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大宅

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發表於 07-9-16 15:47 |只看該作者
Hi 各位家長:
可否send資料給我.


大宅

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發表於 07-9-17 11:26 |只看該作者
其實以你個女依家既度數做eye chart 會更有效, 試下同你個女做多些eye chart 啦!
原文章由 kendrachan2004 於 07-9-14 16:25 硐表
Dear melodyyy,

Thanks for your response.

My daughter is wearing the old glasses now.

I'm going to do more sting exercise with her
this weekend.


Do you think I should also use the eye chart?

...


洋房

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發表於 07-9-17 13:04 |只看該作者
Dear Melodyyy,

what is Eye Chart?? Where can I buy it?

Do I need to attend the workshop first? What is String? Where can I buy it?

And how to do?

The organization just said that the next workshop will be held in January 2008. It takes so long to ....

Please help.

Thank you.

TKOmother



原文章由 melodyyy 於 07-9-17 11:26 硐表
其實以你個女依家既度數做eye chart 會更有效, 試下同你個女做多些eye chart 啦!


別墅

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144#
發表於 07-9-17 16:06 |只看該作者
回覆所有pm我的朋友 or 對神奇的視力 有興趣的朋友

所有資料可在下面網頁找到

http://www.magiceyes.org/

http://www.vision-training.com/


別墅

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145#
發表於 07-9-17 16:08 |只看該作者
我想問下老花同遠視,分別在那裡?


男爵府

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146#
發表於 07-9-17 16:53 |只看該作者

神奇的視力

May I know what is sting exercise? Thx!


別墅

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發表於 07-9-17 17:21 |只看該作者
原文章由 小B媽咪 於 07-9-17 16:53 硐表
May I know what is sting exercise? Thx!


係用繩來協助做一些眼部運動,成人及小童課程都會教,好好玩呀


複式洋房

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148#
發表於 07-9-17 18:18 |只看該作者
原文章由 無事忙 於 07-9-17 17:21 硐表


係用繩來協助做一些眼部運動,成人及小童課程都會教,好好玩呀


可唔可以具體啲講呀?

有人又話其實唔駛去上workshop都可以學到,上完workshop返嚟自己教屋企人或親戚都得,我唸如果你想係度同我地分享啲方法一定好多人有興趣同多謝你架

我唸咁神奇,其實好多人都有興趣,但又唔想等到出年一月,不如你做下好心講啲方法出嚟俾我地聽啦

我唸呢啲都無話有乜版權問題,其實睇書都有講,但你上完workshop,應該多啲經驗可以教到我地,好過我地自己睇書啦,係咪


別墅

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149#
發表於 07-9-17 21:30 |只看該作者
終於有人出面問了

Leo所言大多數家長、視光師和眼科醫生都覺得小朋友近視都要帶眼鏡。

所以我開呢個topic都係想張呢個方法話比大家知,希望可以幫到更多小朋友。

如我所言唔駛去上堂都可以學到”,就如我所言我所教的都只是親朋好友,bk我仲未搵到!

如果我想係度分享呢個方法,我早就講了or pm了給大家!

同時我亦相信我們可以做的都做了,在這裡留過言的家長,各不相識,大家在此為各位做過見證,相信已報名家長已不會像暑期班的我們,懷着忐忑不安的心情上課,擔心被欺騙!

這方法真係好神奇,到現在我仍未可確定效果,所以我一直跟進緊我教過的人小朋友,不過可以話比大家知一分耕耘一分收獲,唔使錢的佢地都唔係好積極。

係呢到我亦不理版權問題!但Leo幫了我們這個,可說是我的恩人,我絕不能恩將仇報幫佢倒米!

至於不求過程但求答案不是我所同意的!

在此我和大家分享多一點( Seeing Without Glasses)
http://www.amazon.com/Seeing-Without-Glasses-Step-Step/dp/1582700893


複式洋房

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150#
發表於 07-9-18 09:28 |只看該作者
真的給我試出來了

我看見這個TOPIC,起初不忍得不由第一頁開始看,一口氣由頭看到尾,再做了些少RESEARCH, 可能我還不太了解, 但要我花錢的時候,我必然會起疑心,尤其是由互聯網中,像你說的各不相識,不禁心中起了以下一連串問題:

VISION TRAINING 原來台灣一早已有,它的網頁裏有一個課程是『神奇的眼睛』課程覆訓, 為什麼要覆訓呢??-(

這方法已有很多年歷史,如是行得通,怎會沒人知,應該生意很好,很多人爭住去開同一類公司啦?-(

我個妹都係NLP trainer, 點解要用NLP, 我相信都好多人都有懷疑?-(

這個topic 一直存在,點解間唔中又有新topic走出嚟問,又唔回覆之前既topic,想keep 住個topic係頂等多啲人睇到?-( 這種手法係baby-kingdom實在太多太多,尤其是由同一個人開幾個account不斷分享經驗,屢見不鮮,如果係我太多心既,對唔住先

