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[澳洲] To Be or Not To Be - Returning HK from Australia [複製鏈接]

poopoobe

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發表於 07-6-27 19:25 |只看該作者

Re: To Be or Not To Be - Returning HK from Australia

Hi Fate,
好吸引嘅 topic, I with my husband discuss that question for a long time

when did you go back to HK?
Have you apply the visa for your children before you go back?
I also have look for the rent in HK, at Tung Chung, will you go back live in Discovery bay?
My husband is not well today, I'll tell him to read what you post, I think he will interested

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發表於 07-6-28 06:55 |只看該作者

Re: To Be or Not To Be - Returning HK from Australia

Dear HEE

Thanks for your reply.

No worries. Everyone is so pressurised these days.

Sometimes I wonder, "Globalisation" also means
"Global Depression" - when is the last time we see the sardine-packed MTR passengers have a smiling face?

Every single one of them looks terribly tired, including the school children, each carrying a school bag equal to half of their body weight, cauing long term damage to their spine.

Will keep you informed of our Final Decison in the coming Monday.

Have a Great Day

Cheers
Fate
Always trying to find time to have a Family Fun Time

Nothing is Harder than Convincing Ourselves Nothing is Hard

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Fate

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發表於 07-6-28 07:20 |只看該作者

Re: To Be or Not To Be - Returning HK from Australia

Hi Poopoobe

Thanks for your input.

Your child is so cute!!

Sometimes I wonder why we as adults seem to have lost our ability if not instinct to Smile.

Tung Chung - everytime when I mention this place, all my friends jump to the roof and say (if not shout),

"Why Tung Chung? It is the wworst place for children - the Air Pollution Problem."

Yes. I was aware of that. (Please visit www.weather.gov.hk, and go for "Air Pollution Index") But I thought (at the time) I was only thinking about having a tiny flat as a holiday flat, because the house price seems to be very attractive and the club house facilities are amusing for children!

(Please visit www.centaline.com.hk or www.midland.com.hk, search for "Caribbean Coast")

But, I subsequently discovered the Polluted Air contains high level of "Lead" coming from the Factories Chimneys in neighbouring China. And Lead, I was told, could cause serious brain damage to Children.

So, I drop Tung Chung as my choice even just for a holiday flat.

As long as one of you is a HK Permanent Resident, your child's Dependant Visa is quite straight forward, which you can apply at the Immigration Office when you return HK for good.

(Bascially I was told by my friend - it is like 1-year first, then renew for another 3 years, and then a further 3 years. By then your child has stayed in HK for 7 years and become a HK Permanent Resident themselves, and NO more visa is needed)

Please visit www.immigration.gov.hk

For rental, you could also visit www.gohome.com.hk

Will keep you informed of our Final Decision on the coming Monday.

Have a Great Day

Cheers
Fate
I have Nothing to Spare but Plenty to Share

Nothing is Harder than Convincing Ourselves Nothing is Hard

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發表於 07-6-28 11:23 |只看該作者

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發表於 07-6-28 11:28 |只看該作者

Re: To Be or Not To Be - Returning HK from Australia

Dear Fate,

其實人人都會有唔同的問題, 事情總可以解決的, 小朋友都是好容易適應的, 我像今天我媽媽說, 如果第日我返NZ, 會好唔捨阿仔, 因由佢返來好無禮貌對佢, 到而家好尊重各位長輩, 真係好大改變, 當時我真係聽到哭呀, 我諗阿仔真係無浪費呢幾年, 我的選擇都無錯, 同埋由佢初初好唔適應, 到佢好想學校有中學(因佢而家讀的學校好細, 只有小學), 等佢可以留在香港耐d(這只是我個人的想法而已)

其實你地有沒有諗吓住深井到青龍頭一帶, 我住在這裹, 好舒服, 租金都唔貴

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發表於 07-6-28 17:02 |只看該作者

Re: To Be or Not To Be - Returning HK from Australia

Dear HEE

Thanks for your continued input.

