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大宅

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發表於 06-8-31 17:48 |只看該作者

Re: 彥媽與你 BB 讀書/學習交流站

彥彥媽咪,
thank you
因我都唔知邊間好, 現在開始搜集資料 (唔駛啦, bo 係度咪得 law) ~~
蘇淅係聽人講話佢地普通話了得, 又兩文三語....
浸會大學附屬幼稚園係個同事既小朋友讀緊.
oh... 咁就又要再睇多 d 知多 d 先得啦!


大宅

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102#
發表於 06-8-31 17:53 |只看該作者

Re: 彥媽與你 BB 讀書/學習交流站

彥彥媽咪,

咦..估唔到你係舊鄰居喎! 果然係<家姐>呀! $6燒味轉左手lu, 轉左2手添, 愈做愈差, 個事頭住我同一座, 聽<食蕉>講, 佢地<發>到搬走左lu. 你話 $6 都賺到搬大屋, 原價$30時佢地真係賺到笑笑笑, $30~$6我都買唔少架.

好多朋友同我講啟思真係好<活動>, 教學理念係好 但要預左上佢小學&去外國升學至掂.
我表弟讀完靈糧堂升小一, 我眼見佢上學期真係好辛苦, 真係叫救命, 有選擇我都唔係太想呢間, 係後備囉! 我仔仔仲未識行, 未有經驗, 你咁講, 唔怪之得見到樓下有校車啦! 我仲諗媽咪或者唔放心工人過馬路添. 原來明明15分鐘路程, 佢地可以行上半粒鐘.
我都唔介意坐車, 去九龍塘, 九龍城都可以接受, 咁宣道幼稚園&迦南, 兩者點睇?
另外, 仲想問遠小小, 咁樓下間嘉諾撤小學, 掂唔掂? 咩band 呢 ?

thank you very much!


大宅

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103#
發表於 06-8-31 22:10 |只看該作者

Re: 彥媽與你 BB 讀書/學習交流站

彥媽,
認真多謝你的分析,尤其"一女一仔 strategy", 照計真係唔應該sacrifice 阿女入到好女校的權利.
至於新派小學, 始終都心大心細, 主要係自己"身同感受", 做"填鴨"至出黎做野, 唔想D仔女柑慘... 但有個point想你再explain 下, 乜IB program 唔係世界通行咩? 到時如果financially support 晤到去外國的話, 都可以"留港讀書" 甚至返祖國都承認IB學歷?


子爵府

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104#
發表於 06-8-31 22:32 |只看該作者

Re: 彥媽與你 BB 讀書/學習交流站

Dodolumama:

乜IB program 唔係世界通行咩?
==> 咁講喇...呵呵...基本上就係....要 stay in HK 都冇話唔得既...但 HK .. 嗱...改左 334 之後會唔會好d我唔敢講 (不過我都係唔睇好), 因為始終係 HK 大部分中學生都係用 non-IB 方式訓練出嚟既 (即係識考高分, 但又唔知讀左d 乜個停 ), 咁佢地呢班人數一定比由 IB 考入個d 為多...好嘞...你試想像吓你係大學既 lecturer...當你發現一班人之中 10 個有7 個問你, "rofessor ...呢條題目點答呀?..." (non IB train 出嚟既學生) instead of IB mode : "rofessor, 我認為你頭先講個個 concept 可以咁咁咁...what do you think..." (i.e. wait for spoon feed vs. proactively seek for opinion and share)... aiya...個教授點去 balance 呢...咁....梗係要"尊重"大多數喇...依家教 HK D 大學都好似教中小學咁要"湊仔"架....