我好相信baby-kingdom仲有好多好多好好既人,係好嘢,一定有人會分享方法出嚟,死都唔講既就一定有問題 ,呢個係我係baby-king咁多年既超級經驗

照咁睇我可以慳返我個2千幾蚊,圖書館都有得借,大家可以連買書錢都慳埋:)

Seeing Without Glasses: A Step-By-Step Approach To Improving Eyesight Naturally

有無需要去上workshop真係見人見智,多謝你"無事忙",又一次領我眼界大開:loveliness: 由開頭問人意見變咗推銷的身份真係少見 在此衷心祝福你真係以後都唔駛戴眼鏡 ,但無論如何,多謝你介紹原嚟係有方法可以改善eye sight, 我都會借本書返嚟睇,努力做exercises既

真係衰,我編編係啲唔駛錢就會更加積極既人添,:mrgreen: :mrgreen: 如果可以換嚟以後唔駛戴眼鏡已是無價囉,仲要俾幾千蚊出去令自己積極,這是否在乎人的 EQ?-(

[ 本文章最後由 monkey 於 07-9-18 09:59 編輯 ]


大宅

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發表於 07-9-18 09:55 |只看該作者
看了上面的發言我都唔知答唔答你好! 但係好肯定既係我唔係幫邊個宣傳! 我真係覺得有效, 而我個女就一般, 或者當真係有一日我個女都可以減到得50度時, 我再同你分享啦!

原文章由 tkomother 於 07-9-17 13:04 硐表
Dear Melodyyy,

what is Eye Chart?? Where can I buy it?

Do I need to attend the workshop first? What is String? Where can I buy it?

And how to do?

The organization just said that the next worksh ...


複式洋房

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發表於 07-9-18 10:05 |只看該作者
Dear Monkey,

俾你快過我講咗出來 !

完全讚同 Monkey 的講法 ! 若然是好方法, 又要在這裹提出來, 又不是拿出有用的資料 和 真心意 與人分享 ! 又如何幫到有需要的人 ?

是否沒有錢就要帶眼鏡 ? 那互聯網 與 親子王國 分享的功用便完全失去了 !

請静心地問問自己, 是否真有助人之心 ?


民房

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發表於 07-9-18 11:05 |只看該作者
我比較傾向支持無事忙的觀點,相信一眾已上課的媽媽已給了很多資料,令我們對神奇的視力了解更多。若大家問完那裡學琴,難道作出介紹後還要教埋彈琴嗎? 我想是某些媽咪很好奇,但又想唔駛錢學,這樣對真正負出金錢及時間的人,是否不公平呢?這樣的批評又是否合理?相信這不是自私與否的問題。BK是一個給大家分享意見的平台,難道要變成知識產權共用的地方?大家真的要好好思考一下!

我要澄清自己立場中立,只是發表對事件的看法。


複式洋房

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發表於 07-9-18 11:12 |只看該作者
你也說得有點兒道理,現在忙,待回兒有空,我會用少少科學角度同你分析下,其實各有各討論,我又唔駛人支持既,不過只係講少少自己意見啫,每人都有自己的選擇,係咪

原文章由 JooMama 於 07-9-18 11:05 硐表
我比較傾向支持無事忙的觀點,相信一眾已上課的媽媽已給了很多資料,令我們對神奇的視力了解更多。若大家問完那裡學琴,難道作出介紹後還要教埋彈琴嗎? 我想是某些媽咪很好奇,但又想唔駛錢學,這樣對真正負出金錢及時間的人,是 ...

[ 本文章最後由 monkey 於 07-9-18 11:17 編輯 ]


大宅

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發表於 07-9-18 11:21 |只看該作者
melodyyy, please check PM.


大宅

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發表於 07-9-18 11:37 |只看該作者

Eye glasses only $500 more..

It is not very expenses for a pair of glasses. The main problem is NOT CONVIENCE. Even swimming, running, playing football, ice-skating...so dangerous if you are wearing eye glasses. So my son told me he never wear eye glasses during sport activities. He said he can wear eye class in class becasue he cannot see clearly.

But the doctor said sometime he can see and sometime he said not clear. He cannot give me a real degree but just said around 225 to 287...sometimes.

