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洋房

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發表於 04-6-10 14:06 |只看該作者

點樣話比賓賓聽, 完約唔續佢好?

呢個賓係我自己請, 唔係由僱傭公司幫手既, 佢要幫手湊初生bb, 湊bb都尚可接受, 最令我不滿... 我同bb去街, 叫佢做大清潔, 佢又黑面, 叫佢果樣果樣佢又諸多藉口, 唉! 我已經容忍差不多兩年, 好慘....我要換人...所以我唔知幾時至適合通知佢唔駛做, 我地一家三口, 兩公婆返工, 得佢同bb響屋企, 所以要好小心唔比佢知我地有呢個打算, 佢working visa 到期日11 Dec 04, 比番14天兩年假 + 2天休息日假, 是否應該在25 Nov 04? 叫佢執包袱 比埋機票走人, 機票我應該寫幾多號比佢走呢? 至於未來數個月賓賓會問我同佢續約既野, 我應該點耍佢呢? 點應變?
幫下忙比d頭緒我啦! 謝!!!


男爵府

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發表於 04-6-10 16:21 |只看該作者

Re: 點樣話比賓賓聽, 完約唔續佢好?

我同你一樣.......自己請工人.........已續左一次約........因為係續約後.......佢既表現有所改變及曾被我照肺3次.........雖有改善........佢本質唔壞........但唔想再冒險再續兼要比皮幾野長期服務金.........明年四月尾到期........而家都諗你同一個問題.

有無媽咪可以比下意見呀.........想係和平氣氛下"分手".



複式洋房

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發表於 04-6-10 17:41 |只看該作者

Re: 點樣話比賓賓聽, 完約唔續佢好?

Listen listen to me. If your maid is still acceptable, do not, do not get a new one. In brief,

My first maid (Ms. X) works for me for four years. Due to some reasons - not just because of the long services fee, we decided to get a new one.

The new one (Ms. Y) came, she...
- do not know how to cook. You cannot imagine that she want to use a knief to break an egg, did not have sufficient force to open a can with a can opener.
I taught her, she always forgot. Cook the food without wash (e.g. veg).
- she pretended very hardworking, but just in front of us.
- more important is that she cannot take care of my four years old son. We need to do all the work ourselves
- she got a university degree, but her english is very poor. She is not able to listen to the MTR announment. Her common sense is low. One day, when there was something wrong with the MTR, people are running out of the station. She still tried to go into the station - I was with her and asked her if she felt something wrong and what did the announment said. She cannot answer.
- more important is that she does not follow our instruction strictly. Home safety is very poor. Knief and hot iron is easily accessible by my son... Finally, my son got hurt seriously and went into hospital.
- we used up all our vacation for this maid.
- and a lot more.

Finally, we asked our previous maid to come back and work for us...

We have used up our energy, vacation and paid an extra, around HK$20,000 to restore into the original position.

The extra amount paid includes,
- the holiday payment for Ms. X
- airticket for Ms. X to go back $1,050
- some money for Ms. X for her work $2,000
- agency fee for Ms. Y $1,000
- medical fee for Ms. Y Y$ 500
- one month pay to Ms. Y $3,270
- ticket for Ms. Y $1,400 (original ...??? lulu...)
- Direct hire fee ~$2,500
- ticket for Ms. X to come back, $1,000
- other misc expenses increased, $2,000
- my son medical fee, $4,000
- she allow my son to be alone in the room, finally break the home appliance, break the toilet - you cannot image, $3,500

If you do not happy with the maid, just because she always talking on the phone, has a boy friend, not tutoring your kid... but still honest, good to your son... At least, you have someone you can trust. When you are away from home, you feel that your kid is safe. He is being taken care of. With Mrs. Y, I cannot even went out with my second half for a firm or etc.

If you still want to send you maid away, let me know. I let you know how I did before.


民房

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發表於 04-6-10 17:50 |只看該作者

Re: 點樣話比賓賓聽, 完約唔續佢好?

千祈唔有以為可以有「和平分手」,更唔主張比通知期,除非你真係非常非常信佢,(但係如果佢咁好你就唔使炒佢啦!)提議先做好所有準備,包括搵定工人、訂定機票,然後在到期前一個月突然叫佢即走,機票可訂一星期後。

記得叫佢簽收所有o野!


複式洋房

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發表於 04-6-10 18:03 |只看該作者

Re: 點樣話比賓賓聽, 完約唔續佢好?

Do not buy the fixed date ticket. The maid is required to report to Immigration within 14 days after the termination. She can apply to Immigration for an extension of stay to look for new employer. If you buy the fixed date ticket, you will need to pay for the penalty of changing the date, or the cost of a new ticket if she does not accept your ticket.

Always remember to change the door lock, and inform your building management office, the kid's school if you fire a maid.


洋房

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發表於 04-6-11 10:23 |只看該作者

Re: 點樣話比賓賓聽, 完約唔續佢好?