So...我會認為...俾得個細路讀 IB mode...佢留係 HK 真係有d "嘥" 囉...(就算番大 6都好過 ..好多內地大學係好有實力架)...continue to nurture their learning motive 好d嘛~~



大宅

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105#
發表於 06-8-31 23:50 |只看該作者

Re: 彥媽與你 BB 讀書/學習交流站

彥媽,
"wait for spoon feed vs. proactively seek for opinion and share"呢個exactly 就係我點解咁有興趣果D新派小學 or IB課程 ..
見到D中小學生(or家長)盲目地去果D補習社補呢補路為分數, 真係心up, 而什麼什麼"補習天王"大版廣告,真係眼yuen... (唉, 唔好意思, son多佐幾句) 不過傳統名校/學校, 如果係諗住響HK讀上去, 點都有佢既advantage.. 一係就父母破斧沉舟, 努力搵$, 早D俾佢地去外國讀highschool, 早D脫苦海..

多謝你獨特見解!


子爵府

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106#
發表於 06-9-1 00:31 |只看該作者

Re: 彥媽與你 BB 讀書/學習交流站

Dodolumama:

Yup...that's why I said 俾得佢讀 IB, 但又唔出去外國升學而留響 HK 既話就不如去番傳統學校好過喇...反正 HK D U 都係....

補習社補呢補路為分數 ==> 冇法....呢個係雞同蛋既問題, 唔係因為人人都睇成績去判定一個人, 甚至佢既前途, d 家長又點駛死慳死抵都要俾 $$$ 阿仔去補習呢...冇人去追求呢d, 又點會衍生咁多補習社, 養起天王住豪宅, 養番狗呢... :-| :-|

見你咁講...我又有感而發:
我記得我以前曾經講個以下呢番說話~~~

我一向較 prefer 外國生活...唔係因為我祟洋, 又唔只係因為人地地方空氣好...而係佢地有足夠既條件 (佢地唔似 HK , govt 既 social security 較豐厚, 足使d人唔駛搏命去表現自己去爭學校, 爭工作) 去 accept people's difference, i.e. even 一個只係掃垃圾既清潔工人, 普遍d人都會尊重, respect them as an INDIVIDUAL 而唔係因為"嘩..佢掃街架...幾 cheap...!" But I am sorry to say that it does not happen in HK.

好多做父母既成日教d仔女唔好睇低別人, 但老老實實, 到問心個句, 佢地會想第日掃垃圾個個係人地個仔, 而唔係自己個個囉....right? so what does this reflect?

咁係 reflect quite a lot of HK people 睇人係會夾雜好多 other factors ge...e.g. status, $$$, or even English standard!? 英文好唔好同尊重一個人並冇必然關係...但好多時呢樹就係咁...so 以心比心, 人人都唔想比人睇低 (even though 自己話"我可以唔理人", well, somehow this is not that easy to do la...) 咁就要做d "人地睇得起"既野, or even 讀d "人地話有用既野", so in HK, 人人都話英中好, 中中係次等中學, 於是補習補習補習補習都要補到個仔入英中, 人地個個話讀某某學校先好, 因為第日出嚟可以考名校...well...仲要係人人都識個d 先算名校, 考 N 個 A 個d 先好....為既係第日要揾份好工...於是又一窩蜂去考, 但又唔知自己考緊乜...同讀哂書攞哂 A 但又唔知學過乜一鬼樣~~~ :-x

有時我心諗...好工既定義係乜...?? 老實講, 比我講..我真係一d都唔介意第日d仔同我講..."媽咪, 我想去做垃圾佬" ==> the key is 佢可以自己獨立生活到又滿足 then that's fine la....大佬呀...要掃街掃得企理唔係容易架...你估真係求其那個掃把係咁"了"就叫得呀...? In my eyes, 學會 appreciate others 遠比高成績嚟得重要.....但可惜的是...眾人已 label 了某d行業係低等...某d (e.g. 坐房嘆冷氣) 就叫高等...咁梗係人人都想高等架喇....邊個想被人看扁..??

