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socloudy,

thanks God that yr positon is secured while yr company is laying off people and u're pregnant.
4 yrs ago, my company was merged with another company and cut off 10% of the combined workforce. so they just put my name in the one of 15,000 people being laid off, although i was pregnant and about to start my maternity leave.
my another friend also had a similar case while she was working for a small company.

原文章由 socloudy 於 07-11-21 01:55 發表
Nic977,
冇問題,你想我寄俾你定下次gathering先俾?

Nic977 / Alisonli,
我都会放25% of my bonus toward 401k喥.不過係by choice, not by force.如果升多2級就唔同,佢哋玩法又唔同哂.

Alisonli,
我今年唔望加bon ...

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SY Mom,
其实我都唔算有份好secured嘅工.只不過我响team performance唔係最差嗰個,搏老細唔揀我嚟炒囉.乜你大肚時间公司可以laid off你嘅咩?係咪成team人解散呀?

Rose-mag,
唔想俾人去個ball事少,想慳返年尾花紅事大呀!d員工做咗成年工連個d$都cut真係好離譜.我公司人工好少ga ja,係份bonus 高先打個和…

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socloudy,
我地喱D supporting staff 係冇年尾花紅，只係期望出年加薪同公司俾shares, 不過最多試過3％同11個shares，加埋都冇一千蚊。D Management 就有花紅，為囉花紅有時都幾黑暗，做多做得好都唔等于有回報，總之就心淡啦。

花旗太太生活在花旗國，留意時差，你問我未必即時答到。

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發表於 07-11-22 14:45 |只看該作者

Socludy & rose-mag, 嘩! 啲公司真係會x’mas 前cut 人架? 真係好無陰功喎.

呢兩個星期, 忙到嘔, 前一個星期係周年籌款晚宴, 上個星期係lego robotics tournament 初賽. 以為今個星期可以鬆下. 點知其中一隊輸左既lego team 玩野, 寫投訴信俾我大老細, board of director, 話賽果唔公平, 要俾佢隊team 入圍先至公平, 其實啲細路女無野, 係啲家長搞事, 煩到嘔, 今晚仲要度掂封信, 真係唔駛訓.

今個星期一我老細同我個部門retreat, 我個部門係做membership 同活動, 我本來睇哂oahu 島, 既membership 同活動, 加人事, 好辛苦, 真係兼顧唔到, 從今以後, 我只做supervise活動一瓣, 但就唔止睇oahu, 要睇statewide 活動, 既係其他島既活動都要睇埋, 好消息係, 唔駛再理啲人事, 同事既pto, vacation 都唔駛再經我, 真開心.

HAPPY THANKSGIVING!

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發表於 07-11-23 04:49 |只看該作者

Rose-mag,
有時返工識得玩政治仲好過識做工.都唔明讀書時点解唔教e科.唉…

Muimui,

我公司由9月起就cut人喇!前前後後已有成千人.cut多次就估有2千.好似ｄ唐人佬細响chinese新年前炒人,等d職員過唔到肥年囉.:(
做人事就真係幾複雜嘅,煩到死,咁依家咪幾好.

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發表於 07-11-23 15:06 |只看該作者

socloudy,

my company planned to lay off 15,000 employee after the merger. i was only one of them. our group was still there but some of us were impacted. my manager's boss was gone in the previous round of lay-off before the one i was impacted. i was told that i could also be impacted even if i were on FMLA leave. another female coworker was also laid off when her son was also 1 1/2. we were the only 2 female engineers in the group but we both didn't have kids when we joined the company. i guess they were discriminating the moms who were restricted to travelling at a consulting group.

my manger was playing "politics". as i was in the same office as him and people in the office knew i was pregnant, he "dumped" me to another team which most of them were based in Colorado. my new manager only met me once before and the rest of team's never met me. then the new manager told me i was impacted by the workforce restructuring. so manager 1 "kicked" me and manager 2 "killed" me!

can't believe a Fortune 40 company would do that kind of things!

原文章由 socloudy 於 07-11-22 10:31 發表
SY Mom,
其实我都唔算有份好secured嘅工.只不過我响team performance唔係最差嗰個,搏老細唔揀我嚟炒囉.乜你大肚時间公司可以laid off你嘅咩?係咪成team人解散呀?

Rose-mag,
唔想俾人去個ball事少,想慳返年尾花紅事 ...

[ 本文章最後由 SY_Mom 於 07-11-23 15:17 編輯 ]

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發表於 07-11-24 06:14 |只看該作者

SY Mom,
你之前大肚而公司咁對你係totally unacceptable ga.俾我实告佢歧視大肚婆&歧视女性.因female engineers全部冇得留低… 告公司順便攞番3,2百万实冇走雞啦!我唔鐘意d老細揀nice d 嘅staff嚟開刀…太過唔fair.

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發表於 07-11-24 09:26 |只看該作者

socloudy,

actually i'd seeked for legal advise before having signed for acceptance of the severance package. however, i was told that it's legal to do so in a massive lay-off. i was just 1 of 15,000 of them. besides another female engineer and myself, there was also a female associate project manager being impacted in our group.
the company was named "the best company to work for". can u believe it?

well ... it's been history. thanks for your note.

