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子爵府

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10141#
發表於 07-6-8 09:52 |只看該作者

Re: @ 老友過來傾一餐 @

Gloria,

Somebody must have read our posts on pig-corn,
and went and bought the entire basket this morning !!

Even earlier than my yanyan ! (before 9am)

So no pig-corn today and no need to wait for me after work lah.

Next time I just tel you and won't post here !!


大宅

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10142#
發表於 07-6-8 10:33 |只看該作者

Re: @ 老友過來傾一餐 @

BS,

There are many invisable buddies here mar :mrgreen: :mrgreen:





大宅

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10143#
發表於 07-6-8 11:05 |只看該作者

Re: @ 老友過來傾一餐 @

BS, CCHeng, RMM,

i would like to ask some questions related to the piano's teacher:

my son learn piano around 1 yr but as i told you before, he is still didn't learn and aware of the beat 拍子, the paino's teacher always said that she need to teach and let him 彈熟手指位, can learn the beat later. But i'm afraid 甘我兒會不會學壞師呢, 佢現在彈song都很慢, 不太似一首song甘. 甘現在只懂看音, 不理beat, 遲些我怕佢要連音及beat一起彈時, 會不理beat.
i have asked the teacher why she didn't teach him the beat, she always said my son not prastise well and not fluent of the 手指位. i would like to ask is this the case.

And yesterday, she said my son is up to Grade 1 standard and need to increase the price to Grade 1, so i ask her how to judge for the piano's standard when the kid still haven't attend any piano's exam, she said if she teach the book which is cover the content of Grade 1, then the kids is Grade 1, and so on, is this the case.

My worry is my son still don't know the beat, how he has the Grade 1 standard.
(my concept is at least the kid need to know all the sysllbus cover at Grade 1, although he is not attent the exam yet).

My second worry is when she ask me to buy the book for Grade 2 later, then i need to paid for Grade 2's teacher fee. is it the case?
or i need to make sure that my son is up to Grade 2 standard, then i paid for Grade 2's fee?


?-(


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10144#
發表於 07-6-8 11:57 |只看該作者

Re: @ 老友過來傾一餐 @

LSW,

1. piano teacher or private teacher, your place or her place or piano studio ? $$ ?
2. her quali and where did you find this teacher ?
3. absolutely NO rhythm / clapping / notes ?
4. does she write the abcde on the notes and your son reads abcde / read the notes from the score ?
5. did not even start to teach him to read the beat 4拍2拍1拍半拍 or taught already but did not emphasize the use / usefulness / meaning / importance of 數拍子 ?
6. any exercise book, in addition to 琴書, for teaching abcdefg notes and beat and some basic theory 樂理 ? (eg how to read how many notes / 拍子in a bar, how to write / draw the bass clef and treble clef ?)

You can get some idea of $$ for each grade from TL's website. Usually need to cover syllabus of 1 grade before going to the next if did not take exam.
Piglet's piano teacher doesn't +$ like that. In fact she doesn't +$ at all !! Once a year I take a look at TL's rates and auto increase a little for her ja. Piglet hasn't taken any exams either.

My intuition is : you had better find somebody else.

Piglet also claims he doesn't like to count the beat 數拍子, but his piano teacher still him for not counting, and usually he can follow if I insist when he practices. Also, he is learning western percussion (i.e. drum pad now) at school, paid $ ECA, which means he MUST 數拍子 for this ==> improve a little and pay more attention (hopefully) when he plays the piano.


大宅

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10145#
發表於 07-6-8 12:30 |只看該作者

Re: @ 老友過來傾一餐 @

LSW,

totally agree with Bluestar.數拍子 should definitely be included in day-to-day piano practising & teaching.

Bluestar 寫道:
LSW,

1. piano teacher or private teacher, your place or her place or piano studio ? $$ ?
2. her quali and where did you find this teacher ?
3. absolutely NO rhythm / clapping / notes ?
4. does she write the abcde on the notes and your son reads abcde / read the notes from the score ?
5. did not even start to teach him to read the beat 4拍2拍1拍半拍 or taught already but did not emphasize the use / usefulness / meaning / importance of 數拍子 ?
6. any exercise book, in addition to 琴書, for teaching abcdefg notes and beat and some basic theory 樂理 ? (eg how to read how many notes / 拍子in a bar, how to write / draw the bass clef and treble clef ?)

You can get some idea of $$ for each grade from TL's website. Usually need to cover syllabus of 1 grade before going to the next if did not take exam.
Piglet's piano teacher doesn't +$ like that. In fact she doesn't +$ at all !! Once a year I take a look at TL's rates and auto increase a little for her ja. Piglet hasn't taken any exams either.