因此我一直都想去d簡簡單單既地方, 個樹人人都會尊重一d 好唔同既 occupation even though they are not making a lot of $$$$, e.g. 博物館管理員丫...係 HK 呢d 叫做"揾唔到錢既行業, 好似 drawing 咁...唉~~) then everybody 都可以生活得冇咁大壓力, 我同阿仔都唔駛為測驗考試而劍拔弩張~~~

但係....sorry to say as long as I still 生活在 HK, 我無法唔去"介意"阿仔做垃圾佬, 因為就算我真係幾唔介意, 好多人 (including even relatives, friends) 都會"鄧我介意"...成日講....哎呀...乜你阿仔咁"唔好彩"呀...要做垃圾佬"...Well...奇怪....做垃圾佬有何不何?..又唔係偷又唔係搶....都係靠自己創天下....我唔覺有問題喎..但俾人講得多...我識睇得開 =/= 阿仔都識....我唔想佢辛苦 (even though I always wish to train him 唔好太介意人地...) 嘩...即使佢唔介意, 佢又可以確保佢第日個老婆同佢外父母都唔介意...唔嫌個"衰佬要佢一齊捱"? 哈哈 (苦笑).....我真係唔敢講...so 都係"保守" d 好...which means...又係要考好學校喇.... I have to "equip" him with such ability 去"唔被人介意"丫嘛...唉~~~~

但換著響外國...我係指d small city, 唔係好似 New York 個停 busy+big city (New York 同 HK 一樣喇, 一樣係咁爭名逐利)...你做乜起碼d人唔會覺得你 cheap, they just take that as a job..so nothing special...咁已足夠....

Then 我先唔會因為想阿仔"力爭上游"而迫佢, 什至自己去做d我同佢都唔多想做既野...(老實講...你估我想佢有 N 個課外活動咩), 但響 HK , 我都明, 你唔向前行, 人地個個行, so what does that mean ==> 你會被形容為"不思進取"囉...似隻"異形" in other's eyes...so now everybody 都要 move, 但可笑的是..其實問番d人, 原來冇個鍾意不斷行架....激死....

But that is a 大圍既 "concept" , so it is not easy (or quite impossible) to change that within a short period of time...so 人在江湖就要 fulfill the "rule of the game" la....我唔會怨 why the "rule" is like that, 我就努力同自己講...then what can I do to overcome all this la...so 唔俾阿仔響 HK study too long (真係太頂唔順個 education system) is the first step.....

But somehow this is a goal only, 冇 guarantee 實得架...but anyhow....有 hope 先有 motivation ga ma...hehehe......人要 positive D ma...

so 努力揾錢買六合彩先.... :evil: :evil: :evil:


~~ 又呻完...舒服哂~~~ 多謝收看~~


子爵府

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107#
發表於 06-9-1 01:17 |只看該作者

Re: 彥媽與你 BB 讀書/學習交流站

klwy:

咁宣道幼稚園&迦南, 兩者點睇?
==> I prefer 宣道多d, 迦南商業味太重 (其實好多九龍塘既幼稚園都係...d人特登開都開去九龍塘等家長覺得好d丫嘛...)


咁樓下間嘉諾撤小學, 掂唔掂? 咩band 呢 ?
==> 你小學校網係 45, 成個網中嘉諾撤小學算係數一數二,因為網內冇 super hot school ar ma, so 都爭崩頭架, 算係 Band 1 la.. (你知 Band 1 都有頭同尾架吓可).... other than that 就係學校村個幾間喇...不過入面個間聖伯德烈就係三間中最 low rank ge....當中 PLK 錦泰會好少少, 之後係個間唔記得係 xxx (好似係慈雲山) 天主教小學....




大宅

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108#
發表於 06-9-1 09:30 |只看該作者

Re: 彥媽與你 BB 讀書/學習交流站

hi 彥媽, its me again.

just want to let you know i'm a big fan of your topic. i copy & paste your "notes" to a word file and read later. (so much info, don't have the time to read online) but your topic becomes the 1st think that i check at every morning.... i didn't even check my work email yet

anyway, do you know any thing about 嗇色園's school. i live in ap lei chau. there is one 嗇色園 kg nearby which is much less expensive than the others. i wonder if it is a good school. thanks.


