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1. 你個B 3週大, 係會成日食食下訓覺, 你宜家要開始要訓練佢, 如果唔係到大8週大既時候, 呢個會係好大問題, 直接影響到佢戒唔戒到夜奶, 但學你所講, 你做晒所有野令佢清醒, 佢都係要訓, 咁我唸你可以再觀察多佢一至兩星期, 因為BB到4週大既時候, 會有D轉變, 到時未必餐餐會訓, 同埋佢宜家每餐後都唔係訓好耐, 其實係好架, 不過將來你要訓係下餐奶之前訓1+小時, 而唔係食完即訓1+小時, 你個B宜家咁細, 仲有條件俾佢懶下, 一過左4週仲係咁的話, 你要幫佢架喇(訓練佢, 即係半迫佢....)
2. 非常好! 你宜家開始訓練佢自己訓, 佢喊下停下幾分鐘又喊過, 絕對冇問題! 一開始就係咁架喇, 你會發現佢喊既時間會越來越短而停既時間會越來越長, 總之中間佢有停下, 你理得佢喊半個鐘定一個鐘, 都唔會有問題, 佢唔會唔開心.
3. 都係果句, 你阿B宜家先3WKS, 佢既睡眠模式仲係建立階段, 總之你俾佢固定食奶時間, 慢慢佢就會早D會訓, BB正常係好早眼訓架, 不過你個B太細, 你要幫佢手建立正確時間, 做法就係要固定餵食, 佢新陳代謝就會續漸正常化, 頭一個月係辛苦D架喇, 不過你已經做得好好, 大家繼續努力啦
4. 要! 佢仲細, 你一日要餵足佢咁多餐令佢增磅, 唔洗SKIP佢架, 6WKS後先考慮呢樣野啦, 不過6WKS後通常佢自己會減左一餐架喇, 你留意住啦
5. yes, SEE ABOVE ANSWER.
6. 6WKS之後你就可以咁樣, 通常佢會自己調節半夜果餐, 我阿B果時佢係3點起, 我先就佢3AM餵, 如果你阿B 4AM起, 你就順番佢4AM囉, 6WKS後半夜一餐可以捱四至五個鐘架喇, 7WKS起你可以慢慢同佢戒夜奶, 你咁早計劃, 應該好快會成功, 努力.

原文章由 tongbetty 於 08-8-10 12:29 PM 發表

queeniechan2004,

my bb is 3 weeks old, she is already on 3-hr feeding schedule:

7 a.m, 10 a.m., 1 p.m., 4 a.m., 7 a.m., 10 a.m., 1 a.m., 4 a.m.

she drinks 100-110 ml breast milk (6-7 times) or formula (1-2 times) each time

however, she always cries and cannot sleep good, her problems include:

1. she always sleeps when I feed her despite how to wake her up (change diaper, clean her face, talk to her, on the music...), after drinking, she sleeps at once and I cannot wake her up, but she can only sleeps 1 hour+, then she starts to cry till the next feeding, say, this morning, she drinks milke at 7 a.m, finish at 7:30 a.m., sleep till 9: 10 a.m., then, I take bath for her.

2. today at 10 a.m. feeding, I use the book's suggestion, put a wet towel on her feet to keep her awake, she still closes her eyes when she drinks, but luckily, after drinking, she opens her eyes and is awake, I play with her till 11:15 a.m. and put her inside the cot to sleep, but she keep crying, sometimes stops for a few minutes and cry again, she is still crying now (more than 1 hr.).

3. after 7 p.m. feeding, she usually sleeps at once (as the other feeding time), she may sleep till 10 a.m. when I feed her but after feeding she becomes awake and cannot sleep, she keeps crying till 1 a.m. feeding.

4. after 1 a.m. feeding, she can sleep till 4 a.m., should I still feed her at that time?

5. is it too early to skip 4 a.m. feeding?

