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大宅

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發表於 06-8-7 20:24 |只看該作者

驗生長激素過程

我個女今日兒科覆診,佢巳睇左接近4年兒科.因為佢太矮小,而家囡囡胸部開始發育.醫生話第二期發育.正常應該會高得比平時快的.但囡囡都吾會點高.所以要囡囡下星期一14號入院驗(生長激素有幾多)醫生話要打3枝針的.之前果晚8:00後不可飲食的.
打第一針clonidine(降保適要令囡囡的白血球同埋血糖下降至最低點,才可抽血.(佢話咁先驗到生長激素有幾多)但打左呢枝針後會立即..頭暈. 作嘔. 心跳加速, 會好辛苦的,有可能會休克劃者分迷的 :cry: 真係好擔心佢會休克劃者分迷.
打第二.三針是(姨島素同埋昇糖素)會令囡囡的白血球同埋血糖提升番到正常水平的.


大宅

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發表於 06-8-7 20:29 |只看該作者

Re: 生長激素

醫生話如果身體中的(生長激素)吾夠,咁就要幫囡囡持續打(生長激素)二至五年不等..仲要每日接受注射.驗生長激素報告要到9月27日先有結果,我真係好擔心 :-(
每日接受注射,痈死佢啦,仲要二至五年不等...
有無人打過(生長激素)?
是否要打幾耐就長留在醫院幾耐?


別墅

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發表於 06-8-8 00:03 |只看該作者

Re: 驗身體中生長激素

Which hospital did you go ?


大宅

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4#
發表於 06-8-8 12:02 |只看該作者

Re: 驗身體中生長激素

屯門醫院


公爵府

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5#
發表於 06-8-8 12:42 |只看該作者

Re: 驗身體中生長激素

你唔好咁


民房

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發表於 06-8-8 13:54 |只看該作者

Re: 驗身體中生長激素

Dear fionlai60

相信每一個ma ma 聽完你說, 都會為兒女心痛..理解的.
但你囡囡都好靚女啊 ^_^ 支持你們啊!
:-P


大宅

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7#
發表於 06-8-8 14:30 |只看該作者

Re: 驗身體中生長激素

janeleung :
你個女係100個女童裏排尾第2個最矮.都吾使擔心,因佢未偏離條生長線,我個女係偏離條生長線好多啦,佢今年12月就10歲,但身高只有118cm相等於一個六至7歲的女孩 :cry:

小魔怪9966:
多謝你的支持,希望囡囡可以平安無是啦.


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發表於 06-8-8 15:13 |只看該作者

Re: 驗身體中生長激素

fionlai60:
聽完你講,我都好明白真是好擔心,因為亞囡都有在威院看成長科,佢現在3.9歲都是得91cm..醫生都有話可能要打生長激素,所以聽完你講我仲擔心,但佢仲細,所以醫生話可以等下.....
希望你囡囡打完針,可以幫到佢快高長大........


大宅

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9#
發表於 06-8-8 15:57 |只看該作者

Re: 驗身體中生長激素

fionlai60,

我都好明白你心情, 我囡囡也是好矮, 剛12歲, 未夠140cm,都有睇緊QE.
我問到同事有個朋友幫個女打過, 係幾年前在政府醫院打的, 打了2年多, 是每天在家裡幫小朋友打的, 他小朋友打後一直有高, 雖然她囡囡現在都不算高, 但佢已好滿意,所以不用擔心, 先做左檢查睇左結果先啦....... 另外PLS CHK PM~


WWS,

咁你小朋友有冇做過fionlai60囡囡下星期驗生長激素個種檢查呀?


男爵府

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發表於 06-8-8 18:14 |只看該作者

Re: 驗身體中生長激素

sandymum:
仲未,因為醫生話佢細,可以觀察一先,....要定期見下醫生...

sandymum 寫道:
WWS,

咁你小朋友有冇做過fionlai60囡囡下星期驗生長激素個種檢查呀?