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109#
發表於 06-9-1 09:40 |只看該作者

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彥彥媽咪,

昨日聽完一個教育講座, 攪到好迷惘. 因佢既教育理念係先打好中文基礎才學英文, 強調唔好俾小朋友聽英文住, 起碼幾歲才學英文都冇問題. 我依家日日俾阿仔聽phonix, 我會唔會做錯呢? 聽完個講座之後好驚害左阿仔:-( , 咁你對小朋友學英文有mud睇法呢, 要早d定遲d學好呢? 但平時得阿bun對住阿仔(同佢講英文). 你又點教你3個仔英文呢, 希望你俾d意見

迷惘的媽媽上


大宅

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110#
發表於 06-9-1 10:26 |只看該作者

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luilok,

我都曾經睇過報導話小朋友兩歲前係要先學母語(咁即係廣東話啦)之後才學其他語言, 因為同時間教多種語言, 小朋友係會產生混淆, 我都同意, 尤其英文grammar 同中文表達係調轉, 久而久之, 1句句子會調亂次序, 咁在中文老師或英文老師眼中, 佢地寫作係<差>嘞.


大宅

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發表於 06-9-1 10:42 |只看該作者

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彥彥媽咪,

如果嘉諾撤有band 1 尾 band 2 頭, 我已經好滿意, under 呢個搞珠&計分遊戲, 我個仔係<平凡人>, 我又唔會因為想跳出<45網>而去做工夫, 咁睇下6年後間學校ranking 會唔會一落千丈囉! 另外, 都會幼稚園埋手, 讀d有私小, 至少有<一手>在手, 到時至諗讀唔讀囉!
見有個媽咪問起bun bun 英文問題, 我都想問下, 屋企多個講唔正英文的人同小朋友講英文究竟有冇幫助? 我成日都聽到朋友話請工人首選係bun bun , 多多少少同小朋友講下都<好過冇>, 結論到底真係<好過冇>? 定係<等於冇>呢? 我個人覺得想學好英文梗係搵native english 老師教最好, 咁係咪真係係屋企時間長, 對住工人時間又長, 搵個識講下英文的人練習下係有幫助呢? 呢個factor 都會係我下次換工人要consider. 請分享下你眼睇到bun bun 對小朋友的effects, thank you very much!!


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子爵府

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113#
發表於 06-9-1 11:40 |只看該作者

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Good morning all~~~


Today very busy ar...大中彥都開學, so 要湊完仔先可以回應大家...

依家又快要去湊仔放學喇...later sin respond...




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115#
發表於 06-9-3 03:48 |只看該作者

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彥彥媽咪,
我係新丁!因為我最近開始留意bb的教學問題, 重比我D同事笑我,話我太緊張tim,見到你個標提好吸引might入離"貢"吓law..嘩!原來有咁多同度中人! hellow

為了避免...講我就訓..醒我就問.. 的情形出現,我就想由頭lun到尾啦,點知有d唔明?

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第 5 講 : 3rd Round 叩門遊戲
=================

其實呢個 round 機制好簡單, 一般嚟講, 即使係名小學, 校長點都手上仲有 1-2 個位俾佢走盞既 (慢吓手會唔止, 因為校長有幾多個位可以自行收生係好睇 2nd round 最後真係有幾多人會 confirm 去讀個間學校) , 因為有d家長派完位後可都想俾小朋友讀私校呀, International school ar 咁, so 絕對會有位剩, 不過就一定唔多...

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你之前話..私/dss會早d收生,家長決定入讀,便要放棄抽籤,是
嗎 ? then,以上情況就不應出現啦? please tell if i am wrong. i afraid i get the wrong meaning because i am very sleepy now! but actully, before i read your pessage, i really want to apply the DSS first, and take the draw after. tell me that if i am wrong?

tks


子爵府

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116#
發表於 06-9-3 17:07 |只看該作者

Re: 彥媽與你 BB 讀書/學習交流站

可晴媽咪:

你之前話..私/dss會早d收生,家長決定入讀,便要放棄抽籤,是
嗎 ? then,以上情況就不應出現啦?
==>係....but this only applies to DSS only (我上面係講 private/international school ma, not DSS) 有D私小係俾你去抽的...而且...好多家長考 DSS 係考 only...到真係要佢地放棄抽個時佢地又未必制架...再加上....搶手既津小來來去去得個幾間...即使已有一堆人唔抽籤, 都仍然可以爭崩頭....


