今日買了海參羊肉，試試睇下得唔得。沉日踏了半個鐘單車，瞓覺雙腳勁累，不過為了強壯啲，今日再黎過，我想每日都踏半個鐘。不過 ...

[ 本帖最後由 bobotak 於 11-1-7 11:40 編輯 ]
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bobotak


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發表於 11-1-7 11:36 |只看該作者
LittleMss
你好呀，歡迎你

介意講下你有什麼問題一結婚就決定一定要做IVF呢？

你2月做IVF，而家就要好好準備同好好保住健康既身體，多多保暖，休息多Ｄ，做下運動，準備做媽咪啦
原帖由 LittleMss 於 11-1-7 04:05 發表
你好各JM, 我一路都有睇你哋D POST, 不過呢次係我第一次POST, 因為之前登記開通唔到,好開心今日突然又開通到可以post; 我2月開始第一次IVF喇, 可以同大家傾下, 我相信係好好o既幫助同支持;
我好早之前都知自己咩問題 ...
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發表於 11-1-7 12:16 |只看該作者
Folks, it's obviously a bumpy road. If you have tried your very best, there's no regret. Below is a very touching and enouraging story to be shared with you all. Forwarded from www.hkinfertility.com

Hi all:

This is the first time I come to this website and see many stories of the infertility. Some stories are really very touchable! Here, I want to share my story too.

I married in 1994. During the first 2 honeymoon years, I had the Oral Contraceptives in order to prevent the pregnancy. During the 2 years honeymoon period, we only thought where we want to travel and what things could make us happy but never had the plan to have a BB, we never thought we had the problem at all. In the beginning of 1997, we decided to start the BB plan. At that time, I was 34 years old. My m period was normal at about 30 days periodically. After the 1st natural cycle attempt, my m had still not yet come until day 45. Before the m coming, I believed that I was pregnant without performing any pregnant test because I never tried such a long m period before. I felt very happy to get pregnancy, I was proud of myself because I just tried one natural cycle. After that, I started to search the best doctor for baby delivery. I thought I was the most happy mother at that time! But how come! 惡夢 came to me in the afternoon time at day 45, m suddenly came! Oh, my god, What happened! It brought me from the heaven to the hell! I was very disappointed and cried for several days!

After I calmed down myself, I decided to try several months more by the natural cycle even I felt very upset. But I was disappointed monthly by monthly, I tried about 6 months natural cycle but all were unsuccessful! I felt very frustrated and I decided to go to 侵會 to see the 1st infertility. The doctor told me the successful rate for the IUI was about 50% according to his experience. Therefore I had great confidence to get the baby in 侵會. My expectation re-appeared again because I thought the IUI treatment could really help me to get a baby, even I needed to pay about $7,000 per treatment. For the 1st IUI, I expected I would be successful but finally was failed. I was very disappointed! I tried the 2nd IUI again even I felt the chance of getting the BB was very low, but of course failed again. I was in the 谷底 at that time. Why me! Why I spent the money, the time, the physical and psychological pain but still could not get my baby! It's really very upset at that time! I was psychologically very hard and tired and so decided to stop the IUI treatment because I thought it was useless!

In year 1998, I started to search other specialist for infertility, both government and private. In government side, requested me to perform 腹腔鏡, by opening some holes on my stomach, to check any problem inside. What a pity for my stomach! Even I did not want but finally my stomach was open. Fortunately, no problem was found for the腹腔鏡 operation. After the operation, we had 3 chances of IUI and 3 chances of IVF but we need to wait 1.5 year for the 1st IVF treatment. In private specialist, the waiting time was short but the treatment was very expensive (about $60000 / cycle)! I decided to be treated in both Government and Private sides!

From the beginning of year 1998 to Sep of 2003, in these 6 years, I received the continuous treatment from both the government and private specialist. In order to make the body more healthy (basically I cannot say to make the body more healthy but only to let the body to be easily fertilized), I ate the Chinese Herbal Medicine for about 1.5 years continuously (from 2002-2003). In these 1.5 years, almost everyday my husband and me needed to eat the Chinese medicine. The most pity thing is every time after we visited the Chinese doctor, we needed to get 1week medicine to bring home for cooking. Cooking Chinese medicine is really very hard, we needed to look at the fire from time to time in order to prevent the 滾瀉and 黐底of the medicine. Especially during the summer time, the sweat amount was almost the same as the Chinese medicine. We used to visit the Chinese doctor on Friday, because we have Saturday and Sunday for cooking the Chinese medicine. We needed to cook the whole Saturday and Sunday (Everyday 10-12 hrs) for the 1 week medicine for my husband and me. You can imagine what the pity life I passed during this 1.5 year! But, after 1.5 year, I gave up because I was exhausted! I spent $20k for the Chinese Medicine.