大宅

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11#
發表於 06-8-10 11:14 |只看該作者

Re: 驗身體中生長激素

wwc :
你囡3.9歲91cm都吾使太擔心住.因為佢年齡細,而家先係第一度發育,我囡果時都係咁.不過到左第二度發育時,你一定要多留意佢的高度,因我囡今次要驗(生長激素)都係因第二期發育達佢胸部開始脹,而身高都好慢.
其實我個仔而家3.10歲都係96cm


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發表於 06-8-10 11:59 |只看該作者

Re: 驗身體中生長激素

fionlai60,

好明白你的心情, 真的會佷擔心...我都支持你呀

我女女都是很細小, 很多同年齡的都高成大半個頭 :cry:

你話"第一度發育", 是幾多歲?


大宅

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13#
發表於 06-8-10 17:22 |只看該作者

Re: 驗身體中生長激素

lovelovebb :
多謝你支持."第一度發育"是在5歲前


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發表於 06-8-10 22:45 |只看該作者

Re: 驗身體中生長激素

fionlai60,

What is the result of the test ? What is the level of your daughter's growth hormone ?

sng


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發表於 06-8-11 08:27 |只看該作者

Re: 驗身體中生長激素

I found this info. :


http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/11/18/60II/main584265.shtml

Kids' Hormones: A Growth Industry
Kids Can Take Growth Hormones To Make Them Taller

Sept. 8 , 2004
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Michael Finley, 13, says he’s grown around 3 or 4 inches in a year. Every night, he gives himself an injection that helps him grow. (CBS/60 Minutes II)






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"I was trying to stay strong for myself, for my family. So my outward persona was happy, probably. But on the inside, I was dealing with a lot of depression.”
Stephen Thompson
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(CBS) For many children, being the shortest kid in class means being picked on, being called names and suffering the humiliation of being chosen last in gym class.

Kids used to have to live with the teasing, but now, the 21st century family can change all this with injections of something called human growth hormone. A recent FDA approval now allows the shortest children out there to take daily shots of the drug.

This kind of medication is not at all uncommon. In fact, it's become a growth industry in America. But, as correspondent Vicki Mabrey reported last fall, it raises some troubling questions.
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For short kids like 14-year-old Michael Finley, only one thing matters.

Michael says he’s grown around 3 or 4 inches in a year. But those inches have not come easily. Every night, he gives himself an injection that helps him grow.

The medication Michael takes is a synthetic growth hormone that's virtually identical to a natural hormone we all produce in our pituitary gland. It tells our bones and muscles to grow.

Since kids do most of their growing at night, Michael takes his shot before going to bed.

For nearly 20 years, artificial growth hormone has been used to successfully treat kids who don’t produce the hormone on their own.

What’s different now is that last summer the FDA voted to approve Eli Lilly’s growth hormone, Humatrope, for healthy children who do produce the hormone, but are still in the shortest 1.2 percent of their age group. Translated into adult height? That’s about 5 feet 3 inches for a man or 4 feet 11 inches for a woman.

In some ways, the FDA's decision is just a formality. Thousands of kids who don't fit that profile have been taking it anyway.

Michael didn’t fall into that category because when he went to the doctor he was 4 feet 10 inches -- in the 25th percentile for his age group. But it was perfectly legal for his doctor to give him a prescription -- so that's what she did.

At the time, Michael says he was concerned that his height was holding him back, especially when he tried out for the basketball team.

"I tried out for the team in seventh grade,” says Michael. “I had practiced everyday, too, like, because, you know, I wanted to make it so bad … I thrived for it. … I didn’t make it.”

Not making the team is a disappointment many of children have to live through. But in the Finley household, the failure was devastating. Michael's mother, Micki, is only 5 feet tall. But his father, Lee, was a star player in high school. And his sister Cindy, at 5 feet 10 inches, is following in dad's footsteps.

For Michael, pick-up games in his Dallas suburb are a daily ritual with brother, Will. The two brothers were evenly matched, until last year, when Will, 18 months younger, outgrew Michael.

“They’re best friends, they’re real close. But when your little brother is almost a foot taller than you, he would say, you know, ‘He’s bigger than me. Why is he bigger than me? It’s not fair,’” says mother, Micki. “I don’t know what to tell you. I can’t help you."
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The Finleys went to see Dr. Dana Hardin, a pediatric endocrinologist and head of the growth hormone program at Children’s Hospital in Dallas. She examined Michael and monitored his growth for several months. Tests indicated Michael was producing adequate levels of growth hormone, but x-rays of his bones revealed his adult height would probably be only 5 feet 5 inches.