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117#
發表於 06-9-3 21:50 |只看該作者

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彥彥媽咪

我真係好想我小朋友入保艮局小學,請問是否讀保艮局kindergarden是否眷數D.
但我唔鐘意保艮局kindergarden課程很簡單.
Can u give me some comments. thanks


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118#
發表於 06-9-3 22:24 |只看該作者

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彥彥媽咪,

宣道, York, 聖三一...etc which one you like more?

So sorry to waste your time to answer my questions, but I really have no ideas about my BB future... I don't wanna her to study under "high pressure" but I also don't wanna her to be a stupid one neither ... any private/DSS school is just simple, not too expensive & good for my BB? Please advise. Million thanks!

PS. She has 20 to go to my elementary school, but it is too far away from my home. I move to TKO now.
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maylinlam:

好想我小朋友入保艮局小學,請問是否讀保艮局kindergarden是否眷數D
==> 唔係...只要間小學係官津小的話, 咁你讀唔讀保良局d 幼稚園都係一樣, 只不過有d人認為 if study at PLK D KG, 咁第日慢一真係要叩門都多個理由搏大DD機會咁喇...

不過只要你唔係揀 PLK 最 heat 個d 小 學 (e.g. PLK 何壽南之類個d...), then 1st round 同 2nd round 都有得搏丫...


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060228:

三間中以宣道程度較高得嚟又唔係太 pressurized...York 商業味成份極高 (某程度上都唔駛點考, 你肯去讀都收硬), 聖三一係貪佢有一條龍 only..但通常有一條龍 background 成份個d都係因為預左你會直上, 所以 syllabus 唔會刻意太深, 因為唔駛擔心第日小朋友唔夠人爭嘛~~

sorry to waste your time to answer my questions
==> 千萬唔好咁講...我都唔係識好多...只係聽聽埋埋+自己有d 就 experience 過咁咋....真係幫到你我都好開心架..大家一齊研究吓喇~

any private/DSS school is just simple
==> 老老實實...唔係 discourage 你...不過因為好多家長都會為仔女考呢d學校, so competition 係相當大 (不過最後 confirm 讀個d又唔一定係多架喎...) 個個都係一個仔, 但就考 6, 7 間...所以我都 suggest 你唔嫌麻煩的話...都一齊報喇...收先再諗喇...

你係住 TKO, 坦白講...真係 top 既學校就真係冇乜喇...睇你 OK 唔 OK D 地方名校喇....你地 TKO 有新開既 DSS, 不過如我之前講..我對新校一向都採取 "睇真d先算"既態度, 所以我若要考, 都傾向考d 辦學較長既私小/DSS ... 收再諗去唔去...otherwise 我就索性搞珠算數 (反正大家都係 risk ar ma)

She has 20 to go to my elementary school, but it is too far away from my home
==> 我就呢件事我睇法有d唔同....我會先睇自己母校係咪一間好學校先...係的話, 又有 20 分, 入既機會咁大, 點解唔去? 住既問題點都易搞過讀書既 impact, 若間學校我真係鍾意, 我會寧願就個小朋友而搬近去 (一係就諗掂點由 TKO 出去快d之類), 我唔會為件死物 (居住地點) 而要件生物 (BB) 去就佢, 甚至 sacrifice 佢既利益... (除非包我有另一間好過母校既學校收就另計), cos if 我咁重視小朋友既學業, 咁其他野我就會用盡一切辦法去遷就....

But of course, this is my thinking only, 我明白每個家庭都有唔同既 priority, 但在我嚟講, 若我真係 put 小朋友係 first priority, 咁我所有決定同行為都會以佢地為考慮點了..... :mrgreen: :mrgreen:


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