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伯爵府

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發表於 18-12-2 18:06 |只看該作者
親友在英國求學,响英國出咗張電話卡,用華為電話,自9月開始至現在,每星期都收到SMS, 內容係Pay for it Charge , 每次就收咗4.5英鎊,一共已10次。曾email到電信公司,回覆話係應該某啲Apps自動send出sms, 無得拒收,情況同被打刧一樣 請問有無高人可指點迷津教吓應點做


伯爵府

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40#
發表於 18-12-4 09:48 |只看該作者

回覆樓主:

謝謝各位回覆


珍珠宮

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39#
發表於 18-12-4 00:13 |只看該作者
panda361 發表於 18-12-3 23:46
You are the victim of a ‘payforit’ scam. After several months, I think I have finally worked out h ...



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38#
發表於 18-12-3 23:46 |只看該作者
You are the victim of a ‘payforit’ scam. After several months, I think I have finally worked out how to deal with this correctly in order to get the best outcome.



Unfortunately, the way that this works is that you have to contact the company taking your money and get them to stop the subscription. If you ask O2, this is is what they will ask you to do. They won’t deal with it themselves and the rules are on their side in refusing to get involved at this first stage.



There should be a phone number in the text you received confirming the subscription that you can call using included minutes. If you have difficulty identifying the originator of the charges O2 should be able to help you with that.



Call them and tell them that you never knowingly subscribed to their 'service' and that you want them to stop the fraudulent subscription. Record the call if possible. You should also insist on a full refund of any money they have taken. Alternatively you can send a STOP message to the 5 digit number given in the text, but this will cost (usually 10p) and you won’t get a refund. Don’t reply to the texts, it probably won’t work and will probably cost.



You are entitled, under Section 45(3) of the Consumer Rights Act 2015 to insist that this refund is made back to the account from which it was taken. Under section 45(4) of the same act, any refund needs to be made within 14 days of it being offered and accepted. It’s probably worth letting the company know that you are aware of your rights in this respect.



For small amounts, the companies often refund in full with little argument. If the amount involved is larger though, they may only offer a partial refund. Accepting this will weaken your legal position.



If the company do not co-operate or do not refund in full, you can then revert to GiffGaff and ask them to take action under the Mobile Operators Code of Practice for the management and operation of PFI (Payforit). This was provided to Ofcom as part of a consultation in 2012. As far as I am aware it has not been superseded or revoked.

Under this procedure it becomes the network’s responsibility to adjudicate in disputes between ‘service providers’ and consumers. If you are unable to reach agreement they should advise you on your rights to go to ADR (Alternative Dispute Resolution). A failure to follow this procedure could be referred to the Communications Ombudsman.



If a full refund is refused I have evidence that these companies will pay out when faced with the possibility of a claim in the small claims court. In most cases the companies pay on receipt of a 'letter before action'. In a few cases they haven't settled until court documents have been served. No case I am aware of has so far been decided by a court.



Ultimately they have to prove that you knowingly consented to the payments or make a full refund. That is almost impossible because there is now a body of evidence that your consent can be ‘spoofed’ by malware. Consent obtained fraudulently is not consent. Full advice on how to proceed if you encounter a problem with your refund can be found on the website linked in my signature.



You should also complain to the Phone-paid Services Authority about the unauthorised charges. The regulator will not handle individual cases, but will take action if specific companies generate a disproportionate number of complaints. Your complaint could speed the closure of the fraudster and prevent other consumers being scammed.



I hope you manage to sort this out. If you need further help please contact me here or through the payforitsucks.co.uk website.

These scams are a disgrace to the mobile communications industry and it is time that they were stopped.



