Hi cutecutetown.報告下我的情況俾你知，今朝day2植入了兩個幾靚的肧胎。我冇問係咩grading.醫生話聽日，即day3先知有幾多雪胎。最多會雪6粒。手術後在醫院bedrest了2小時。食完lunch去廁所。護墊就有兩三滴淺啡紅的分泌。想問咁樣是否可以不理會的呢？個肚子宮位有d扯住。唔係持續的。Thanks a lot!
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Hi cutecutetown.報告下我的情況俾你知，今朝day2植入了兩個幾靚的肧胎。我冇問係咩grading.醫生話聽日，即day3先知有幾多雪胎。最多會雪6粒。手術後在醫院bedrest了2小時。食完lunch去廁所。護墊就有兩三滴淺啡紅的分泌。想問咁樣是否可以不理會的呢？個肚子宮位有d扯住。唔係持續的。Thanks a lot!
Is it true that after the 1st fail in IVF which is beginning of April 2012, I need to rest for a couple of months till FET? My gynae said my case not needed as my body is quite fit and initially I have a cyst in my uterus but after checking last week, it's disappeared.
My gynae suggested that I should just do FET after my ovulation in a few days time. Personally I have let go the urgency of wanting to have a dragon baby as it's too late but I'd like to seek your advice if I'd rest? Besides gynae also suggested to boost up the bingo rate I can do one IUI before FET to increase the chance. But I have failed 3 IUI in the past so I thought if I have to do IUI then better I'd try it myself naturally as well.
Dear kakakaju,
If your doctor said you can proceed with FET, then of course that will be ok! But I will also take your readiness into account; if you don't feel like having the FET this month, do it next month.
For IUI, I agree with you that doing another IUI won't really help much. You may simply take this month easy and feel free to let nature take its course. When you feel you are ready in May/June, plan FET with your doctor when your period comes.
Don't feel stressed, those frozen embryos will wait for you.
cutecutetown
Thanks cutecutetown, in fact I am ready for FET just don't think I'd waste the few thousand dollars for IUI. Whilst waiting for FET this month I will also try natural, cos I don't think IUI really help that much for me. After all the past failures I am more relaxed and will take this at ease, I mean I don't put anymore hope on the eagarness of success. Leave it to fate, leave it to GOD this way things might follow the way they should.
One thing I am amazed but no clue why my cyst has gone out of no where!
Just find this message from other jm here
子宮腔持續積水：輸卵管水腫及不通會造成子宮腔積水，這是因為輸卵管的積水因輸卵管繖部（尾端）阻塞，造成輸卵管內的積水往子宮腔流之故。持續性的子宮腔積水會造成胚胎著床失敗。但多囊性卵巢症患者她們在接受排卵藥物刺激之後，偶爾也會引起子宮腔積水，但不會造成著床不易（失敗）的問題。...
Is it right? But last time I ask my doctor ... My tube still blockage or not( I have ectropics before.. Only use medical therapy) but he said no need to care this anymore...
Sorry to hear the misunderstanding between you and your Taiwan clinic. I suppose they meant 12th May, not your DAY12. And I need to emphasize again that the "days" of a natural cycle and the "days" as happening in an ivf stimulated cycle should not be treated as equivalence. In a natural cycle, your body is in control; in an ivf stimulated cycle (i.e. when you receive hormonal injections to encourage egg/follicle growth), your body follows and responds to the medication she is given.
To answer your questions:
1. Yes, embryo transfer takes place after ovulation; which day depends on the developmental stage of your embryo(s). You may somewhat take the day of ovulation as the day of egg retrieval; eg, if you ovulate today (Apr30), your embryos of day3 development should be transferred 3 days later (May3).
2. Can't predict. Perhaps you may ovulate within a week?!
3. Who said you can transfer 4 embryos?? According to your last post, you have good embryos with 6 being frozen. If that's true, given your age and also the embryos should thaw out ok, I will transfer 2 only. Some clinics/people are more aggressive in putting back 3 embryos, with the understanding of the consequences of carrying twins or triplets. Unless your embryos are poor, why would you want 4 back? And if they were poor, putting 4 will not help.
According to big-scale studies (those involving >1000 women), pregnancy rate did not significantly increase whether you transfer 2 or more embryos; but transferring 3+ embryos give a much higher chance of multiples (twins or more). When transferring 4, there is no better chance as compared to transferring 2 or 3, or even a slight decrease. This is probably because those women tranferring 4 embryos were the poor-prognosis group (e.g. age >40, repeated ivf failure, with complicated etiology, etc. etc.)
