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Please advise:

My hubby and I are both Hongkongers and holders of Australia PR. We will move to Oz for good this year (meaning we haven't stayed in Oz for 2 years). If we will give birth to a baby next year, where should I deliver in order get both HK birth cert and Oz citizenship? Is it possible and how?

Thank you.

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本帖最後由 puib 於 11-6-12 23:43 編輯

emi1y & Cyn(Cynthia),

Thanks your comments. Your logic is correct. Perhaps I will adopt what you did.

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本帖最後由 Cyn(Cynthia) 於 11-6-11 03:47 編輯

Totally agree with emily, I think the main reason depends on the intention for which country that you are going to reside.

My 2 kids were also born in OZ in 2007 & 2010 and got the Australian passport, afterthat they applied and granted HKSAR passport, HKID and 回鄉証。

From my experience, its better to give birth in Oz not only for medical, baby bonus and other benefits, but also to get the citizenship straightaway. Then you can apply for HK PR and get HKID card if you will return to HK and reside definitely.

Just for your info, good luck Puib ^ ^

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發表於 11-6-3 11:15 |只看該作者

Hi, Puib, if you will be residing in OZ, it will be hard for your bb to get the HKID (3*). when he will be deliveried in OZ. In this case, you can apply a resident visa for him/her when you returns. It takes 7 yrs to get the HKID (3*) if the policy didnt change.

When you deliveried in HK, your bb will hold a HKID. if I remember right, your bb can't get the citizenship straightaway. In stead, he/she will have a PR firstly. & the bb benefits may be different.

This is a complicated & hard decision for you. Anyway, good luck & take care~~

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emi1y 發表於 11-6-2 15:18
Hey, all, sorry for my late reply.

my first kid was born in 2007. while i am OZ citizen & my hubby ...

Thanks for your information. I know why your kids got HKID & HK passport.

Birth 15/3: W:4.2kg L:52cm HC:37.5cm
Day 09: W:4.37kg L:55.5cm HC:37cm
Day 46: W:7kg L:62m HC40.5cm
Day 82: W:~9.2kg L:~66cm
Day 112: W:~10.4kg

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發表於 11-6-2 15:12 |只看該作者

Dear all mommies, thanks all your opinions. You have given me a better understanding on the baby matter.

Dear emi1y, this year going forward I will stay in Oz. And to me HKSAR passport is much important. But I am a bit confused on your case. Did both your kids born in Hong Kong or Oz? If your kids born in HK, they should deserve to get HKID(3*), right?

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emi1y both of my kids were born in OZ. As we resides in HK, we dnt get baby bonus. This is gain & lost. 發表於 11-6-3 11:03

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發表於 11-6-2 13:18 |只看該作者

Hey, all, sorry for my late reply.

my first kid was born in 2007. while i am OZ citizen & my hubby was holding TR. My first one's HKID card (3*) was granted in Nov 2007.

My younger one was born in 2010 when my hubby was holding PR. My younger was granted the HKID (3*) in Mar 2011.

From our experience, it is harder to get the HKID while my hubby is holding the PR. We are mainly residing in HK since 2006. I guess this is the main reason why my 2 kids got granted.

Puib, I would like to know where you are going to reside after the bb was born. & which passport is more important to you.

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本帖最後由 h5199 於 11-6-1 17:17 編輯

如果倆夫婦係PR, BB係澳洲出世只係有澳洲護照, 無香港護照. 相反BB係香港出世只係有香港護照, 無澳洲護照. 最好的方法係, 是但一個入左籍澳洲籍先, 然後返香港生BB, 咁就可以攞兩本護照.

To: Mrs. Kangaroo

My boy was born in Sydney.
I was a PR, holding HKID and HK passport with Chinese Nationality.

I tried to apply the HK passport in Sydney for my boy (he didn't have OZ passport at that time), but HK immigration rejected my application. If your information is right, why my application has been rejected??

If we apply the HK passport in HK, he has to apply the OZ one first in order he can fly to HK, so, shouldn't work this way?!

I can tell you by the time my baby was born, he is Aussie regardless if he is holding the OZ passport or not because I was a PR.

I've been told some of the australian born babies/toddlers have both australian and HK passports, I just don't know how it can happens. Perhaps, the lack of experience of THAT immigration officer?

你的小朋友出世時你倆夫婦有無澳洲PR status?

小朋友係外國出世有資格攞HKSAR passport o既符合以下任何一個條件:
1.) 中國籍的父或母未有PR 身份
2.) 出世時未能即時取得出生地的國籍.

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DLPapa 發表於 11-5-31 02:17
Dear all,

Surely, it eliminates much dispute when the child is born in HK, to a parent with permane ...

well, you can believe what you believe. that's all.

Birth 15/3: W:4.2kg L:52cm HC:37.5cm
Day 09: W:4.37kg L:55.5cm HC:37cm
Day 46: W:7kg L:62m HC40.5cm
Day 82: W:~9.2kg L:~66cm
Day 112: W:~10.4kg

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ngtft 發表於 11-5-31 12:53
回覆 Mrs.Kangaroo 的帖子

Mrs Kangaroo

ngtft,

I know I wont' be able to find the truth, but still want to know lor...wakakaa

Birth 15/3: W:4.2kg L:52cm HC:37.5cm
Day 09: W:4.37kg L:55.5cm HC:37cm
Day 46: W:7kg L:62m HC40.5cm
Day 82: W:~9.2kg L:~66cm
Day 112: W:~10.4kg

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puib 發表於 11-5-31 00:58
Thanks all your advices, very informative.