6. I see your previous schedule, 7 a.m., 10 a.m., 1 p.m., 4 p.m., 7 p.m., 10 p.m., 3 a.m., when can I start to use for my bb?

pls suggest for the above problems

thanks

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哈哈, 你俾佢喊左3個鐘, 大人都呆啦, 唔好話BB, 我唸佢係喊傻左, 你鍚番佢幾日啦, 好快冇野架喇, 佢係喊到攰得滯, 搞亂左自己D生理時鐘.......
你話佢去完街果晚就又醒又喊, 會唔會佢太累? 你由得佢喊3小時之前你要先體諒下佢咩事先, BB太累係會訓得唔好架, 你帶人出街搞到佢咁攰, 訓唔到, 跟住你又唔理人, 佢緊係唔開心啦, 我覺得如果果晚你冇俾佢哭3小時, 而係安慰佢訓覺, 抱下佢, 反而佢第日就會正常番, 因為佢果晚已經夠攰, 之後你搞到佢仲攰上加攰, 你呢幾日真係要鍚晒佢抱番佢多D, 我都登佢心痛

原文章由 小吉梨 於 08-8-10 12:29 PM 發表
見到大家都好努力呀! 真好~~~

我bb原來開始時都無乜食夜奶, 自動11:00-12:30吃完便會6:30-7:30-先起身食. 而且很自動自覺, 3小時一次. 不過, 最近反而開始半夜扭,因為太嘈所以都屈服了...

早幾日佢好唔安定, 晚上 ...

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.thx ar ~
依家最難攪既係白天既清醒時間同小睡時間,真係有啲難度,因為佢實在瞓得吾 "lam" ~
不過尋晚佢就破壞左我schedule.. 2200 食完後,諗住俾佢瞓,點知係甘扭,放低又扭,抱又扭, endup 我忍吾住 0000 俾多 60ml 佢食(平時 120-130ml) 最後攪到 01xx 先瞓,可能佢攰得制,今朝 0715 先起身, and then 1100....不過我都諗住set 番 3hrs 一餐,但可能 last meal 要改到 2300 !
呢兩,三日 schedule :
1) 0405...0800....1100....1400...1705...1945...2250
2) 0400... 0830...1000...1300...1600...1900..2200
today... 0005... 0720...1105

其實佢食 formula, 我想慢慢拉長佢既 time, 3hrs...3.5hrs..4hrs, 可否同時進行 ? million thx

[ 本文章最後由 Truffle 於 08-8-11 01:40 編輯 ]

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佢唔醒係小事, 但你話佢有時訓個幾鐘醒左就要食係度喊就係大件事, 你宜家開始一定唔好俾佢一喊就食, 佢只會依賴左進食黎安慰自己, 而唔係依賴你, 況且個幾鐘時間, 應該未肚餓, 佢只係想啜, 但如果佢喊你就餵, 只會有個惡性循環就係佢餐餐都食唔飽, 食下就算, 你宜家開始要佢食到飽為止, 跟住未夠2.5-3小時都唔好餵佢, 如果你餵飽左佢, 你會知佢唔係肚餓, 只係扭計, 一喊就食對佢只有害而無益, 仲會令佢長期滿足唔到, 成日喊, 你快D SET番個時間表俾佢, 對你同對BB都好. 你問有咩辦法可以叫醒阿B, 其實我都冇=.=因為如果阿B要訓, 真係好難整醒佢, 十足十暈左咁, 慢慢黎啦, 盡你自己能力, 值得架

原文章由 sywong 於 08-8-10 10:00 PM 發表
我想問,亞b成日都食飽就訓,點叫都唔醒,試過好多方法都唔醒, 有時就可以一訓兩個幾鐘,有時就訓個零鐘醒就要食系度哭.....想做到"食飽-清醒-小睡"都好難,請問有咩辦法可以叫醒bb....... :exci ...