Except the 2 times IUI in 侵會, I tried another 3 times IUI and 7 times IVF totally in these 6 years in both government and private sectors. Physically, psychologically, financially I was exhausted during this period. Especially during the IVF treatment in QM, every morning I needed to wake up at 5:00am and took 1.5 hour transportation and arrived QM at 7:00am in order to queue earlier but still late when arrived the office. I remember one IVF cycle was done during the winter time, I needed to wake up at 5:00am, the cold weather and the atmosphere made me very very lonely and I thought everything was hopeless! I cried for many times when I woke up! For the private specialist, I used about HK$250,000 for 4 cycles of IVF! Why the treatment cost is so expensive, it's really unreasonable! Whatever IUI or IVF, everytime the quality and the quantity of eggs extracted was not good. I remember one time only one embryo could be transferred back to my body during IVF treatment, one time is ZERO embryo after the 15 days injection because all of the eggs could not be fertilized! I really don't know how to express my 極度沮喪feeling at that time! 就是在這樣極度沮喪的心情下度過了這漫長而極不開心的五年半！

The last time IVF was performed in QM after the SARS period in 2003 Aug...But finally failed also! Since I had already received 3 times IVF treatment in QM, according to the QM regulation, no more IVF can be done further. At that time, I was almost 40 years old, I felt everything FINISH! No more money, too old, tried 5 IUI and 7 IVF totally but all failed! I could not do anything more, I am human and cannot against the idea of God! I calmed down myself and 開始接受現實， I believe everything is the God's idea! I had decided to STOP all the treatment!

Since Sep 2003, I almost thought I would not have the baby in my life! But I still have the natural intercourse with my husband every month, even I know the chance of getting a baby is closed to ZERO! Month by month, m by m, I did not feel very disappointed, may be 已經開始接受現實 and my view of life had been greatly changed!

In January of 2005, my husband bought me a new house which actually is my dream house I had already asked him to buy for several years. May be my husband wanted me to forget ALL the unhappy experiences in the past 7 years! He is really very considerable! At that time, infertility might not be the concern of me because my target was shifted to my dream house. Although my first expectation (Baby) could not be achieved, my second expectation (dream house) was achieved我的笑顏再度展現，是內心的而不是表面的！

我曾經想過我寧願放棄六合彩頭獎獎金也要擁有自己的BB，因為金錢實在難以彌補我心靈上的創傷! 世事真的很奇妙，奇蹟就在我搬了屋後第一個月發生，我有了，我真的有了，是自然有了！我真的不敢相信這是一個事實！我真的不敢相信原本已經放棄了差不多兩個年頭的夢想現在竟然驟眼間來到我的面前，太突然令我有點接受不了! 當我知道有了的一刻，我呆了一呆之後我實在忍受不住了，我的眼淚匈猛如洪水猛獸般不能控制地傾瀉下來，七年來一直鬱在心底的死結終於解開了!這一刻實在太美妙了!計算日子應是我在舊屋的最後一個月製造的，真的很奇妙！真是奇蹟！實在是天賦予我的一份很寶貴的禮物！簡直就像做夢一般，直到現在仍不敢相信！感謝主！

I am now almost 42 years old, already tried 5 IUI & 7 IVF, but finally get pregnancy by natural intercourse at 42 years old. Now I have almost 5 months pregnancy. You may consider this is miracle! But I can tell you "HAPPINESS originated from the HEART" may be one of the key factor to get pregnancy!

I hope all people who want the baby finally can get a HEALTHY BABY!

Sammy
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LittleMss
唔駛咁客氣啦，我真係唔好意思呢～
因為我都只係o係度鼓勵下，安慰下各位jm，我都無乜知識教到大家，只係將我睇到聽到同經歷過既，覺得大家可能用得著既資枓同大家分享嗟。
正所謂我無得發達都希望人地發達，我無得生都希望jm們有BB嘛。
係美國成功機會咁高真係好，如果香港都會有咁既技術就可以幫多好多人啦，你一定成功架，我地等你報喜呀～～
原帖由 LittleMss 於 11-1-7 11:51 發表


多謝你呀, 我好開心開通咗, 之前好擔心,開始咗都唔可以係度同你哋傾偈, 好彩而攪掂咗, 你真係好好人呀, 你真係幫到好多人, 令我好感動!

[ 本帖最後由 bobotak 於 11-1-7 15:38 編輯 ]
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