What made Michael a good candidate for growth hormone?

“His family stature, his genetic potential. His father is very tall, his mother is average height for a woman,” says Hardin.

“More than just looking at his family height, I looked at his rate of growth over time. And Michael was not keeping up with the growth curve.”

Was it a hard decision for Michael to make? What does he think he’ll get from being taller?

"No,’” says Michael. "Females can be shorter than males. And that's all right with them. It's just some males want to be taller, because they think, 'Well, I'm a man. I should be tall and strong.'"
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Since artificial growth hormone was first manufactured in 1985, it's helped thousands of sick children. But increasingly, the drug is touted for more controversial uses - athletes and aging adults take it to increase muscle mass and stay young.

The FDA's approval of human growth hormone for use in healthy children was based on studies presented by Eli Lilly. Those studies showed that if children received hormone injections "three times weekly," they would grow an average of 1.5 inches. With shots "six times weekly" at a higher dose, the average was 3 inches. In approximately 10 percent of the children, the drug did not work at all.

The most common side effects were mild -- ear infections and joint and muscle pain.

With the number of healthy children using growth hormone now likely to skyrocket, a lot of people are wondering how safe the drug really is.

Dr. Glenn Braunstein, chairman of medicine at Cedars-Sinai Medical Center in Los Angeles, chaired the FDA advisory panel that reviewed Eli Lilly’s application.

“It’s got a very good safety profile,” says Braunstein.

The studies Lilly presented found that, on average, children could gain 1.5 to 3 inches if they started taking the drug during adolescence. Even though there were few side effects during the trial, Braunstein says little is known beyond that.

“What we don’t know is what’s going to happen 30, 40 years down the road,’ says Braunstein. “But that’s true of any drug.”

Isn’t it difficult as a physician to prescribe a drug for a perfectly healthy child?

“Yes. I agree. And that’s why you have to weigh the risk versus the benefit,” says Braunstein. “So if the benefit is going to be potentially increased height, less social isolation or bullying, a child that is happier, than a small risk may be worth it.”

To Arthur Caplan, a bioethicist from the University of Pennsylvania, this is a critical moment in time because we're beginning to accept artificial means to improve healthy children.

“Every kid has something they’re not good at, every person has something that is less than normal. That’s what we have to live with in life. We don’t try to fix it with drugs. We sort of say we’ve got to learn to cope with some of our foibles, something that’s less than perfect. That’s what humans are.”

Caplan also worries that since the drug is now approved for short but healthy children, it won’t be long before we all start feeling a bit inadequate.

“We’re all going to wind up having a campaign aimed at us that says, ‘You feeling a little short? Worried about that? As a kid, as your mom, what about injections,'” says Caplan.

”People are going to be saying, ‘Hmm, 6 feet 3 inches, that’s not really quite big enough to be a good forward on my high school basketball team; 6 feet 5 inches might. Let’s try it.’”

What does this tell us about what parents might be willing to do for their children down the road?

“It’s a kind of canary in the cave. There’s a whole slew of things coming down the road, where we’re going to have the same discussions,” says Caplan. “And I think what parents are going to do is, they’re going to face the question, ‘How much manipulations, how much engineering do I want to do on my child?’”

But ethical questions were not of great concern to another one of Dr. Hardin's patients, Stephen Thompson, because he says he knows what it's like to be short.

Thompson, a junior at Texas A&M University, now fits in just fine, but when he entered high school, he was just 4 feet 11 inches.

“I was trying to stay strong for myself, for my family. So my outward persona was happy, probably,” says Thompson. “But on the inside, I was dealing with a lot of depression.”

Thompson says people thought he was 10, 11, or 12 when he was 15, 16 years old: “I’d go to a restaurant, sometimes they’d say, ‘Do you want to see the kids' menu?’ And you know, I mean, it sounds funny. You try to laugh at it. But really, you know, it’s devastating.”

It took nightly injections for two and a half years, but Thompson eventually reached 5 feet 9 inches. He says he no longer feels like he’s trapped in a little boy’s body -- a welcome change that lets him be just another guy on campus.