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thx ar ~
依家最難攪既係白天既清醒時間同小睡時間,真係有啲難度,因為佢實在瞓得吾 "lam" ~
不過尋晚佢就破壞左我schedule.. 2200 食完後,諗住俾佢瞓,點知係甘扭,放低又扭,抱又扭, endup 我忍吾住 0000 俾多 60ml 佢食(平時 120-130ml) 最後攪到 01xx 先瞓,可能佢攰得制,今朝 0715 先起身, and then 1100....不過我都諗住set 番 3hrs 一餐,但可能 last meal 要改到 2300 !
呢兩,三日 schedule :
1) 0405...0800....1100....1400...1705...1945...2250
2) 0400... 0830...1000...1300...1600...1900..2200
today... 0005... 0720...1105...1400..1710..1945...2245(預計)

其實佢食 formula, 我想慢慢拉長佢既 time, 3hrs...3.5hrs..4hrs, 定係先戒夜奶,set 好 time table 再先延長時間,可否同時進行 ? 每 0.5hrs 拉長,定 15mins 好呢 ? 需要加大份量等佢飽肚啲嘛 ?
不好意思,甘多問題 ~ million thx

[ 本文章最後由 Truffle 於 08-8-11 08:40 編輯 ]

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Hi QueenieChan,

我個b而家9星期大, 而家先開始教佢戒夜奶會唔會太遲? 因為我每朝7:30要抱bb比奶奶湊, 咁我第一餐幾點餵好? 自己餵完比奶奶定係比奶奶餵第一餐? 謝謝回覆

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小吉梨,
你唔好唔開心啦! 你小b只是6-7wks, 仲好細, 寵極都唔壞得去邊, 而家訓練仲好早。我記得我阿b6-7wks時, 佢仲係處於, 我一日餵8-9次, 係咁餵...更枉論訓練戒夜奶同自己訓。好彩bb過左猛長期, 作息時間開始固定, 咁啱見到queeniechan2004個戒夜奶post, 先至決心戒夜奶, 我阿b而家11wks啦, 咁我咪仲遲!

我好同意bb係需要規律, bb表現有d反覆, 只係有d野同平日唔同咗, 佢就會有唔同的反應。

唉! 好似昨晚, 因為奶奶不在家, 無人陪bb傾計, 佢都扭左一陣。

queeniechan2004,
我幫bb戒夜奶都成個星期, 點知佢昨晚又5:00前喊, 平時通常6:00後才喊, 勉強都捱到8:00幾至食, 但琴晚平時通常6:00後才喊, 勉強都捱到8:00幾至食, 但琴晚咁早, 我就即刻餵佢啦!我勉強都捱到8:00幾至食, 但琴晚咁早, 我就即刻餵佢啦!我都唔知咁會唔會俾錯誤訊息佢, 好驚佢又再晚我就即刻餵佢啦!我都唔知咁會唔會俾錯誤訊息佢, 好驚佢又再晚晚要夜奶...

仲有, 我覺得戒夜奶最大的困難係全家人有共識。首先係老公, 我老公都好似你老公咁, 忽然無la la 由得bb喊, 都唔知d男人個腦咩構造, 返工返得辛苦, 返到屋企就會忽然EQ勁跌watt. 訓練bb係要有全套方法同心理準備架, 忽然訓練對阿b係百害而無一利, 佢都唔知點解你平日又dum我, 而家又唔理我, 佢都無所識從,會越喊越勁。所以我成日同佢講對bb的行為要一致。所以, 你不如慢慢同老公講下你諗住點訓練bb, 同埋要求佢一定要認同, 而且行動要配合。
其次係我奶奶, 朝早bb喊, 本來我地想佢自己訓番, 我地去安慰佢都係拍下手腳, 等去靜再出房, 明明計緊時間,點知佢走入去, 仲抱起bb, 仲暗佢訓著左...

小吉梨,
你唔好放棄呀! 你bb仲細, 慢慢你會摸到佢脾性, 咁你會容易d知道佢幾時需要安慰,幾時可以由得佢喊下。

我覺得幫bb戒夜奶係難度極高, 就係好難同家人有共識和互相配合。大家有咩好方法令老公合作呢?

