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洋房

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1821#
發表於 09-2-3 14:54 |只看該作者
kleinpunkt & all other mammies,

I desperately need the experience sharing from you all!

Let me share my case first. My daughter is now 4.5 months old, her skin starts having red rashes over her body since 2 months old. The doctor has told us that's eczema. The eczema is found all over her body, arms and legs.

She drink breast milk (50%) (I quit eatting nuts, milk and beef, etc) and prescribed formula milk "REGESTIMIL" for allergy baby --> MAY I KNOW ANYONE HAS TRIED THIS BRAND B4??

She have been using 1% Hydrocortisone cream on her face (very red "on and off", she scratch the face herself to have water & even blood come out sometimes) since then.
We will use the 1% H cream if we also find her body very very red. But we keep not to use them on her body as much as we can --> IS IT CORRECT WAY TO USE THE CREAM SO FREQUENT AND FOR LONG TIME????

Beside of H cream, we keep on putting Physiogel cream/ AI cream (day + night) on face (at least 10 times on face in total), Physiogel cream/ Aqueous cream on body for moisturing --> IS IT ENOUGH??

We use Chu chu Japan-made baby washing powder (hand wash) for baby! --> any more suggestion?

For bathing, I use Vermadeem bath oil! --> IS IT GOOD FOR ECZEMA BABY?


HELP!! HELP!!! She cried severely and scratching her foot (自己左右腳互擦) these few days!! Her thigh and body getting red and red, her legs even has some swelling area.

I have already 50% breast feed & let her drink 50% low allergy milk laaaaaa! Why her (whole body & face) eczema still getting so severe?

Anything I can do?

Is your kids having the similiar situations?

How are they? Better or still the same when they grow older?

Sorry that I have asked so many questions!

[ 本帖最後由 bb0809 於 09-2-3 14:58 編輯 ]


大宅

積分: 1955


1822#
發表於 09-2-3 15:08 |只看該作者
If bb is too small just like yours, u may use H cream(steriod cream) 3 days, and then have to stop 1 week. If still worse, cycle use again.
Did doctor suggest how to use H cream for u?

When take bath, use boiled water (cool to warm but not hot). U may use something instead of bath oil, e.g. aqeouse cream is ok or oatmeal.
if u want to be convenient, can buy DermaVxxn bath treatment(it's oatmeal powder).

Put cream on BB is ok, but not too much, cos afraid of blocking those holes on skin.

Hope it can help u, just my opinion.


原帖由 bb0809 於 09-2-3 14:54 發表
kleinpunkt & all other mammies,

I desperately need the experience sharing from you all!

Let me share my case first. My daughter is now 4.5 months old, her skin starts having red rashes over her bod ...


珍珠宮

積分: 42413

好媽媽勳章


1823#
發表於 09-2-3 15:12 |只看該作者
原帖由 kleinpunkt 於 09-2-3 14:14 發表
抗生素就冇試過, 不過有醫生開過口服類固醇畀我o地, 呢個就少見o的

係咪多數會比類固醇藥膏呢??上次醫生都有比盒藥膏啊仔用,但佢要12小時先可以茶1次,唔知呢盒野係咪類固醇藥膏呢,佢茶左真係會舒服一陣嫁wo,不過大約兩個鐘左右又會痕番- -:::
唉~~我老公見佢痕到咁,又驚之前睇果個醫生誤診(因為由頭到尾睇左3次都係同一個醫生),老公想同佢搵第2個醫生睇多次,但我覺得如果佢真係濕疹,睇多次跟本改變唔到d咩......我寧願拎d錢去比佢買護膚品好過......?


等待驗證會員

積分: 38


1824#
發表於 09-2-3 15:54 |只看該作者
我之前喺一田既American Bedding Cleanik買既防塵蟎床肉套,早幾日見到喺銅鑼灣sogo 6樓有得買啦...


大宅

積分: 3170

好媽媽勳章 醒目開學勳章


1825#
發表於 09-2-3 16:04 |只看該作者

回覆susi1024169 的文章

要睇下成份至知有冇類固醇...好多時都會有o的-sone字尾...

我o地之前都睇o左唔同o既醫生, 聽到人話邊個邊個好, 又去試下, 但係睇完之後可能幫助唔大, 不過唔試過又好似唔心息咁樣...同埋唔同醫生會畀o的唔同o既advice for保護皮膚/ 要留意o既事項, 都有o的用o既...