For medical conditions, a medical doctor or your ivf doctor should provide the best information. What I tell you here can only be a reference only.
I can break down your message into a few questions:
1. 子宮腔持續積水: Regardless of its cause(s), it can be "visualized" on ultrasound.
As long as you don't have it, don't find something to worry yourself :)
2. Blocked tubes (輸卵管阻塞) and hydrosalpinges 輸卵管水腫 are different. One is blocked, the other one is the collection of fluid without proper drainage. IVF overcomes blocked tubes because we no longer need the tube to act as a transport conduit for the egg to come down to the uterus [we collect your eggs from your ovaries and put back embryos into your uterus, no tube involved]. On the other hand, hydrosalpinges may indeed "leak" fluid into the uterus; as said above in (1), if there will be a large collection of fluid in the uterus, it causes problems. Surgery may be recommended by the doctor. For suspected very minor "leakage", ivf doctors will only recommend surgery if there has been repeated ivf implantation failure.
3. You had an ectopic pregnancy before, with medical therapy. At least the pregnancy itself proved that one of your tubes was not blocked. And I believe your doctor never found any fluid in your uterus on ultrasound (or else he would not have transferred embryos). Also, you did ivf, which bypassed your tubes; that's why your dr said no need to care.
Thanks, cutecutetown. It's me who asked the dr to put 4, and he said it can be discussed. After your reply, I will not put 4. Maybe 3, as I really want to get over it. Be honest, it is very difficult both mentally and physical
Wanna let u know, I finally found the lab for blood test and dr for ultra sound. A bit strange, in Taiwan, they found follicle on both side but the dr performing ultra sound couldn't see the one on the right side.
Thanks again for your help. Now, I will try to have the tests required and fly again for second trail.
hi cutecutetown, so great to have you here! i've been reading your posts since last year and you helping other jm. eventually i did my 1st ivf (1 grade 1 & 1 grade 2+) on feb 14 this year but failed, hcg 39 on day 12 after ET, dropped to 5 after 2 days. i'm 39, just had the FET on april 18 (natural cycle) and transferred my last 3 frozen embryos (3 grade 2+), uterus wall 9mm, blood test for progesterone on april 23 is 110. On april 29, blood test result the HCG is 0 which meant it didn't happen again. Still , my cycle is 31 days, last cycle day 1 was march 31, today is day 34. i checked with the clearblue digital yesterday shown not pregnant. Would it happen that the embryos still alive and implanted so late? i am very appreciate for your help
I am afraid the embryos of your FET had never implanted. Your period should come within the next few days.
If you will consider doing another ivf cycle, don't wait too long.
I had my ER on 30/4 and have my ET on 2/5 with 2 four-cell embryos. I wonder if they are usually regarded as day 2 or day 3 embryos?
My husband has made me a bit annoyed since the ET as he always asked me to have bedrest and lay flat on bed. When will the implantation usually take place? Will it be the 6th to 8th day? That is 5/5 to 7/5 in my case? My husband sometimes warns me that if I keep on being so busy at work( I just need to work in front of the computer), it might lower the chance of implantation. However, I don't feel stressed with my work and even like keeping myself busy at work. Do you think this really matters? Thanks.
Implantation takes place around day5-8, so that's around May 5-8 for you. Bedrest gives you rest time, but you don't need to lay flat. There is no evidence whatsoever that an embryo will implant when the carrier is lying flat and still. An embryo won't implant if it is of no good. As long as you don't over-work to stress yourself, you will be just fine. Keep everything balanced and give yourself an easy life for the next week or two; then time will fly so quickly that you won't even notice it.
Dear cutecutetown,
Thank you very much for your advice. I didn't have too much expectation to the result as I didn't feel any changes within my body. Last time when I got biochemical pregnancy, my breast and my Abdominal area were all feeling "bloated" for over 10 days after the iui and resulted in HCG 128. This time I just feel too good which makes me feel a little uneasy. I know people just have different symptoms but just can't help questioning myself.
Hope I would be able to update you with some good news later. Thanks.
. 我本身想DAY 17走, 佢話無可能. 我不明白, 明明第一次都係Day12 抽EGG, DAY17植入, 但依個月佢O甘肯定不行. FYI, 這次DAY12我左邊卯泡11MM, 右邊9MM, 內瞙9MM, 有驗E2, P4 和LH. 依家我番左黎, 會搵LAB同醫生照旦, 報告給佢地,才知何時再去.
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