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如果你要訓練bb自己訓, 係要由得佢喊, 而唔係訓練佢喊, 你老公望住佢喊, bb會好傷心架/.\由得bb喊果時你唔可以出現架, 但可以俾佢聽到你把聲, 如果你地睇住佢喊都唔理佢, 佢會好挫敗, 同埋如果佢喊得勁, 你要埋去安慰下佢的話, 就要抱起佢幾mins, 唔好走埋去拍下佢講兩句又走左去, bb又會覺得被玩弄, 所以你決定要去安慰佢就要抱起佢, 你走埋去佢係預你抱佢架, 可能你地用錯左方法訓練佢同埋係唔岩既時間訓練佢(去完街太攰, 扭計, 你唔應該唔理佢), 所以佢越喊越大聲, 抱起都未必收到聲, 因為佢係情緒哭, 而唔係反抗哭, 反抗哭係一抱就可收聲, 亦都係好健康的哭, 但情緒哭唔可以唔理架, 佢真係會唔開心, 你多d了解下bb需要, 要訓練佢都唔係話單單由得佢喊就得, 你要俾佢覺得你關心佢, 不過你唔洗太心痛太自責, d bb好快開心番架喳, 你鍚番佢幾日啦, 好快冇事, 到時你再訓練佢訓啦, 但記得佢喊果時你用心聆聽bb需要先呀.
isabella講得好岩, 訓練bb係全套計劃, 要行動一致, 你一旦決定左要訓練佢, 就唔好一時一樣, 一時抱, 一時就望住佢喊都唔理佢, bb會好混淆架.

原文章由 小吉梨 於 08-8-11 11:25 AM 發表
果日出街都係回奶奶家食飯, 佢基本上都係瞓緊...

其實我都好心痛, 但我老公唔知點解突然好狠心咁, 關我在房佢就同阿b獨對, 看住佢哭....我都瞓唔著...

昨晚仲激, 本來我都想暗bb睡, 但佢又係入黑好精神, 食完11:00 ...

[ 本文章最後由 queeniechan2004 於 08-8-11 13:18 編輯 ]

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queeniechan2004,

thanks for your reply and advice

some more progress to share

yesterday, after 10 a.m. feeding, she cries till 11:15 a.m. and then I put her sleep, she cry till 1 p.m.,
after that, I feed her and keep her awake, she is alert till 2:15 p.m, then I put her sleep, very lucky, she cries 1 minute and sleeps till 4 p.m.,
then I wake her up to feed, but she is really sleepy and does not wake up, after feeding, I need to go shopping and bring her outside (in a stroller), and we come back home at 6 p.m., she is still sleeping, till 7 p.m.,
I feed her and wake her up again at 7 p.m., and she is awake till 8:30 p.m., I put her to sleep, she cries till 9:15 p.m. and then sleep but cries in between sometimes,
at 10 p.m., I feed her and then she sleeps after feeding and wakes up herself at 1:30 a.m. and 4:45 a.m. to drink milk, I then still feed her at 7:15 a.m.

my questions

1. if she still keeps sleeping at 4 p.m., is it just let her sleep?

2. should I feed her at 4:45 a.m. or let her cry till 6:30 (1/2 hr. before 7 a.m.)

3. you set the midnight feeding at 3 a.m. because your son wakes up that time? if yes, when did your son wake up at that time

thanks for your advice

原文章由 queeniechan2004 於 08-8-11 00:40 發表
1. 你個B 3週大, 係會成日食食下訓覺, 你宜家要開始要訓練佢, 如果唔係到大8週大既時候, 呢個會係好大問題, 直接影響到佢戒唔戒到夜奶, 但學你所講, 你做晒所有野令佢清醒, 佢都係要訓, 咁我唸你可以再觀察多佢一至 ...