嚴重時就真係唔睇醫生都唔得囉...


洋房

積分: 159


1826#
發表於 09-2-3 16:05 |只看該作者

回覆 # 的文章

bb0809

my son also have severe eczema for the first 15 mths but after changing to neocate (a very very very expensive milk), his eczema improved significantly. He still have very itchy eczema and i still need to use steriod almost everyday but the eczema is less than last year.

We didn't consult an allergist until he was 15 mths cause we've consulted many many paed and they just prescribed stronger and stronger steroid and it didn't work. I was very upset later to find out even the famous and expensive paed gave him a very strong steroid to put on his face (of course, we didn't know and we used many times before).

In my opinion, if you bb continues to have severe eczema, i think you should consult an allergist (also very expensive if private doc) to find out what she is allergic and consider trying neocate for a while to see if it has improved.

hope our painful experiences will help u la!


大宅

積分: 1932


1827#
發表於 09-2-3 16:14 |只看該作者
好似有媽咪提過Lactobacillus Acidophilus.
其實人的消化系統有超過400種的細菌.
Lactobacillus Acidophilus只係其中一種.
它主要負責剌激免疫系統,對抗腸道細菌和食物傳播細菌的侵害.
不同環境和因素會影響腸內微生物區的平衡.包括使用藥物(如抗生素,避孕藥等)壓力太大和營養不良等.
其實不用太擔心bb的抵抗力問題.其實濕疹bb的抵抗力不是一般所說的好與不好.只是簡稱為免疫問題.
白血球呈抗奮狀態,無論接觸到的或空氣中的致敏物質,都會發出警號.
使用藥物就是將它壓抑作用,而實際上幫助不大.更可能引發更大的反應.
長期食用抗敏感藥物,有機會擾亂本身的免疫系統.而自身無抵禦一般性的病毒及細菌能力.較其他小朋友容易染感冒或病情比較嚴重等.


珍珠宮

積分: 42413

好媽媽勳章


1828#
發表於 09-2-3 16:20 |只看該作者
原帖由 kleinpunkt 於 09-2-3 16:04 發表
要睇下成份至知有冇類固醇...好多時都會有o的-sone字尾...

我o地之前都睇o左唔同o既醫生, 聽到人話邊個邊個好, 又去試下, 但係睇完之後可能幫助唔大, 不過唔試過又好似唔心息咁樣...同埋唔同醫生會畀o的唔同o既advi ...


IC......
啊仔近幾粒鐘情況又好番d,唔知係咪因為茶左果隻膏所以先無咁痕,見佢無咁辛苦又"由"疑緊睇唔睇多次醫生好,但又好驚今晚夜d又黎料><
你地會唔會要求醫生開定d類固醇藥膏看門口嫁?啊仔果盒膏都就黎用曬(我其實唔知佢有無類固醇,佢盒面上無寫藥名,佢寫左係藥袋到但比我掉左= ="),諗緊如果去睇多次醫生,問佢拎定d類固醇藥膏,發得勁時用唔知會唔會唔比呢??


大宅

積分: 1932


1829#
發表於 09-2-3 16:30 |只看該作者
可以轉食Karihome,特別的地方係成份中的.
Natural Sialic acid
Natural monophosphate nucleotides & nucleosides
Natural polyamines
Total Phospgholipids
Sphingomyelin
Probiotic cultures
Bifdobacterium Lactis Bi-04 &07
MCFM
蘋果多酚---對皮膚好好的
優寡糖(菊糖,果寡糖)係腸道細菌的主要食糧.
我比較過市面其他的奶粉(包括日本奶粉)都沒有呢d成份.
如果bb沒有對奶敏感&濕疹只是輕微.可以考慮轉呢個奶粉.可以買細的試下先.


洋房

積分: 354


1830#
發表於 09-2-3 17:19 |只看該作者

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原帖由 kleinpunkt 於 09-2-3 14:14 發表
抗生素就冇試過, 不過有醫生開過口服類固醇畀我o地, 呢個就少見o的

係咪多數會比類固醇藥膏呢??上次醫生都有比盒藥膏啊仔用,但佢要12小時先可以茶1次,唔知呢盒野係咪類固醇藥膏呢,佢茶左真係會舒服一陣嫁wo,不過大約兩個鐘左右又會痕番- -:::
唉~~我老公見佢痕到咁,又驚之前睇果個醫生誤診(因為由頭到尾睇左3次都係同一個醫生),老公想同佢搵第2個醫生睇多次,但我覺得如果佢真係濕疹,睇多次跟本改變唔到d咩......我寧願拎d錢去比佢買護膚品好過......?






soeries

soeries, kalau & all other mammies,

Thanks very much for sharing your experience with me! I am really very depressed these feel days especially when I heard my baby cry for severe itchy --> it kills my heart!! My baby finally falls asleep after taking the "anti-itchy" medicine prescribed by paed.