原文章由 socloudy 於 07-11-24 06:14 發表
SY Mom,
你之前大肚而公司咁對你係totally unacceptable ga.俾我实告佢歧視大肚婆&歧视女性.因female engineers全部冇得留低… 告公司順便攞番3,2百万实冇走雞啦!我唔鐘意d老細揀nice d 嘅staff嚟開刀…太過唔fair. ...

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發表於 07-11-25 00:25 |只看該作者

socloudy, symom,
my boss was not happy about me being pregnant too & hired other ppl on top of me afterwards. he didnt want to lay me off , i could feel that he wants me to leave by myself...save unemployment ma.

原文章由 socloudy 於 07-11-24 06:14 發表
SY Mom,
你之前大肚而公司咁對你係totally unacceptable ga.俾我实告佢歧視大肚婆&歧视女性.因female engineers全部冇得留低… 告公司順便攞番3,2百万实冇走雞啦!我唔鐘意d老細揀nice d 嘅staff嚟開刀…太過唔fair. ...

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發表於 07-11-25 17:16 |只看該作者

Alison,
我生埋依胎都要收工唔再生喇!我個team有個女同事同第２d同事傾開計,俾我聽到佢話我又大肚…要用到”again”依個字真係好難聽.而我last week俾San Francisco office一個一年都冇email聯絡嘅同事問我幾時due.之但係我冇同個边office d 人講過我大肚.
好彩我佬細係好family oriented嘅人, so佢冇俾hard time我.

SY Mom,
你仲打唔打算go back to workforce?定係等仔仔大d至作打算?

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發表於 07-11-26 23:00 |只看該作者

socloudy,
wah. 大肚 news spread so fast. so 8. btw who is gonna take care of your baby and corey while u r going back to work ? my situation is that i used to work under the director, i dont deal with the director anymore, now i am working under a dozen ppl. well of cuz they said they would keep my position but they are also allowed to hire ppl above me..u know what i mean. kinda play with the law..so upset...

原文章由 socloudy 於 07-11-25 17:16 發表
Alison,
我生埋依胎都要收工唔再生喇!我個team有個女同事同第２d同事傾開計,俾我聽到佢話我又大肚…要用到”again”依個字真係好難聽.而我last week俾San Francisco office一個一年都冇email聯絡嘅同事問我幾時due.之 ...

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發表於 07-11-27 08:59 |只看該作者

Alison,
我阿爸幫我湊Corey,遲d會凑埋個細嘅.而夜晚Corey就同我阿媽瞓.weekends跟我同c6.如果冇屋企人幫手睇住個仔,我跟本都唔打算生多個.
我响依间公司7年都跟咗5個老細,對上個老細仲係COO,跟佢嗰2年真係好過癮.人工可以加十幾至兩十幾個%一年.不過公司上年restructure咗,我要跟咗第２個老細,佢冇power幫我fight到嗰個數喇 :-|

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發表於 07-11-27 11:02 |只看該作者

socloudy,

actually a lot of my friends said i should go back to workforce. maybe becoz they see an "unhappy housewife". i realized that i don't enjoy being a full-time housewife or a stay-at-home mom, or maybe i'm not qualified for that. that's also not the "old" me at all! however, i'm not as lucky as you to have yr own family to help take care of yr kids. if i had my own mom in here to help me out, i would already had another kid. however, my dad doesn't really like the life in US, so i want them to be happy and didn't apply the greencard for them.

let's see how things go when my son goes to kindergarten next year. if he can get into our "target" private school which tuition includes good after-school programs, i'll either go back to the workforce or start a small business maybe.

btw, u might wanna be cautious abt the speech therapy program. coz some schools' application forms ask if the kid had ever had any special education. and i think most private schools don't like that.

原文章由 socloudy 於 07-11-25 17:16 發表
Alison,
我生埋依胎都要收工唔再生喇!我個team有個女同事同第２d同事傾開計,俾我聽到佢話我又大肚…要用到”again”依個字真係好難聽.而我last week俾San Francisco office一個一年都冇email聯絡嘅同事問我幾時due.之 ...

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發表於 07-11-27 12:26 |只看該作者

socloudy,

acutally it might be good for u if all yr coworkers know that u're pregnant. my case was that nobody except for the manager in my new team (mostly based in Colorado) knew that i was pregnant. that's why it's easier for the new manager to "cut" me. so nobody in the Colorado office would say how mean he was to lay off pregnant staff.
for my coworkers in my old team, they didn't even notice i was pregnant until i told them when i was abt 7-month pregnant. those guys .... ! when i asked them if they thought i'd just gained weight, they said they didn't see much difference.

similar case for another female coworker based in GA. initially she's in another team and had a female manager. she's pregnant maybe within 6 months to a year after she joined the company, so she couldn't travel (but our job required up to 100% travelling). so, her manager "threw" her to my initial team. after she joined our team for a while, she's "cut" by her new manager too. she's luckier than me, coz her son was already 18 months old when she got laid off. she'd been working from home and took care of her son at the same time for 18 months.

yeah ... that's the "power" of the big company's politics!

