如我想仔仔入DBS, 有乜要注意呢 ??? 係咪好難的 ??
==> DBS , so you are talking about Diocesan Boys School, right? If yes then.........I can share with you~~~
話難...Well...咁講喇...難係在於多人爭而已....考又唔係考上山涉水既....以我大仔上年考為例....當年 DBS received 18xx applications, 當中全部都會有 1st interview, then 再 shortlist 300 candidiates for 2nd interview, 之後收 150 kids (5 class of P1, 30 students in each class)
咁我大仔當年都好好彩入到 2nd round, 不過之後就唔得喇...
1st interview 係家長唔入得, only 細路入, 唔知問乜, 因為我冇問....不過佢自己就講過話老師叫佢講故事之類...
當年我都係平常心去考...唔似好多家長咁好搏命架....(個 kids' profile 厚過我屋企張床褥 ) 我就只係將大彥個 KG school report photocopied + 1 swimming cert 咁咋喎....都衰衰地有得入 2nd round ar...so not too bad ga la..
我地考唔到我又一d都唔傷心喎....一來我係抱住一試既心態...二來我一向都唔讚成寫一大堆野去"表誠意"搏收....始終HK 好好既學校我唔敢話多, but 好既學校都真係唔少丫...so why 死心眼呢....
因學校新, 我無乜資料呀.
==> 新..?? 呵呵...你都真係識得佢少喇...DBSPD (Diocesan Boy School Primary Division) 話就話係新校, 但入面d人同老師好多都係以前 DPS (Diocesan Preparatory School, 響 Kln Tong) 教過架喇...以前 DPS 係 link with DBSSD (Diocesan Boy School Secondary Division), 後來因為 DBSSD 要轉直資唔俾政府亂派人入去, 所以另成立 DBSPD 去取代 DPS 結龍...
so now DPS d 學生唔會可以直升 DBSSD, 係 DBSPD 先得, 但 somehow DBSSD 都有少量位係比 DPS 既 top students 考既.....
DBSPD 係 DSS, so 要俾學費...last year 係 $38,000 per year (I guess it will increase this year), 話貴唔貴 (St Paul Co-ed 都 $48,000 per year la) 話平亦唔平...唔係個個家長都可以負擔到...
而且, 入得 DBSPD 都要預左會幾駛錢...e.g. 佢地有d school day ga, family day ar...gum 好多時都要俾錢先有得參加...
有人話要考入 DBS 要有家底至得, well...somehow I would say it's true...咁講唔係計身家 only, 都睇埋父母背景, 職業 etc la....學校 somehow 係有心收埋d background similar 既人...同 DGS 一樣....若冇家底, 咁就除非個小朋友有過人之處喇...then 機會會大好多...
到小朋友 F1, 就要玩寄宿一年...to train up their independence ar ma....and there is quite a lot of test/homework gum ga...so 家長都唔係 only 有 $$$ 就 work , 讀得呢d學校, 要有心理準備要做 long term 書僮 for the kids (unless個仔係本身好愛 study , 有 discipline la..)
重有, 語文...英文好係有著數 gum la.. cos even all books 佢地 use (俾我地等緊 interview 時用個d story book), they are all in English..so you can see how important English is in the school's eyes...
以上乃有感而發....原先打左一大段野就係想講埋 this point, but 最衰冇哂...:cry: so 唔打住喇..得閒先再算....係關於個時考呢間學校時響 BK 見既一d現象而己.......因為一到考學校, 尤其呢d學校...嘿嘿...你就會發現有d家長會由友善而變得競爭性架喇..., 唉...我明既....大家都有仔想考入...但 if 只收一個, 你諗會發生咩事...?? d office politics 出哂嚟喇...
我又唔係嬲既....係覺得....tunnel vision lor...不過咁又唔影響我第時又都會帶二仔三仔去考吓架...收先再諗讀唔讀囉...唔收又揾另一間...simple and easy.... :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
do you know any thing about 嗇色園's school. i live in ap lei chau. there is one 嗇色園 kg nearby which is much less expensive than the others.
==>我識唔哂 all KGs, 不過我知響 Ap Lei Chau, Band 1 D 既小學係 St Peter (有三間架), 最耐個間最好, 我唔記得係邊間, 個日我睇過一本書介紹佢收 Band 1 學生比例...呢間唔錯...
但嗇色園 D 小學就冇提....so the point is since 搞珠唔睇幼稚園架嘛...so you should go and see if you could accept the environment ar...syllabus ar of the school...(e.g. 多唔多個d生仔唔教仔個d , 睇到架..你得閒去蒲吓 that KG 附近睇吓d家長點講野都有啟示架) if D 人都係企企理理, 小朋友乾乾淨淨番學 (你咪話架...我真係見過有d幼稚園d小朋友好 lei fei 吓架..又冇人理) then that KG is already not too bad ga la...