Here I get your consensus that the first step is to deli ...

if both of you and your c6 are PR, then baby born in HK has no oz citizenship.

baby born overseas can become oz citizen if one of the parents is citizen.

if you give birth in HK, your can the PR for your baby.

Birth 15/3: W:4.2kg L:52cm HC:37.5cm
Day 09: W:4.37kg L:55.5cm HC:37cm
Day 46: W:7kg L:62m HC40.5cm
Day 82: W:~9.2kg L:~66cm
Day 112: W:~10.4kg

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回覆 Mrs.Kangaroo 的帖子

Mrs Kangaroo

You never able to find out the truth..... because if I am the successful case to get HK passport, I won't tell you my details or how I got it if it broke the rule/law.....

by the way, I am thinking what is the importancy to have HK passport? If I go back hk for holiday, 90 days long enough for me and no visa require anyway.

Only enter to China but where I'm not really interested in. If for kids future, then once you proof that you are going to stay HK, you still able to get back your ID card and when you hve 3 starts then you can apply passport.

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puib 發表於 11-5-30 22:58
Thanks all your advices, very informative.

Here I get your consensus that the first step is to deli ...

puib

Without doing step 2, how can you do step 3? "Return to Oz"?
In step 3, without giving birth in Oz, how can you get "Oz birth cert"? I believe as long as your are PR, you can apply to add a PR VISA put onto your baby HK passport. Or when you turn Citiezen, your baby will be citizen as well.

Step 4, as long as you are not going decare to give up Chinese Nationality, you can still renew your passport. This only apply to HK people, my friend from mainland china, don't how chinese gov can found out but he didn't inform chinese gov when he return to china for visit, they collected his chinese passport....
by the way, I have my kids HK passport renew in Oz without any problem. Just pay more for the handling fee.

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本帖最後由 DLPapa 於 11-5-31 00:20 編輯

Dear all,

Surely, it eliminates much dispute when the child is born in HK, to a parent with permanent HKID or of chinese nationality (thats why all these mothers come to HK to deliver their babies), the child will get the HK residency. But even with HK residency the child may not be granted a HKSAR passport, eg if you have declared yourselves as foreign nationals. But if you haven't made such declaration, then as a HK resident of chinese descent, you will be seen as a Chinese national and no one will bother asking.
Info about residency:
http://www.gov.hk/tc/residents/i ... /verifyeligible.htm

Info about eligibility of HKSAR (=Chinese national with HK residency)
http://www.gov.hk/en/residents/i ... lityforpassport.htm

Mrs Kangaroo, believe it or not, there are many ppl who can obtain a HKSAR passport for their kids in the same situation as yours. There must be something which you have said or mentioned (eg your child is born to an Aussie father, as an Australian or without intention to live/ move back in the near future etc) from which the official is pretty sure that your child is a citizen of a foreign country, then he will not be eligible....well as far as I understood it.

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本帖最後由 puib 於 11-5-30 23:17 編輯

Thanks all your advices, very informative.

Here I get your consensus that the first step is to deliver my baby in HK. But anyone know the concrete steps next?

Should I...??

Step 2) After baby born, get the HK birth cert and apply the HKSAR passport?

Step 3) Return Oz to get the "OZ birth cert"? (Any such thing in Oz?) Any restrictions on the no. of days return?

Step 4) Few years later, when the HKSAR passport is going to expired but the kid is having dual nationality, anything special when renew the passport? Is it essential to keep renew the passport and don't terminate it, otherwise cannot re-apply the HKSAR passport?

Thanks in advance.

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發表於 11-5-30 18:45 |只看該作者

lillymarie,

I agree with you ---> 所以結論還是在香港出生好了, 若真的很想孩子有特區護照的話.

no need to guess, no need to discuss any more!

Birth 15/3: W:4.2kg L:52cm HC:37.5cm
Day 09: W:4.37kg L:55.5cm HC:37cm
Day 46: W:7kg L:62m HC40.5cm
Day 82: W:~9.2kg L:~66cm
Day 112: W:~10.4kg

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關於中國公民的資格, 有很多條件, 很複雜.
我猜想, 如果孩子的父/母, 有一人仍在香港居住, 就合資格?

所以結論還是在香港出生好了, 若真的很想孩子有特區護照的話.

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DLPapa 發表於 11-5-29 13:10
According to the HK Immigration info, your overseas born children are eligible for HK residency & a ...

According to the HK Immigration info, your overseas born children are eligible for HK residency & a HKSAR passport if (at the time of application) either you or your hubb

y are a Chinese national (holding a HKSAR passport) and the children are NOT a citizen of the oversea country- since China will not accept dual nationalities. So perhaps you do not apply for your Aussie citizenship until you have obtained your HKSAR passports for the kids.

DLPapa,

My boy was born in Sydney.
I was a PR, holding HKID and HK passport with Chinese Nationality.

I tried to apply the HK passport in Sydney for my boy (he didn't have OZ passport at that time), but HK immigration rejected my application. If your information is right, why my application has been rejected??

If we apply the HK passport in HK, he has to apply the OZ one first in order he can fly to HK, so, shouldn't work this way?!

I can tell you by the time my baby was born, he is Aussie regardless if he is holding the OZ passport or not because I was a PR.

I've been told some of the australian born babies/toddlers have both australian and HK passports, I just don't know how it can happens. Perhaps, the lack of experience of THAT immigration officer?

Birth 15/3: W:4.2kg L:52cm HC:37.5cm
Day 09: W:4.37kg L:55.5cm HC:37cm
Day 46: W:7kg L:62m HC40.5cm
Day 82: W:~9.2kg L:~66cm
Day 112: W:~10.4kg

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