May be because I don't have a strong bonding with my Mum (I'm the Youngest - she's now 90-year-old and is in an elderly home, so my two young sons don't know/see her that often), I therefore don't have the opportunity to see my boys forming a strong bonding with my Mum too.

My wife and I made a Final Decision and we will share with others how we came to this Decison in the coming Monday.

I am very pleased that things have worked out for you and your Family after relocating to HK. As you have stated every family has different circumstances, and they therefore have to find the best way forward themselves.

Once again, thanks for sharing with me (and other mums) you Thoughts, and I sincerely hope that you child continues to be Happy and Healthy.

So, when are planning to return NZ?

Regards
Fate
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poopoobe

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發表於 07-6-28 19:29 |只看該作者

Re: To Be or Not To Be - Returning HK from Australia

Hi HEE,
我初初都諗過下深井, 不過我老公會擔心車程同車費, 來回時間等等....
係呢, 你住緊係租嘅定買架, 因為想買樓時都可以考慮下

我係响屯門長大嘅, 所以一提到附近嘅住宅區時, 真係有 d 驚架, 因為响我哋細個時要搭好耐車先可以出到市區, 但而家唔同係, 好多野都改晒

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發表於 07-6-29 10:52 |只看該作者

Re: To Be or Not To Be - Returning HK from Australia

Dear poopoobe,

係呀, 我住在深井Rhine Garden,好好住, 但因我覺得而家太多人, 搬了去豪景花園, 但樓貴都唔貴, 千多吹都是2百萬度, 租金都唔貴, 但Rhine Garden, 都800多尺, 百多萬有, 而去九龍有52x, 9.5, 去香港重方便962B, 有van仔去荃灣, 葵芳, 但只有深井有van仔去青衣(希望第時去到豪景啦), 所有屋苑有屋苑車

所以我覺得好方便, 最重要空氣好, 同小朋友有空間

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Fate

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發表於 07-7-3 19:42 |只看該作者

Dear Caring Parents

It has been a Nightmare for the last two days trying to get into this site.

For a moment I thought I was being kicked out by BK for expressing "Non Traditional Views" in my another post under "Family Finance" titled,

"The Secrets of Losing Millions."

It was beyond my control I could not explain on Monday (2 July) in more details as Promised, as to how we came to our Final Decision, which is

Stay in Australia

Although still debating whether to relocate to HK since early June, we were actually busy in making preparations to return HK - just in case such a Decision was eventually made and we had to return HK in a very short time for a School Interview.

So, my wife had been busy in sorting out which would be taken with us, which would be left behind for sell or charity; checking rental accomodation in DB; contacting DBPIS's current office at Bauhinia School through phone and E Mail; and then sent them the completed application forms, current school reports, and a cheque for processing applications etc. etc.

But still, we didn't reach a Decision until last Tuesday.
And only after talking to our HK friend, who re-assured us the recycled water in a Developed Country should be O.K. to drink. We then made a Decision to relocate to HK.

So, our speed in packing things had since then been double up!

But, in the following morning, and as usual, we re-examined our Decision again by looking at ALL Factors one last time :

Peace of Mind
Behaviours & Attitudes of Staff & Students
Behaviours & Attitudes of General Public
Air Quality
Weather
Overall Learning Environment
Certainty about Vacancy at school
Certainty about rental near school
School Environment
History of school
Class Size
School Fee
English/Teaching Standard
Overall Cost of Living
..........
..........

We then Concluded Australia is more suitable for us as a family at this momnet of time, so we have decided to STAY at this moment of our time.

At one point we told ourselves we could still live the way we live in Australia when we are in HK.

But then we realised why we had to return HK and PRETENDING living in Australia, when we could ACTUALLY living in Australia!!!