從你講呢番說話令我諗起我一個朋友, 佢地又係一個仔, 依家升 K2 la... 快考小一, 都係唔會再生喇, 所以成擔心機都響個仔樹, 次次同我傾都話想個仔入 La Salle, DBS, 又問我係咪入 CCKG 就得...依家如大家估到, 佢就係放個仔入 St Catherine, 本來上年考 CCKG 想 轉, 但又 fail 左, 依家佢就 continue to stay at St Cat, 好大 expectation 希望去到 La Salle/DBS, etc..佢地係講到明好想阿仔第日入名校...
就算轉, 係DBSSD 出來, 我諗都應該絕對唔係問題... 唔知你點睇 ?
==> 呢點我個個 friend 都係咁諗...嗱....我諗你應從多角度去睇....讀得呢d學校, 先唔好計鬥錢 (事實亦唔係個個家長都好有錢既, 咁你又放心) 但入得去, 而又留得低既一定有其過人之處, i.e. maybe 有某d才能好好..etc... so 點會出局..?? 出得局個d 多數真係頂唔順 (e.g. 真係自己讀唔上, or 父母真係 no more resources to help la..) 咁既話...先唔計人地點睇....先諗諗個小朋友喇...當佢入去 DBSPD 冇耐, 就會知呢間係名校, then 同學之間亦好 competitive (even parents) , 咁第日 no matter 佢因為 whatever reasons 要出局 (冇錢又好, 唔夠人叻又好), 我擔心既係佢點睇佢自己而已....人人都可以留低, but I can't, so imagine how he look at himself?? 自我形象會如何...男仔仲係一般較 tends to put things in their heart (內歛)...so 有好多野你要預左佢第日唔會同你講架喇 (including 功課有幾大壓力), so 入得去, 就真係唔好出嚟....你所指既"唔係問題"純係以家長角度去睇 only , but 感覺係係佢樹...then try think think his position????
當然我咁講唔係話你唔應該俾佢考, 只係我想講任何野都有一個 price, so whether parents are willing to take that price 係好重要....入得名校就要預左俾 $$ 之餘, 仲要時間, 另外又要參加好多 different extra curricular activities...well...唔可以話唔好既..有d人真係得 (see 沈靜轁, that piano kid?) 但佢背後父母放左幾多心機同時間我諗冇人會估到有幾大, 又可以幾 consistent 咁去 pay this price.....另仲要配合小朋友既天份喎, 叻人行既路會比普通人辛苦, 因為佢地會知自己係叻人, 所以唔可以做得差比人睇, cos 家人對佢 expectation 會好大, then 久而久之, 能否如此承受得了就另計..........
出嚟做野, 你都知....人際關係係好重要, so it's very important to train the kids more on 全人發展 (this include communication skills, interpersonal sensitivity, ability to look at things from different perspective, etc) 多過讀到英文 lak lak 聲 or 計數快過計數機喇...cos all these 都可以用更多後天去學 or 補救喇..
我成日都同朋友講, 入名校讀千萬唔好只睇佢俾到你既 benefits , 而係亦要自己要付出既 obligations, 好多人把口就想個仔/女入名校, 但又唔想付出相應既心血, there's no free lunch in the world ga...知冇.....
so 唔係想潑你冷水, 因為我想俾定心理準備你...基於 DBSPD competitors 眾多, 亦真係天外有天, 人外有人, 唔係 profile 厚就有用架嘛.....but 你盡管去做你認為可以幫到仔仔既野 as long as you feel comfortable, 但就要同時學懂去接受有機會你花盡心神亦會無功而還個種失落...if you are ready for this , then go, I will support~~
St.Catherine 同 Victoria (Kornhill, 因何文田太遠 , 我地住TKO既)
==> 兩間要我揀, I will choose St Cat, 因為佢一來辦學有多年, 都係以英文教學為主, system 應 run 得好好, 你住 TKO 亦唔駛去咁遠...點都好過長途跋涉過海返學, 二來 Victoria 較貴族化, 學費都幾貴, 若都係以英文作招徠, 咁我唔覺得佢好 St Cat 好多...唯一係佢有直升小學囉...但間小學係 International school, 亦幾貴, so see 你係咁 look for that la..otherwise, St Cat is quite OK ga...
DBSPD 係英文小學, 噤係咪即係只得中文科用中文 其他全部 (包括常識科) ==> yes
又有無mandarin?