Any opinion about the "anti-itchy" medicine (orange liquid/1ml each time)? Can drink for a long duration?


soeries,
my paed doctor has taught us to continue to use until her eczema/ itchiness gets better --> but have mentioned when to stop! I just fear the steroid may affect my baby's growth.

Thanks very much for your "cycle" suggestion. Let me try and report later. BTW, where can I buy the DermaVxxn bath treatment? Is it separated as small bag? How much? (coz I fear that I buy the wrong thing)


kalau,
Thanks very much for sharing the painful experience, it's very useful to me. A few queries pop up, how much is the neocate milk (which producer) and where I can buy it?

How's your little one now? Is he getting better after consulting the allergist? Any prescribed medicine to drink? BTW, how old is he now?

Would you please suggest an allergist for my reference. Do you know -- is there any allergist in public hospital?

Hope that all our kids gets better & better and heal one day!



MILLION THANKS for all of you to answer my questions!!

原帖由 kalau 於 09-2-3 16:05 發表
bb0809

my son also have severe eczema for the first 15 mths but after changing to neocate (a very very very expensive milk), his eczema improved significantly. He still have very itchy eczema and i s ...


大宅

積分: 4561


1831#
發表於 09-2-3 20:24 |只看該作者
bb0809,

The "anti-itchy" medicine should be piriton, it is save and old medicine for allergy. My son have used from born until now.

For your case, it is recomended to use
1% Hydrocortisone for face and body together with anti-itchy. F.y.r. body can apply strong steriod than face. The about steriod is save for baby. Base on the severe, apply 3 - 5 days continously, than stop 4 - 2 days for the skin recovery. If the condition remain or better, start next cycle. Please rememder, even it get better or all well, DON'T stop applying at least one week, otherwise it is very easy to come back again. The reason for apply continously even it being get well, the surface of skin seem to be recovered, but deep skin are not, it is very easy to come back again. If the skin do not get better after 3 weeks, you should consult your doc to change other medicine.

At the same time, you should find out what is the allergies and avoiding them. For ex., stop 進保 within this period, wash baby bed cover with 60 degree of water, use mechine rinsing after hand washing, try to stop using softener, smell from furnitur. It is hard to find out, but should try to help you baby.


大宅

積分: 4561


1832#
發表於 09-2-3 20:27 |只看該作者
我係看政府的,所以有大量看門口

原帖由 susi1024169 於 09-2-3 16:20 發表


IC......
啊仔近幾粒鐘情況又好番d,唔知係咪因為茶左果隻膏所以先無咁痕,見佢無咁辛苦又"由"疑緊睇唔睇多次醫生好,但又好驚今晚夜d又黎料><
你地會唔會要求醫生開定d類固醇藥膏看門口嫁?啊仔果盒膏都就黎用曬(我其 ...


大宅

積分: 4561


1833#
發表於 09-2-3 20:33 |只看該作者
呀女病完到我病,燒左兩日,今日才叫好番好多,我都驚會唔會到呀仔


大宅

積分: 3170

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1834#
發表於 09-2-3 22:19 |只看該作者
珀珀,慧慧媽,

保重身體呀!


大宅

積分: 1955


1835#
發表於 09-2-3 23:14 |只看該作者
珀珀,慧慧媽:

你終於返來, 我等左你好耐. 你依家好0的未呀, 真係要take care. 盡量休息多些, 我地真係需要你的意見. 我想問下, blood test 係未唔準? 個女test 完, e 生話唔駛戒口, 但係阿女的濕疹都係咁, 我唔知點算啦...

原帖由 珀珀,慧慧媽 於 09-2-3 20:33 發表
呀女病完到我病,燒左兩日,今日才叫好番好多,我都驚會唔會到呀仔


洋房

積分: 354


1836#
發表於 09-2-4 00:49 |只看該作者
珀珀,慧慧媽 ,

Your advice is very useful. Let me start the cycles and see what happen. U know, my baby whole body gets severe red rashes (especially the thigh --> new swelling rashes nearly cover her whole little leg & foot!!! )


Wish your little girl a qucik recovery.