After making the Decision to STAY, we then realised we can save at least HK$170,000 A YEAR by staying in an Australian Private School!!! (Not decided at this stage which one yet, www.ccs.qld.edu.au, www.sienaprimary.qld.edu.au, www,scgs.qld.edu.au)

What a Relief - when there is NO more Uncertainty!
Can enjoy the school holiday now!

A BIG "Thank You" to vv123, carolsin, chingyu, HEE, KT-mom, poopopbe & mocha for your Valuable Inputs.

One never knows what the Future holds, and we may bump into each other one day, but for now we have to say,

"Goodbye and Take Care."

To all those Silent Reading Parents - all the best to you lot too.

Cheers
Happily Staying Fate

[ 本文章最後由 Fate 於 07-7-4 21:29 編輯 ]

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Dear Fate,

I am one of the "Silent Reading Parents" and I am proud of you to make such decision, there is no absolute right and wrong and it all depends on what is GOOD we believe to our child.

I am OZ and returning to HK before the handover, same questions have revisited and we made the decision to stay in HK at least for the entire primary school life.

Chelsea

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Fate

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發表於 07-7-23 22:25 |只看該作者

Dear Chelsea

Thanks for your feedback.

Sorry for not replying earlier as I've a Beijing Friend (and
his family) visiting us and I've to finish another post.

Since you've been in HK for the last 10 years, could I ask,

"How do you compare HK with Australia?"

Also, just curious to know if you're to move back to
Australia once your child is a Teenager?

Regards
Fate
No Perfect World, Only Better Place

原文章由 chelsea 於 07-7-20 12:44 發表
Dear Fate,

I am one of the "Silent Reading Parents" and I am proud of you to make such decision, there is no absolute right and wrong and it all depends on what is GOOD we believe to our ch ...

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發表於 07-7-24 10:23 |只看該作者

Dear Fate,

No worry, it's great to have friends from overseas to visit :)

Yes, from the handover, SARS and the roller coaster of the property market, if one has bought the property in the year 1997 will mean negative equity and to draw your belt tight to it. Air pollution and the education system also give another frustrated reason on this land.

So, it really depends of the age and reason to stay, this land gives you a better career path in terms of money reward, a good foundation of pre-school education, a dynamic lifestyle, a central hub to everywhere to the world, this is the good side I will see. The metropolitan city that has the competitive edge of the East meets West.

I have decided my kid’s high school or uni school life to be in OZ.

Chelsea

原文章由 Fate 於 07-7-23 22:25 發表
Dear Chelsea

Thanks for your feedback.

Sorry for not replying earlier as I've a Beijing Friend (and
his family) visiting us and I've to finish another post.

Since you've been in HK for ...

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發表於 07-7-28 19:44 |只看該作者

Dear Chelsea

Thanks for your comments.

I now have more time as my friend and his family just left Australia for Beijing (stopover at HK) this morning, after staying with us for the last 20 days.

It has been a Great Challenge to be a Good Parent, given all these Dramatic Events happening for the last 10 years. You have nevertheless demonstrated you'd handled the situations very well and have set a clear plan for your child.

So is my friend from Beijing.

After having his child attending a 2-week Study Tour with my 8-year-old boy at my boy's school & viewing some lovely affordable new apartments with breath-taking seaviews, my friend is now seriously considering re-locating to Australia to join us. He has also reminded us of our Goals for our children,

To be Happier, Healthier and Harmless (to others).

To us, it seems to be Easier to achieve such Goals in Australia, when the Pressure from Life, Work and School is More Reasonable here, allowing people More Time, Energy and more importantly a Better Temperment to have a Better Relationship with every other Family Members.

Unless something Dramatic happen in the coming times, I do feel we 'll be in Sunshine Coast (or Australia in genenral) for the forseeable future.

Once again, thanks for Sharing.

Fate
Be Grateful. Be Hopeful. Be Helpful.

quote]原文章由 chelsea 於 07-7-24 10:23 發表