==> 有..唔止有 Mandarin, 佢地係要揀多一種 foreign language to study ge...Mandarin is only one of them, the other one is French
可否分享下該比D咩讀物比BB 呢 ?
==> 我冇乜點特別比乜佢睇架...我屋企係就係有好多 story book ar, VCD ar gum, 不過我都係就咁放哂響樹, 等佢地自己 likey 時自己開聲話睇多過我要佢地睇既...平時我返工唔響樹 even 佢地睇 TV 我工人會開 Pearl and/or ETV 比佢地....起碼好過睇超人....then 一有時間就 bring them to library la...等佢鍾意睇乜就睇乜....
oxford reading tree? 其實呢套書有乜噤巴閉呢 ?
==> 你冇睇我分享 about DWE Vs. English Time 個個 topic 咩~~ 我響入面已經講過....任何 books ar, VCD ar 都係 teaching media (媒介) 而已, all of them just used some basic teaching principles (e.g. stimulus + reinforcement) only, 無乜特別, 重要既係 lead 套 material 個個人 (e.g. teacher, parents) , 佢地用幾多時間同心機去引發小朋友既學習動機 (learning motive) 先係最緊要....so 我有理由相信 since St Cat 辦學有咁多年, 佢一定有一套教學生既方法係 work ga ma...
想小朋友易受名校青睞, 要多 train 佢地既 proactiveness, 肯 question 同思考性地答問題...cos this is the most difficult part to train rather than English ar, piano ar gum ga....
多d 同佢 talk, ask 多d佢地 "Why do you think so?", "What if .... then......??? " , "What can we/you do lei?
" 呢類問題喇...對佢地思考可以有大d既刺激作用, 到時去答 interviewer 問題時就唔會口啞啞~~~
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I understand…..... under傳統思想, 生仔係大壓力過生女既, 要成材ma~~~No wonder 99 is always so mean to me…. ha ha......
其實有無一d好既課程or 書本可以指導下呢d 家長呢 ??? --> Whenever my BB girl can talk, I will start to talk with her at least 15min everyday..(from heart to heart) I think two-way communication is always the best way... just my opinion.
唔駛客氣..我呢個交流中心雖則 open 響 0406 呢樹, 但唔代表我只想同呢樹d媽咪講既...放響出面d forum 就無謂喇...你響 BK 日子仲淺, 有好多野都係 low profile D 好d...岩傾既就入嚟多d喇....
成日都已經擔心緊: 點先可以教得距好
==> 見你咁講, 我又忍唔住要搭訕....."好"....呵呵...何謂"好"呢....你既"好"係你 define only, 唔係你個仔...我明父母既苦心...但...你又有冇 step into your son's shoes 去想想呢...e.g. 當你係細個時, 你最想見既係邊個...係咪父母呢...想父母同你玩...而唔係日日返唔同學校見老師學呢樣學個樣...??
你成日 send 佢出去學野係為佢好 (我明, 但小朋友唔會明), 佢只係會好直覺地睇到一個"事實"就係 : "父母唔想我響屋企, 所以塞我去呢樹去個樹, so 佢地都唔係好錫我 je", 久而久之, 佢地就 being trained up 到可以有同冇父母都得, 親同學多過親你, 有開心唔開心都同人講唔同你講....well...你係咪想見到一個名校畢業十項全能但同父母關係極疏離既一個仔先...?? 我想講人唔可以要哂全世界...小朋友成長尤其最初既階段父母既支持同陪伴係好緊要架 (你冇見好多問題兒童, no matter 係有錢個d 定冇錢個d 都係因為父母冇乜時間同佢地一齊而出問題既咩....)
so 好多時唔好用 "想佢第日好d" 作為 excuse 就將佢地搓圓 gum 扁....."好"我都話係你諗 only, they somehow never ask for that...而且...響你心目中要有咩地位先叫好呢.....be a Director? Manager? Own a big car? big house? 點解我地唔可以接受阿仔係一個普通人而只做一份普通既工呢...
需知呢個世界每個人都有唔同角色...and every role has its value and responsibility....有將軍都要有兵, then 將軍先可以叫"將軍"架...冇兵的話, 將乜鬼軍唧~~ so 梗有人係 higher level, 也有人係 middle level...etc...呢樣野我唔覺有問題, 問題係你點睇呢個問題而已...so your value system will definitely affect how your son view this world...so you must be very careful here ar~~
Maybe you (or most parents) thinks 讀得到書第日就唔駛捱得咁辛苦...well...咁不如我又試吓講 D facts 過你聽丫...等你又秤吓...