原文章由 socloudy 於 07-11-25 17:16 發表
Alison,
我生埋依胎都要收工唔再生喇!我個team有個女同事同第２d同事傾開計,俾我聽到佢話我又大肚…要用到”again”依個字真係好難聽.而我last week俾San Francisco office一個一年都冇email聯絡嘅同事問我幾時due.之 ...

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So Cloudy, 你真幸運, 有屋企人幫手揍小朋友, 我父母係香港, 小黑屋企人係georgia, 唉, 自從生左歷仔之後, 都唔可以咁博命. 以前, 無野做都會留係公司十零個鐘, 而家一夠時候就要揍仔, 遲左又怕罰錢. 真無奈.

sy mom, 我父母又係唔肯搬黎, 老豆老古董, 話跟女唔好喎, 都唔知有咩唔好, 媽咪就話怕悶, 佢黎探我一次之後, 就怕怕.

上個星期, 隊輸左既lego team 投訴, 咁我就draft 回應信, 因為個活動有另外兩間機構合作, 佢地又出錢, 又出人, 幫手搞個初賽, 所以draft 信時, 真係好難做, 又唔可以缷膊, 因為, 如果缷膊, 實得罪其他兩間機構, 但又唔可以孭哂啲責任上身, 否則, 老細實殺死我, 每revise 封信一次, 都要俾哂三方面approve, 唉, 呢再加上thanksgiving, 我老細又on vacation, 個星期真係好漫長, 真係等了又等,所以搞左成個星期, 都未俾到response 人, 自己夾係中間, 真係好難頂. 個holiday就係咁白白浪費左.

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發表於 07-11-27 23:59 |只看該作者

Socloudy
so lucky you have your parents to help u out. u dont have to worry la. my parents dont want to stay home to take care of their grandkids even we pay them $$..i could totally understand that. cuz it's hard work ma. are your parents living with u ? anyway, u sound really aggressive at work. i really have alot to learn from u. 10-20% raise is alot. wish i could make as much as u. after alvin started day care next year probably i have to quit my job too, cuz they go to 3 different schools and get out at different time so i would probably spend my day dropping and picking them up =o

Symom
i am not even sure if i could be a full time mom. i probably will have a hard time adjusting to it.....i also waited the last trimester to tell them. probably they knew already..i guess u r rite the sooner to tell them the better. but i am done with 3 boys la haha.

muimui
my parents go back to hk very often too and of cuz it feels more like home ma. cuz in the us they need ppl to drive them around in hk they could go whereever they want ma

原文章由 socloudy 於 07-11-27 08:59 發表
Alison,
我阿爸幫我湊Corey,遲d會凑埋個細嘅.而夜晚Corey就同我阿媽瞓.weekends跟我同c6.如果冇屋企人幫手睇住個仔,我跟本都唔打算生多個.
我响依间公司7年都跟咗5個老細,對上個老細仲係COO,跟佢嗰2年真係好過癮.人 ...

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發表於 07-11-29 11:36 |只看該作者

SY Mom, Alison, Muimui,
我都知自己好好彩,有阿爸&阿媽幫手.如果唔係我都唔知点算.

Alsion,
我返工好lay back咋,aggressive咪盞做多d.我又唔想太辛苦.只係之前個人工低,後尾俾我去同老細傾,佢又肯adjust一下嗰$.如果唔係就慘.依家我都知個人工under market value ga,不過我見自己大肚&market太差,所以都唔好意叫加錢.
你如果唔做工会唔會send返d仔去SI讀書呀?

SY Mom,
你舊同事係咪男同事多呀? 7個月肚都睇唔出?我果边好多秘書,只要伸下懶腰佢都知我個係仔定女

Muimui,
封lego信進展如何ah?

All,
我公司今日又cut多650份工喇!好彩我divison冇影响.但朝早响lobby見到d security guards起碼有20 to 30人(平時少1半),就知大鑊!因佢哋預備好哂d”实招”,預咗對付d搞事份子ah…

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發表於 07-11-29 14:49 |只看該作者

sy mom, 我果時陀歷仔, 細心既同事估到, 但佢地大多無出聲, 唔細心既, 就唔知, 直到我五個月時講, 佢地先知.

so cloudy, 封信左改右改, 改到我無哂心機, 卒之老細出手finalize, 點知臨send 前, 個大老細又話要改埋一份, 唉, 啲家長忍唔住, 打電話問我有回應未, 真瘀. 後來用左大老細既版本 send 出. 唉...用左成個星期先出到, 係non-profit 先至會咁, 俾for-profit公司, 一早回應左勒. 咁遲回應, 實俾人鏟上天花板.

不過今個星期六就係lego state tournament, 我去幫贏左果兩隊女童軍打氣, 兼幫手頒獎, 佢地要同62 隊team 比賽, 一定好緊張.

talk to you later!

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