My inituition is : you had better find somebody else.

Piglet also claims he doesn't like to count the beat 數拍子, but his piano teacher still him for not counting, and usually he can follow if I insist when he practices. Also, he is learning western percussion (i.e. drum pad now) at school, paid $ ECA, which means he MUST 數拍子 for this ==> improve a little and pay more attention (hopefully) when he plays the piano.


大宅

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10146#
發表於 07-6-8 12:45 |只看該作者

Re: @ 老友過來傾一餐 @

i have asked Ming2 and got her reply. Do those think i need to change the piano's teacher.


ming2,

謝謝你答覆. 我都很煩.


你小朋友幾多歲呀??平時練琴情況係點呀??...

-----佢現在快7yrs, 由6yrs開始學,



我個人認為,幾多歲開始學琴都好, 一開始學彈鋼琴就應該學埋數拍子,等佢知道/亦養成一個習慣,彈琴/音樂係除左音之外仲要顧埋個拍子先正確.....所以我本身係唔認同有d人話"先彈左音,遲d再學數拍子"呢種講法...

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等佢知道/亦養成一個習慣,彈琴/音樂係除左音之外仲要顧埋個拍子先正確.....
--是啦, 我就是擔心此點, 佢現在已學轉手指位/音等, 因我不懂的. 我就是怕佢由開始學都不理怕子, 遲些要連繫起來不習慣. 老師就是說佢指法不熟, 要遲些先增加拍子.

其實我兒在學彈琴上是很慢的, 老師都講過, 因佢不是常常練琴, 每星期練0.5hr, 後來老師見佢不熟, 因我不懂, 佢自己練, 我都不知對不對, 就叫佢一些佢話有8級的中學生幫佢練琴, 練完就老師同我兒上課.合共1小時, 練琴就只收租房的錢. 唉, 我都不知我兒是否喜歡學,叫佢不如不學, 佢話想學, 但叫佢練琴, 就不喜歡.

我想佢學, 是訓練佢頭腦及手部同用的零活度, 所以同老師講不想佢太快, 慢都不緊要, 培養佢有興趣, 反而老師說不想佢甘慢, 佢會教得悶bor. 現在我想會不會是如慢佢不到高級些, 增加不到學費呢.

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所以我本身係唔認同有d人話"先彈左音,遲d再學數拍子"呢種講法...

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甘是否有其他老師真是用此法甘教呢.

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但係我覺得如果真係如你所講,連拍子都未數得掂,咁又冇可能升一級喎?!


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甘我應該換老師, 定要求佢教數拍子一起彈. 如要求佢, 我怕好似影響佢自己的教學方法. 但已1年, 都不教我兒連拍子彈, 我都不知怎麼說..........


大宅

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10147#
發表於 07-6-8 12:49 |只看該作者

Re: @ 老友過來傾一餐 @

BS,

pls pm me how much is your piano's teacher for Grade 1.

i don't have paino bor, so we need to go to the teacher's place la.


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10148#
發表於 07-6-8 13:56 |只看該作者

Re: @ 老友過來傾一餐 @

R's teacher has the same view as ming2. Beat/Rythmn should be part of the song, althou kid may not play it well, but need to practice too. Seems boys don't like counting, so as R, unless he can play the note well, I will need him to count in front of me (or for some beats).

Also, the teacher said practicing should be made everyday like a habit such as eating, but no need to be too long, let says 15mins at the very early stage. But this is the struggle point for me too. R knows he need to practice, but sometimes he's unwilling to, and isn't concentrate. Anyway, R plays the piano everyday ga.

As for the fee, the charging is same as R's teacher.
She will ask for higher level fee when R's using that standards' books or after he pass the exam.

So, for your teacher, I think her problems is the method of teaching. Maybe you need to think about it.

BTW, if you have time, call me then.



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10149#
發表於 07-6-8 14:01 |只看該作者

Re: @ 老友過來傾一餐 @

LSW,

you found the right one to ask....Ming2 is an v experienced teacher.

At the start of learning piano, we should take care of all aspects in terms of notes recognition, sight reading, aural training, finger movement, beat/rythmn, posture.

It's better for you to look for another qualified teacher


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10150#
發表於 07-6-8 15:15 |只看該作者

Re: @ 老友過來傾一餐 @

LSW,

If Ramomo who is sooooo good tempered and expert in this also says you should find another one, you had better listen to her loh.