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37#
發表於 18-12-3 18:26 |只看該作者
我用樓主圖中嘅“PayForlT Charge” google到圖中信息

其中有人話聽到收音機講,連電話號碼都吾駛,只係click入某link已經會中招,所以佢問O2點防止,O2回覆,要佢自己stop payforit功能(係防止,而吾係停個收費)

我同意上面jm所講,根本啲電訊商係有收取利益,所以中招,佢哋吾會理
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男爵府

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36#
發表於 18-12-3 17:06 |只看該作者
免費App「陰招」狂發短訊破財
http://orientaldaily.on.cc/cnt/news/20140113/00176_013.html


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35#
發表於 18-12-3 14:43 |只看該作者

回覆樓主:

多謝各位解答


珍珠宮

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34#
發表於 18-12-3 08:02 |只看該作者
stkyo 發表於 18-12-3 03:13
係?換埋新號碼都無?

我係回覆緊樓上個JM”呢句真,個app會繼續偷新號碼,去收你錢。”


佢親友多數係下載咗非官方古怪App。


伯爵府

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33#
發表於 18-12-3 07:53 |只看該作者
Cut card點會再收到錢,咪玩la
將電話還原,delete 唒d apps
重新上路
不能理解可以被人不斷扣錢都唔cut card


男爵府

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32#
發表於 18-12-3 05:25 |只看該作者
agnesbee 發表於 18-12-2 20:02
電訊商回覆,話唔肯定cut號碼停唔停到第三方濫發,呢吓先慘

電訊商都好 無賴,cut了電話號碼有咩理由仲會收到sms?!佢梗係想繼續有錢收啦!唔駛聽佢講,快啲轉號碼
與智者為伍 與善者同行


男爵府

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31#
發表於 18-12-3 04:48 |只看該作者
stkyo 發表於 18-12-3 03:13
係?換埋新號碼都無?

我係回覆緊樓上個JM”呢句真,個app會繼續偷新號碼,去收你錢。”

睇漏咗


象牙宮

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30#
發表於 18-12-3 03:13 |只看該作者
MandyT1 發表於 18-12-3 02:43
還原原廠設定對收SMS沒有幫助

係?換埋新號碼都無?

我係回覆緊樓上個JM”呢句真,個app會繼續偷新號碼,去收你錢。”


禁止訪問

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29#
發表於 18-12-3 02:53 |只看該作者
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男爵府

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28#
發表於 18-12-3 02:43 |只看該作者
stkyo 發表於 18-12-2 20:59
唯有還原原廠設定

還原原廠設定對收SMS沒有幫助


象牙宮

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27#
發表於 18-12-2 20:59 |只看該作者
panda361 發表於 18-12-2 20:54
呢句真,個app會繼續偷新號碼,去收你錢。

你有冇用防毒軟件去掃下中乜嘢毒?

唯有還原原廠設定


珍珠宮

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26#
發表於 18-12-2 20:54 |只看該作者
agnesbee 發表於 18-12-2 20:02
電訊商回覆,話唔肯定cut號碼停唔停到第三方濫發,呢吓先慘


呢句真,個app會繼續偷新號碼,去收你錢。

你有冇用防毒軟件去掃下中乜嘢毒?



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25#
發表於 18-12-2 20:54 |只看該作者
頭先八卦望下, d 人話原來 click d 不知明既link (fb 果d, 廣告等) 都有機會中招.


侯爵府

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24#
發表於 18-12-2 20:37 |只看該作者
agnesbee 發表於 18-12-2 19:03
現在不是佢用data收費,而係有啲第三方發信息俾你,之後就收你錢,無得反抗,最衰過俾人打劫
...

我女之前玩左隻games
佢會發sms 去我電話list 既人
我覺得係我女按既
因為只send 左比英國既親人
就收左我幾蚊
我delete 左隻games 就冇再收錢


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23#
發表於 18-12-2 20:33 |只看該作者

回覆樓主:

呢類咪似以前香港都有果 d 濫發收錢 SMS 我記得嗰時有講, 電訊商有錢分的
總有離別的時候


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發表於 18-12-2 20:30 |只看該作者
agnesbee 發表於 18-12-2 20:02
電訊商回覆,話唔肯定cut號碼停唔停到第三方濫發,呢吓先慘

Send條link比佢睇下點處理,最下面有教改新電話號碼

https://community.giffgaff.com/t5/Tips-Guides/Premium-text-charges-Do-s-And-Don-t-s/m-p/18597940/highlight/true#M145989

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