我有個 girl friend 佢係 St Paul Convent 畢業, 佢老公係 DBS .. 男既依家響 large international bank 做 very senior position...佢地有個女 5 years old...
但男既日日放工 10:xxpm , 一返到屋企第一時間又係開電腦, but for work wor..唔係我地咁八卦喎...個老婆想同佢講吓個女d 野佢唔係唔想聽, 係真係攰到聽唔入耳了, 個老婆同我講因此佢都唔想"煩"佢老公...但我話...個女係兩個人架嘛...can't leave all responsibilities to you ga...但佢話, 佢都知, 但佢亦明白佢老公做得d咁既位, office d 野唔係你話唔理就唔理, 再者, 讀得咁多書, 自會對人對事都有要求, 咁就更 drive him to work harder..then again, no free lunch in the world...higher $$ job means less time with family ga la....
So...the point is....你想唔想第日你個仔忙到連打個電話俾你既時間都冇..or do you really think 呢d就係叫"開心"同"等佢條路易行d"呢...好多名校畢業之人對自己都有一定要求, 因為名校呢個"label" 已賦予佢地無窮具大既壓力 (因為 HK 係一個咁既地方, d人 if 聽到你讀 DBS 但只做一個 clerk 一定會"登"起對眼, 之後用無限"同情"既眼光同說話話你知...唉呀...乜咁唔好彩呀...之類....)
so if 你係後者, then take it easy, friend...順其自然地去考, profile 唔駛多做, 呢幾年佢想學乜就由佢喇..得唔得亦無必要谷....最後, 收固之然喜, 唔收亦可欣然接受另一d option, 再以另一d方法去薰陶佢, 咁既生活態度係咪令你地都可以少d conflicts, 多d體諒呢...?? :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
亦怕自己身教方面未必係最正確 .....其實有無一d好既課程or 書本可以指導下呢d 家長呢 ???
==> before you start with any books...I will first advise you to 先調較自己既睇法...cos as I said above, how you see things will affect your kid...so 你都咁諗, then 你個仔第日會因為"不能滿足你既要求 = 我唔係一個好仔喇..我令媽媽擔心", 而有好大 pressure ga...想佢生活 relax , then the first thing is: you relax first la...知嘛...
書..let me go home and see see sin....再 give you some recommendations...
你講打蛇餅個間可能係" PLK 譚歐陽少芳" (響黃埔) , 因為呢間咁多年都仲係"排表"唔係 download or mailing ga...佢亦出名在係英文成份較重, 同會收d 外籍小朋友, 咁家長就想籍此都 train up 小朋友可以接觸英文 in different ways...
學校interview時易會考慮bb住得遠唔遠
==> well..nobody knows 收生準則, 不過我想講有此考慮亦唔算奇, 就好似我地揾工, 你公司響柴灣, 但有個申請人住天水圍, then 你請唔請呢...唔係話佢"岐視"既, 而係佢地會有理由懷疑你係試吓報 only, 而唔係真心想讀佢囉..so 與其第日 last moment you give up 佢又要 call waiting, 不如一早唔收你喇...
But 我地個d activities 平好多喎...英文 (有外籍老師) 為起係 less than $100 per lesson ar...Putonghua 都係 $7x per lesson 左右....跆拳係 $42 ja (仲平過我依家俾大彥去 YWCA, $60/lesson) .....so 我 choose 完都係 less than $1000 per month..平過我依家...
一來支出實在好大
==> well...咁睇丫....個d activities 唔係一定要去架嘛...so if 係唔一定要 join, then you can join other cheap cheap courses outside la...
為左既細既(charles )將來能唔駛再去諗搵學校問題
==> 咁喇...我又兩睇...先睇定d睇哥哥讀成點喇...成績好既可以試諗插班, 但 APS 一向以程度深而出名, 升中派位一向好好,..so you may need to think think if 哥哥 讀得上, then 又唔駛太擔心細佬既, cos 雖然私校唔一定包收細佬, 不過點都叫做"優先考慮"架嘛....
若真係想考出面d小學...你講個幾間...油天...可以一試, La Salle...要勁超班先得, 阿仔成績係掂既又無妨一試呀, 英華...我對呢間小學好有保留....佢係靠有英華中學結龍先可以人氣大增, 但本身佢既師資係嚟自 Band 3 小學, 結龍之後我地未睇得到由英華小學上去中學既畢業生考 HKCEE 考成點...so 我對佢既質素有懷疑, 要睇多幾年我先會信佢真係得...
So 我反而覺得 if 真係唔想 stay at APS, then 荃官小...should be OK bor...