男爵府

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10151#
發表於 07-6-8 15:25 |只看該作者

Re: @ 老友過來傾一餐 @

RMM & LSW

Is Ming2 still accepting new pupil? I wish to let bee learn piano from a good teacher too. Mine(my neighbour) is too stern scaring bee. I need a nice & patient lady. We have just finished TL's music wonderland.
Buzz.. Buzzz... Buzzing Bee Let kids read more 讓孩子多閱讀! CLICK HERE to find bookstores 去哪裡找書?? Mainland Book Indx A Mainland Book Indx B *PART 1 , PART 2* *星加坡童書收獲*由一名可笑、瘋狂、自大無比和幼稚到極名作家寫的公開信 我的回应-->P. 223 of HERE Steps to Post Image 1. Right click on the image you want to copy 2. Choose 內容 3. If the url shown in the 內容 pop-up menu is ended with 'jpg' or 'gif' (maybe other image formats will do too), it is an image url. 4. Copy the url 5. click 'IMG' of BK message menu bar, paste the url into the pop-up box 6. click 'ENTER' Then the image will be shown in your message.


男爵府

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10152#
發表於 07-6-8 15:26 |只看該作者

Re: @ 老友過來傾一餐 @

RMM

pl check pms on STAR.. : )
Buzz.. Buzzz... Buzzing Bee Let kids read more 讓孩子多閱讀! CLICK HERE to find bookstores 去哪裡找書?? Mainland Book Indx A Mainland Book Indx B *PART 1 , PART 2* *星加坡童書收獲*由一名可笑、瘋狂、自大無比和幼稚到極名作家寫的公開信 我的回应-->P. 223 of HERE Steps to Post Image 1. Right click on the image you want to copy 2. Choose 內容 3. If the url shown in the 內容 pop-up menu is ended with 'jpg' or 'gif' (maybe other image formats will do too), it is an image url. 4. Copy the url 5. click 'IMG' of BK message menu bar, paste the url into the pop-up box 6. click 'ENTER' Then the image will be shown in your message.


大宅

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10153#
發表於 07-6-8 15:28 |只看該作者

Re: @ 老友過來傾一餐 @

Bluestar,

I'm not the expert as compared with Ming2... and I just shared my opinion as what I have come across from my learning experience in the past and how my girl is learning at JMC & JXC currently.

btw, why don't you know that I'm sooooooo good tempered

Gloriachung,

pls check pm
Bluestar 寫道:
LSW,

If Ramomo who is sooooo good tempered and expert in this also says you should find another one, you had better listen to her loh.


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10154#
發表於 07-6-8 15:39 |只看該作者

Re: @ 老友過來傾一餐 @

RMM,

From your 言行舉止


大宅

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10155#
發表於 07-6-8 15:47 |只看該作者

Re: @ 老友過來傾一餐 @

Bluestar,

that's the reason I highly recommend parents to let kid learn musical instruments.... the temper will be sooooooo good
Bluestar 寫道:
RMM,

From your 言行舉止


大宅

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10156#
發表於 07-6-8 15:52 |只看該作者

Re: @ 老友過來傾一餐 @

BS,RMM,CCheng,

Tks for all your advise.

May be i need to play action for changing teacher. i just think about and queries at the past and after all your opinions, may be this is the big problem later on.

RMM,

are you a paino teacher? would you pm me your teaching fee as well. Are you living at HK side, if yes, then it is a big problem?

GC,

i think Ming2 still accept new kids as she just pm me her charges.


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10157#
發表於 07-6-8 15:52 |只看該作者

Re: @ 老友過來傾一餐 @

Ramomo,

咁我米係反面教材 ?
Piglet too, I fear !


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10158#
發表於 07-6-8 16:07 |只看該作者

Re: @ 老友過來傾一餐 @

LSW,

Would u pls PM me ming2's charge for ref la.

Tks!


RMM/blue*,

As I didn't learn any musical instrument besides guitar, no wonder my temper....


大宅

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10159#
發表於 07-6-8 16:21 |只看該作者

Re: @ 老友過來傾一餐 @

:-( :-(


same as me.

i didn't learn any related to musical. so i'm now so baddddd temper and need to seek for advise for everythings.


男爵府

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10160#
發表於 07-6-8 17:23 |只看該作者

Re: @ 老友過來傾一餐 @

I never learn any and was not interested at all, then that means I should start learning it

Ramomo 寫道:
Bluestar,

that's the reason I highly recommend parents to let kid learn musical instruments.... the temper will be sooooooo good
[quote]
Bluestar 寫道:
RMM,

From your 言行舉止
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