SingMamei & Ricka,

多謝你地寶貴意見, 唯有見步行步啦!


大宅

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發表於 04-6-11 10:43 |只看該作者

Re: 點樣話比賓賓聽, 完約唔續佢好?

I also confront the same scenario that my maid's contract will be finished in end Aug. I was so stupid to tell her that I may extend her contract.

However, I would like to change my mind now as she is always black face to us no matter my daughter asked her for help or I asked her to do anything. She is such a person who doesn't like to be instructed.

Though she can help me a lot to do the household chores and manage the house well without my request, it still made me hard feeling if someone is always black face and was so reluctant to play/tutor my kid and ignore my mother.

If you were me, what will you do? Continue the contract or terminate it? Besides, how will you tell her to cut the salary from $3,670 to $3,270. If so, I think she would find her way to get the $400 back.


複式洋房

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發表於 04-6-11 10:56 |只看該作者

Re: 點樣話比賓賓聽, 完約唔續佢好?

I will suggest you to talk to your maid.

1) Honestly tell her that you observed her bad face. You may re-consider renewal of her contract.

2) Imagine that if she gone, and you tried one or two more other maid getting worse. What will you do ?

3) Can she be trust ? Imagine you get a new one but cannot trust. Lazy, steel money and etc. How much will you pay (time, effort, money) to restore the current acceptable position ?

4) If nothing can be worse, then change her.

5) Regarding the $400 dollars. Tell the maid that if we are satified, we will renew it at $3,270 Any problem ? Do you think she will not get $400 if you pay her another $400 ?





子爵府

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發表於 04-6-11 10:58 |只看該作者

Re: 點樣話比賓賓聽, 完約唔續佢好?

我覺得買FIXED DATE TICKET好D喎,因為我如要FIRE佢,當然要她立即走,而且她沒有理由不接受,因為CONTRACT寫明給她機票,冇話要幾時幾日,而且雖然你已FIRE佢,但她一天未走,一天你也要對她的行為負責,就算她要改機票日期,你可以對她說明是不可改,如要改就自己PAY FOR THE PENALTY


複式洋房

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發表於 04-6-11 11:11 |只看該作者

Re: 點樣話比賓賓聽, 完約唔續佢好?

You are wrong. You can check with the immigration and the law. Many maid know the law better than you. And the thing is that, if you fire her, the relationship is bad already. How can you expect them to accept a fixed date ticket from you. They know their right - even if my new maid who just came for one month (never in HK before), she does not accept a fixed date ticket when I terminate her.

The two questions that she asked when we said we terminate her... 1) is it a clean dismissal, 2) is it an open ticket ?



男爵府

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發表於 04-6-11 12:19 |只看該作者

Re: 點樣話比賓賓聽, 完約唔續佢好?

Ricka,

睇完你既經歷........對換工人有d猶疑..........因為佢又唔係真係太差.......仲係肯服從........好照顧仔仔........又教得仔仔好好禮貌........又識買"食送"........買完野........一定列晒價錢........又慳家.........永無浪費.........心地善良.......分附佢做既野.......都做到.........幾醒水........知自己身份.......永無失禮.......都幾有家教........可能佢同佢亞媽都係教徒呱.

之前.........真係人見人贊..........我地都好錫佢........對佢好好........但上次續約後.......就變得好遊魂........問佢咩事........佢又話無事.........傾左2次後.........改善唔大........就同佢亞媽傾........佢亞媽係我個朋友既工人.........咁佢亞媽話佢屋企有事發生........影響左佢.........係佢今年既3月尾回家前向我問過要借$18,000.........我當然無借喇.........咁........返黎後........暫時都表現得幾滿意.........我只係擔心再續約後........佢會唔會又黎過.........到時我又要比長期服務金.........好唔抵.

但我同其他同學傾開工人問題........又發覺佢己算唔錯........如果係你........你會點決定呀.........比d意見我呀!........唔該晒.


水晶宮

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發表於 04-6-11 12:30 |只看該作者

Re: 點樣話比賓賓聽, 完約唔續佢好?

我同HoWangMami的諗法差唔多wor. 如果我同個工人係不歡而散, 要送走個工人, 我都會出張fixed date的機票比佢. 比番幾日時間佢o係香港攪手續或其他o 野. 我可以話比immigration 知, 我已買了幾時幾月的機票送佢走, discharge o左我o既obligation, 而且, 冇條例話我要就個工人的schedule, 比個工人揀邊一日飛返祖家. 個工人要改機票的話, additional charge佢自己比.

HoWangMami 寫道:
我覺得買FIXED DATE TICKET好D喎,因為我如要FIRE佢,當然要她立即走,而且她沒有理由不接受,因為CONTRACT寫明給她機票,冇話要幾時幾日,而且雖然你已FIRE佢,但她一天未走,一天你也要對她的行為負責,就算她要改機票日期,你可以對她說明是不可改,如要改就自己PAY FOR THE PENALTY

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