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你個schedule都唔錯架喇, 不過有時bb未必咁聽話, 間中一晚特別扭計都唔出奇, 況咀你個schedule未完全穩定化, 相信你bb都努力適應緊架喇.
你可開始拉番長d時間, 每餐俾多15ml佢試下啦, 觀察下佢可唔可以3.5hrs先喊食, 試幾日, 慢慢拉長, 慢慢加量, 15mins or 30mins都係視乎你阿b個反應, 但你個schedule有時長有時短, 你試下再穩定d, 3就3, 3.5就3.5, 唔好相差咁多, 否則bb好難適應架, 你會搞到佢都時長時短黎肚餓架, 我阿b好準時3hrs就會要食, 大人都冇佢咁準, 訓練番黎的, 你都要咁做呀.

原文章由 Truffle 於 08-8-11 01:44 AM 發表
thx ar ~
依家最難攪既係白天既清醒時間同小睡時間,真係有啲難度,因為佢實在瞓得吾 "lam" ~
不過尋晚佢就破壞左我schedule.. 2200 食完後,諗住俾佢瞓,點知係甘扭,放低又扭,抱又扭, endup 我忍吾住 0000 俾多 60ml 佢食(平時 120-130ml) 最後攪到 01xx 先瞓,可能佢攰得制,今朝 0715 先起身, and then 1100....不過我都諗住set 番 3hrs 一餐,但可能 last meal 要改到 2300 !
呢兩,三日 schedule :
1) 0405...0800....1100....1400...1705...1945...2250
2) 0400... 0830...1000...1300...1600...1900..2200
today... 0005... 0720...1105...1400..1710..1945...2245(預計)

其實佢食 formula, 我想慢慢拉長佢既 time, 3hrs...3.5hrs..4hrs, 定係先戒夜奶,set 好 time table 再先延長時間,可否同時進行 ? 每 0.5hrs 拉長,定 15mins 好呢 ? 需要加大份量等佢飽肚啲嘛 ?
不好意思,甘多問題 ~ million thx

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唔會太遲, 呢個方法1歲b都有效, 但越大需要時間越長啫.
你每朝7am餵佢啦, 你奶奶未必肯同你朝朝咁準時餵架, 跟住就10 or 10:30am再食, 視乎你個b要3 or 3.5食一次啦(人奶定奶粉)?

原文章由小田於 08-8-11 12:11 PM 發表
Hi QueenieChan,

我個b而家9星期大, 而家先開始教佢戒夜奶會唔會太遲? 因為我每朝7:30要抱bb比奶奶湊, 咁我第一餐幾點餵好? 自己餵完比奶奶定係比奶奶餵第一餐? 謝謝回覆 ...

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男人係咁架啦, 我老公係屋企d eq都係冇晒架, bb喊佢又忍唔到, 成日話我做乜唔理bb喊, 我同佢講左好多次, 喊緊唔好搞佢, 佢係都要走去tum下佢, 搞到bb都唔知要喊定唔喊好, bb一喊佢就會問我==>"喂, 佢係咪肚餓呀???" 我次次聽到呢句我就把幾火, 有時岩岩食完一小時佢係度喊, 佢都可以問我bb係咪肚餓, 好似好質疑咁, 但宜家好左好多喇, 因為我有解釋佢聽佢都肯接受, 好就好在我只同老公住, 冇99呢d咁麻煩既物體係度, 我要點俾bb喊都冇人知

原文章由 isabella_mami 於 08-8-11 12:39 PM 發表
小吉梨,
你唔好唔開心啦! 你小b只是6-7wks, 仲好細, 寵極都唔壞得去邊, 而家訓練仲好早。我記得我阿b6-7wks時, 佢仲係處於, 我一日餵8-9次, 係咁餵...更枉論訓練戒夜奶同自己訓。好彩bb過左猛長期, 作息時間開始固定 ...