“It changed my whole outlook on everything,” he says.
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Thompson was lucky because his insurance company paid for his hormone injections - a treatment that runs about $20,000 a year. What's unclear, however, is how the FDA's new approval will impact who's covered and who's not.

“I personally don’t think that society should pay for this. I think that society’s health care dollars are better spend on prenatal care and immunization of children,” says Braunstein.

But won’t this just wind up being an option for the rich if insurance won’t pay for it?

“It may be, but that doesn’t necessarily mean that we should not allow people who are very distraught and have the financial wherewithal to get the drug and to use the drug,” says Braunstein.

For now, a foundation partly funded by Eli Lilly is helping the Finleys pay for Michael’s treatment. His doctor estimates he might eventually stand over 6 feet tall.

As for the three inches he’s grown? Michael says they’ve helped him reach a benchmark he’s been waiting for all his life. He’s now a little taller than his mother.

“That was a good feeling. I can look down at her and go, ‘Hi, Mom,’” says Michael.

And his friends’ reactions?

“They’re like, ‘Wow, so what are you doing,’” says Michael. “Well then, I told them I was taking growth hormone. Like ‘Oh really?’ And so they were like thinking, ‘Hmm, maybe I should try that.’”

His mother, Micki, says it’s worth it: “I could honestly look him in the face and say, ‘Michael, I tried the best I could. And I got you a couple extra inches in there.’”
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Since this story aired last fall, Michael Finley has grown another two inches. But now, he's quit taking the injections because the foundation stopped paying for the treatment, and his family's insurance company won't cover the shots.

© MMIV, CBS Worldwide Inc. All Rights Reserved.


大宅

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發表於 06-8-11 10:57 |只看該作者

Re: 驗身體中生長激素

sng:
測試的結果是驗身體中生長激素是否正常人的分量.如果吾夠分量就要打(生長激素).我的女兒的生長激素的水平我都吾清楚,我諗醫生自己有個準則吧!

好多謝你你比我的資料,我巳睇晒,果個kid好叻,可以每日幫自己打(生長激素).不過佢13歲,我個囡9歲,我諗我囡囡都吾可以咁勁每日幫自己打(生長激素). :-(

文中寫有副作用-- 耳朵傳染和聯接和肌肉痛,吾知係吾係每個人都會有咁的反應呢

文中私人好幸運有保險公司支付藥費,低我問過我的保險是無得賠的.


子爵府

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發表於 06-8-11 12:18 |只看該作者

Re: 驗身體中生長激素

我仔仔都係細細粒.....高得好慢 :-( :-( 真係好擔心 我約左返健康院見姑娘, 聽下佢地d意見先 :-|


別墅

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18#
發表於 06-8-11 12:53 |只看該作者

Re: 驗身體中生長激素

fionlai60,

What about your son ? Is his height up to standard ? My son also very short and I but him in K1 be a big boy instead of K2. Still a 3 year kid is taller than him (my son is 4 !!!)

100cm for 4.6 years old. My husband always said I am too nervous boys needs to wait until F.1 to F3. But I afraid by that time will be too late !!

I think people around me will not support me to bring my kid to do the test as your daughter did.

The oveall protection in USA of course is better that's why people not keen to have child now !


大宅

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發表於 06-8-11 18:58 |只看該作者

Re: 驗身體中生長激素

sng:
我個仔3歲10個月,96cm高,你仔仔100cm for 4.6 years old好似矮左d.不過佢未到第二期發育都吾使太擔心的.你可以留意住佢先,等佢再大d約8-9歲先再決定是否驗身體中生長激素.

我個囡係3歲後開始吾係點高,每年高好小,條高度生長線巳偏低好多.轉左睇兒科都成3年幾.最初果年都有照過骨X-Ray, 抽血又驗過,都係話我囡冇問題,.只係比平常人長高得慢.直至而家先叫我囡驗身體中生長激素(因佢第二期發育.胸部開始脹)所以我覺得你仔仔仲細.吾使咁快驗生長激素.不過你下次睇開醫生可以問下醫生,睇佢有咩回應比你吧!


別墅

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發表於 06-8-12 01:14 |只看該作者

Re: 驗身體中生長激素

fionlai60,

Thanks for your advice. I will wait for another few years to observe for the time being as you suggested.

sng

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