BTW, I have made an appt with public hospital paed next week. Do you have any advice for us --> E.g.
If we want to test on the sources of allergy, can public hosp provide the test? What choices of test we can have!

If we want prescription for medicine, what choices we have? Any moisturer will be prescribed?

Sorry for my series of question --> coz I really don't know what to do laaaa! So down...


原帖由 珀珀,慧慧媽 於 09-2-3 20:24 發表
bb0809,

The "anti-itchy" medicine should be piriton, it is save and old medicine for allergy. My son have used from born until now.

For your case, it is recomended to use 1% Hydrocortisone for face ...


大宅

積分: 1078


1837#
發表於 09-2-4 09:48 |只看該作者
bb0809,

You have to observe what's the allergen that affects your baby.

原帖由 bb0809 於 09-2-4 00:49 發表
珀珀,慧慧媽 ,

Your advice is very useful. Let me start the cycles and see what happen. U know, my baby whole body gets severe red rashes (especially the thigh --> new swelling rashes nearly cover he ...


大宅

積分: 4561


1838#
發表於 09-2-4 11:14 |只看該作者
Do you means gov hospital or outpatient? In my experience, the normal rule should be: outpatient -> hosptail ped ->dermatology -> allergy.

If you want to transfer to derma or allergy, you MUST emphasize to allergy, espeacilly on swollen, hard breathing, rash, and change colour on face. (有咁嚴重得咁嚴重, 如果唔係就係咁易打發妳走).

In the allergy dept, it will perform both of blood test and skin test, I think it is most helpful to us. But they will suggest perform testing after 1 year old (排得來都差不多).

In the derma dept, athough medicine provided almost the same as private outpatient, you can learn a lot of knowlegde for the treatment of eczema.

In additionm applying steriod after bathing is the most effect time, then apply cream for moisturing. Be patient, 用藥唔好見好就停, 唔係好易番發, 好少少時可減少藥量.

In addition, I see that you use Vermadeem bath oil, is it any smell? you should use smellness bath oil for bathing.

原帖由 bb0809 於 09-2-4 00:49 發表
珀珀,慧慧媽 ,

Your advice is very useful. Let me start the cycles and see what happen. U know, my baby whole body gets severe red rashes (especially the thigh --> new swelling rashes nearly cover he ...

[ 本帖最後由 珀珀,慧慧媽 於 09-2-4 11:46 編輯 ]


大宅

積分: 4561


1839#
發表於 09-2-4 11:34 |只看該作者
唉, 斷斷續續都成個月啦, 希望唔好細佬啦...

妳做blood test 是不是 test 96種那隻? 那隻外太準, 因我以前在政府做blood時問過同樣的問題, 他們話政府做最多十來卄隻都不太準(60%~70%), 更可況出面過百隻的! 他們解釋大約是: 1)未接觸過的未有抗體, 固然check 不出, 但不找表冇反應. 2)接觸過的但只有少量抗體, 也check不出, 但真實反應可就很強. 3)一些delay reaction 也check 不到.

不過他說也可做reference, 但妳什麼也check 不到也比較意外....

我現在也懶了, 直接用已磨了的fine oat, 效果也不錯, 但就冇organic啦.

原帖由 soeries 於 09-2-3 23:14 發表
珀珀,慧慧媽:

你終於返來, 我等左你好耐. 你依家好0的未呀, 真係要take care. 儘量休息多些, 我地真係需要你的意見. 我想問下, blood test 係未唔準? 個女test 完, e 生話唔駛戒口, 但係阿女的濕疹都係咁, 我唔知 ...

[ 本帖最後由 珀珀,慧慧媽 於 09-2-4 11:42 編輯 ]


珍珠宮

積分: 42413

好媽媽勳章


1840#
發表於 09-2-4 11:47 |只看該作者
唉~好辛苦....佢已經連續第4日痕到訓唔到,訓15分鐘醒45分鐘,狂r......我都就黎din.....琴日訓前情況好似改善左咁,無咩點r,點知一訓著就黎料,我就好似無訓過咁.....
佢訓之前1粒鐘已經同佢用愛x她既bath oil同佢沖涼,之後同佢茶膏先訓,點知佢狂r,訓唔著,同佢食左次抗敏感藥,佢終於訓到,但訓左唔夠半粒鐘就醒左,又r........大半個鐘先訓得番,訓3個字又醒~~呀..................

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