Luckily he can see the blackboard and write his handbook. But I think he love to read story books and no need any glasses. Now I try to print our some smallest words for his reading. hope he can reduce his eye-sight degree cox he is still young. My dad have an eye sight when he was studied F7. But he accruate his distances for reading. So he never wear eye glasses. Just sharing his experienced. In my case, I wear 150 degrees eye glasses sinces F5. now I got 475 degree....so poor....I dont like to wear eye glasses . They caused me so trouble during ice-skating, swimming & playing with my son.
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大宅

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發表於 07-9-18 14:56 |只看該作者
原文章由 monkey 於 07-9-18 09:28 硐表
真的給我試出來了

我看見這個TOPIC,起初不忍得不由第一頁開始看,一口氣由頭看到尾,再做了些少RESEARCH, 可能我還不太了解, 但要我花錢的時候,我必然會起疑心,尤其是由互聯網中,像你說的各不相識,不禁心中起了以 ...


看了monkey 的言論,心裏很不是味道。人家都是出自一翻好意,見到有新的方法介紹給大家,你唔信無人會免強你去信,亦不是無事忘最先介紹,之前已經有pang007等bk mom講開。如果你有一路有睇開,都會發現有參加過workshop及發言的bk mom都是常客,並非新開賬號,一人開幾個賬號去推銷。我在8月時首次看到這個介紹,當時在網上問過都沒有幾過bk mom參加過這個workshop,我們都是抱着一試的心情去參加workshop,抱着最多比人騙HK$2500。現在經過一些bk mom上完堂再在這裏交流,給其他mom有更多資料,是一見好事。況且無事忘亦有講可以看書及自己練,可以不參加workshop,為甚麼自己唔想俾錢又不去看書,反而叫別人把練習的方法在這到詳細說出來,人地唔想又話人自私。撤除版權問題,我們是否應該尊重一下別人的意願呢!


男爵府

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發表於 07-9-18 14:56 |只看該作者
其實我都估到遲早有人會話係宣傳, 不過我覺得唔需要爭論, 清者自清o 我上黎係想同上過course既家長傾下, 分享下小朋友既進度, 交換下心得, 其實未有呢個topic前, 我都同pm同兩位好好既媽咪傾過, 我就係怕公開討論會俾人話係宣傳, 果然........

其實大家都係分享經驗, 互相支持下, 因為vision training 既過程有時係另人幾迷茫, 好彩bk都有好心人, 有位俾埋mobile我, 同我傾左好耐, 俾左好多意見我, 好多謝佢:loveliness:

我唔想幫邊位講說話, 不過我覺得係咪你問人地, 人地就一定要教呢? 係咪唔教就等於自私或宣傳呢? 咁知識產權又要專重嗎? 我覺得值得要反思下....
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複式洋房

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發表於 07-9-18 15:24 |只看該作者
找到一些相關的網頁(不過都是英文的),都是不涉及商業活動,因此相信可以比較客觀討論有關問題。為方便大家,將其中一篇的結論剪出來給大家看看。簡單來說,這問題在西方已討論了幾十年,但從嚴格的醫學角度來看,似乎沒有證實vision training的成效。當然,明白各位愛護兒女的心,但也真的要為作出明智及理性的選擇。(註:本人都是大近視

Remember: no type of eye exercise can improve a refractive error or cure any ailment within the eyeball or in any remote part of the body. If you are considering a vision training program, request a written report detailing the problem, the proposed treatment plan, an estimate of the time and costs involved, and the prognosis. If the plan is not targeted toward a specific visual problem (such as amblyopia), or if it includes a broad promise such as improving I.Q., forget about it. If you are not sure what to do, invest in a second opinion, preferably from a university-affiliated practitioner.


男爵府

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發表於 07-9-18 16:31 |只看該作者
TYY

Thanks for your information. I have some echo after reading these articles.


1) Article 1 & 2 (1st author)was written by optometrists , vision training should have conflict to their interest. And, the paragraph you quoted here:

Remember: no type of eye exercise can improve a refractive error or cure any ailment within the eyeball or in any remote part of the body. If you are considering a vision training program, request a written report detailing the problem, the proposed treatment plan, an estimate of the time and costs involved, and the prognosis. If the plan is not targeted toward a specific visual problem (such as amblyopia), or if it includes a broad promise such as improving I.Q., forget about it. If you are not sure what to do, invest in a second opinion, preferably from a university-affiliated practitioner.

It's just a comment of the authors and based on no research background. I think they can only conclude that "there is no evidence supporting the effectiveness of vision training in this moment, NOT just make this comment without any research support.

2) Article 3 was published in 1956 before we came to the world

Personally, I can't believe why we cannot reverse myopia as we are not borned to be short-sighted. Especially when it is not very severe. One statement in the article: The refraction of our eyes changes as we grow older. I think it can be worse, it can be better.

It's all just my personal opinion.

[ 本文章最後由 ChristyBBmama 於 07-9-18 16:40 編輯 ]
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