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1. yes, u must wake her up to feed at 4pm, otherwise she may wake up and cry between 4 to 7(like 5 or 6), this will destory the schedule very much....when u wake her up to feed, don't feel guilty, because this is good for both of u.

2. If you can, certainly wait till 6:30pm is much better, but sometimes u can't (bb keeps crying hard)

3. yes, i set 3am because he always wake up around 3 to 4, um.......around 7 - 8wks, he skipped a meal(around 5am) by himself, not me.

anymore question you can share with me.

原文章由 tongbetty 於 08-8-11 12:50 PM 發表
my questions

1. if she still keeps sleeping at 4 p.m., is it just let her sleep?

2. should I feed her at 4:45 a.m. or let her cry till 6:30 (1/2 hr. before 7 a.m.)

3. you set the midnight feeding at 3 a.m. because your son wakes up that time? if yes, when did your son wake up at that time

thanks for your advice

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原文章由 queeniechan2004 於 08-8-11 13:11 發表
唔會太遲, 呢個方法1歲b都有效, 但越大需要時間越長啫.
你每朝7am餵佢啦, 你奶奶未必肯同你朝朝咁準時餵架, 跟住就10 or 10:30am再食, 視乎你個b要3 or 3.5食一次啦(人奶定奶粉)?

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Hi QueenieChan,

我個囡而家每4個鐘食一次奶粉, 每次食180-200ml同埋要成30-45分鐘, 如果7點食就趕唔切比奶奶, 因為我要返工! 好唔好由6點自己餵佐先呢
? 咁就可以6:00am,10:00am, 2:00pm, 6:00pm, 10:00pm,2:00am(要戒呢餐) or 比奶奶餵第一餐8:00am, 12:00noon, 4:00pm, 8:00pm, 12:00am,4:00am(要戒呢餐)?

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Yes, it seems he needs to get up by that time (5am), last night the same, I feed him for 10 mins, then he still awake, after changing his nappy, I put him down on cot by himself when his eyes still open, then he looks and sees for awhile and sleep by himself, at night he can always sleep by himself.

Funny that yesterday though I cant wake him up at 8.30am (actually he drank 2 mouthful then sleep) then he only get up again at 11.30am which can keep the schedule (11.30/2.30/5.30/8.30)

So now two problems left:
(1) So the first meal is important to keep up the right time say 8am/ 8.30am
(2) It is so so so hard to keep him awake after feeding, like others I tried many methods but so hard to keeping him in alert mode....so sometime the 'alert mode' and 'nap time' is opposite, this is another major problem in training him...

原文章由 queeniechan2004 於 08-8-11 00:18 發表
ai....你BB真係曵曵, 搞左咁耐佢改善都不大! 首先你唔好怪責自己, 我都明佢半夜如果喊得好勁, 你同你老公都會有壓力, 你拖到佢6AM已經好叻, 因為你個B似乎真係非常非常依賴5AM呢餐, 即使佢未必真係餓, 不如咁啦, 試 ...

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I am living with my 99, and she always want to take care bb for the whole afternoon (of cos leave the feeding and nappy changing work to me), but she always hug ar B and even hug him to sleep, if I was there, I will told her not to hug bb to sleep, and she of cos will pick up bb once bb cries lar...

So it is hard for me to do the training too, as she will think why I am so harsh to let BB crying and crying.... hai... so sometime wanna to give up and I do the training in the monring, but afternoon cannot...so is the same..

have to wait 3+months for my new place ready so that by that time I can train bb by myself...

原文章由 queeniechan2004 於 08-8-11 13:25 發表
男人係咁架啦, 我老公係屋企d eq都係冇晒架, bb喊佢又忍唔到, 成日話我做乜唔理bb喊, 我同佢講左好多次, 喊緊唔好搞佢, 佢係都要走去tum下佢, 搞到bb都唔知要喊定唔喊好, bb一喊佢就會問我==>"喂, 佢係咪肚餓呀???" ...

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